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Old 03-12-2019, 12:43 PM
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Preamble. I have a new boat with approx. 80 hours on it. A Scout 275 Dorado. As I have done with previous boats I keep it clean, maintained, and safe to operate. When my wife and I first moved to South Carolina some years ago the first thing we did was book some time with a licensed Sea Captain to get some instruction and gain some knowledge of boating on salt water. All of our previous experience was in fresh water in Michigan and the midwest. Subsequent to this I went ahead and took the classes to get my 6pack license. While this does not make me a qualified Captain it does give me more confidence when I am out on the water. About a year ago we moved to Florida.

Yesterdays event. My wife and I were tied up at a dock in Sarasota at Marina Jack having a late lunch. We were watching a guy trying to get his boat to the fuel dock for refueling. It looked like a rental. It was a Scout about 16' in length. He was having a hell of a time getting there. He finally made it and got his fuel. When he tried to leave the dock everything went south in a hurry. He wound up with his boat at a 90degree angle to the fuel dock with his engine pointed at the fuel dock. His bow was pointed straight at my boat on the opposite dock, probably about 50' in distance. He began working the throttle back and forth from forward to reverse in ever increasing amounts to try and get the boat pointed in the right direction. I watched in horror as he jammed the throttle forward and rammed the bow straight into the side of my boat. I was sick. I couldn't believe it. Turns out the boat was a rental. He had never driven a boat in his life. We eventually wound up talking to the local police and the Coast Guard. They did a report and the guy was very apologetic and said that he would pay for repairs. I don't think it cracked the fiberglass, just gouged up the gel coat and scuffed it up in a couple of places.

I am still amazed that someone with absolutely no experience is allowed to rent a boat and head out on the ICW. He put his entire family at risk as well as the lives of the other boaters that he encountered. I see guys like this on the ICW every time I go out but this is the first time I had any direct interaction with one. It was dangerously irresponsible on his part. I just don't understand why someone would even try it. He's lucky that no one got hurt.

ok Rant over. Thanks for listening.

Thought that I would give an update to this story. I contacted my Scout Dealer, Viage, and asked them to provide a quote to repair my boat. They did. $650 I called the guy that hit my boat on the number that he provided to me. Wrong number. I called the Coast Guard officer that took the report. He had a different number. I called the guy again and was able to connect. I told him the cost and he said that he would contact the dealer directly and give him a charge card number. The dealer showed up yesterday and repaired my boat. They did a good job, I am happy with the result. The dealer said that the bill has been paid. So, overall a fairly happy ending. Thanks for all your comments and be safe out there.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:50 PM
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....other than that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln? Seriously that sucks having to watch that unfold.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:52 PM
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It's not just rentals, you can buy a boat and use it 2 times a year, thus having little experience with your boat and different conditions nature can throw your way. I haven't damaged anyone's boat, but I'm amazed that even after 35 years of boating almost every weekend, I still can find myself in challenging situations with very little room for error. I realize that not everyone has a lot of experience but some of the stuff you witness people do around here is mindblowing (cruise right through no wake zones, accidentally put the throttles down way too hard at the dock, not understand the steering limitations of your boat in tight quarters, etc.)
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:59 PM
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Yup. I know what you mean. I learn something new every time I go out. After we finished with the police report my wife and I left and headed back up to our dock on the Manatee river. We encountered some very dense fog when we got close to Tampa Bay. It persisted well up the Manatee river as well. First time I ever had to navigate in those conditions. We made it ok but it was a little hairy for me. I don't have radar. I knew I could follow the bread crumbs on my GPS. I had to blow up the scale a bunch to make sure that I stayed in the channel. I was more worried about some other boat not having the sense to slow down and make sure that their running lights were on. We made it home without further incidents.
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Sad to hear. The only good thing about this episode is that no one was hurt. I'd be like you, sick that my pride and joy was now damaged due to some moron who had no business being behind the wheel of a boat. Sadly, it is not just rental operators. A large percentage of operators on the water on any given weekend have no experience, knowledge, or even common sense. When I'm at the helm, my senses are always at their highest level at all times. Unfortunately, it would not have done you any good, as you were tied up, but I won't even take my big boat to a local waterfront eatery any more due to this type of situation. It is rare that I do take our Whaler, but even when I take my wife to the local waterfront pub, I am always on alert and keep the boat in view at all times. I tied up to the local waterfront restaurant last fall, (I won't even think of going during the summer), after waiting for about 15-20 minutes for a spot to open. While tying up the 17FT Whaler, another boater approached the dock and asked if they could raft alongside, tie up to the Whaler, and trudge through my boat to go to the restaurant. I said, "nope" and walked away. Heard a lot of grumbling, but frankly, I did not give a sh*$.
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Sounds like a #qualifiedcaptain
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Upshot View Post
Preamble. I have a new boat with approx. 80 hours on it. A Scout 275 Dorado. As I have done with previous boats I keep it clean, maintained, and safe to operate. When my wife and I first moved to South Carolina some years ago the first thing we did was book some time with a licensed Sea Captain to get some instruction and gain some knowledge of boating on salt water. All of our previous experience was in fresh water in Michigan and the midwest. Subsequent to this I went ahead and took the classes to get my 6pack license. While this does not make me a qualified Captain it does give me more confidence when I am out on the water. About a year ago we moved to Florida.

