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Old 03-12-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullpt View Post