Yesterdays event. My wife and I were tied up at a dock in Sarasota at Marina Jack having a late lunch. We were watching a guy trying to get his boat to the fuel dock for refueling. It looked like a rental. It was a Scout about 16' in length. He was having a hell of a time getting there. He finally made it and got his fuel. When he tried to leave the dock everything went south in a hurry. He wound up with his boat at a 90degree angle to the fuel dock with his engine pointed at the fuel dock. His bow was pointed straight at my boat on the opposite dock, probably about 50' in distance. He began working the throttle back and forth from forward to reverse in ever increasing amounts to try and get the boat pointed in the right direction. I watched in horror as he jammed the throttle forward and rammed the bow straight into the side of my boat. I was sick. I couldn't believe it. Turns out the boat was a rental. He had never driven a boat in his life. We eventually wound up talking to the local police and the Coast Guard. They did a report and the guy was very apologetic and said that he would pay for repairs. I don't think it cracked the fiberglass, just gouged up the gel coat and scuffed it up in a couple of places.

I am still amazed that someone with absolutely no experience is allowed to rent a boat and head out on the ICW. He put his entire family at risk as well as the lives of the other boaters that he encountered. I see guys like this on the ICW every time I go out but this is the first time I had any direct interaction with one. It was dangerously irresponsible on his part. I just don't understand why someone would even try it. He's lucky that no one got hurt.

ok Rant over. Thanks for listening.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:05 PM
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It's mind numbing that anyone with the money can buy a 30' boat, put it the water and use it in the busiest port in FL.
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Sorry, I tried to attach pics but was not able to. I'll try again.
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Two mentions and no pic?
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Sorry, I tried to attach pics but was not able to. I'll try again.
I think he is referring to no wife pics haha...
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:10 PM
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Sorry. A little slow on the uptake there.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:14 PM
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You can’t get behind the wheel of a car on public roads without a permit and a licensed driver with you, but in a boat it seems it is a whole different ball game. The other thing that novice boaters don’t understand it a boat doesn’t handle or steer anything like a car.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:19 PM
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Harbor I am at had a PWC Rental Business. One afternoon all LEO's and Harbormaster craft raced to a spot outside the Breakwater. Two PWCs had collided. One had been standing still while the other one T Boned it....... Passenger on the stopped craft was recovered about 30 minutes later and you guessed it didn't make it. Operator of the speeding craft said he was just trying to get close to his friends but when he backed off the throttle the PWC didn't respond the way he thought it would. 1st time operator with 20 minutes of briefing......go figure
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:23 PM
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You need a license to drive a car or fly a plane, but not to drive a boat or have a baby. Sorry for your PTSD. Can't cure stupid, so he will inflict his pain on somebody else in the future for sure.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:27 PM
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It’s simply amazing seemingly very capable people on shore turn into complete imbeciles on the water.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:33 PM
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Inexperienced operators FLOOD this area (Destin) every year during the summer. I dread being within 500 feet of any of them.
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Originally Posted by Rolltack View Post
Harbor I am at had a PWC Rental Business. One afternoon all LEO's and Harbormaster craft raced to a spot outside the Breakwater. Two PWCs had collided. One had been standing still while the other one T Boned it....... Passenger on the stopped craft was recovered about 30 minutes later and you guessed it didn't make it. Operator of the speeding craft said he was just trying to get close to his friends but when he backed off the throttle the PWC didn't respond the way he thought it would. 1st time operator with 20 minutes of briefing......go figure
I too think that jet skis are the biggest threat to boater safety on the water.
Give someone with zero experience with the boat, much less know rules of navigation, a 65-70 mph missle that handles like crap when there's no throttle.
Both on their own jet skis, A friends daughter ran over one of her friends breaking her pelvis. If my friend hadn't had an umbrella insurance policy, he would have likely lost who knows what.
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Old 03-12-2019, 04:11 PM
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Agree with you on the lack of experience of a lot of boaters. Just got a new boat and was on the Intercostal south of Venice. My son was with me down from Mich. The traffic was so bad I thought I was back on the Detroit River. You have to expect this as the car drivers in FL are absolutely incompetent. That's why I sold my bike and bought a boat. Good luck and hope to see around.
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Old 03-12-2019, 04:43 PM
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I'm not so sure about all the assurances given here about people who drive on land. Next time you are stopped at a red light take a look at the person driving the car next to you. That'll teach you.
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I’m sorry for the damage to your boat. Super frustrating. You should see Miami. I’ve almost been crushed passing through a bridge by a 140’ yacht who entered after me and was diagonal going through. I’ve committed to never again boating on Memorial Day, Labor Day and July 4th because of the drunken morons on the water. Here sports,movie stars, rappers buy $1,000,000+ boats with no experience at all and go blasting down the waterways with no regard for anyone. There really should be some required licensing. BTW now that you are a 6pak captain I bet you know how many lights a barge has at night!
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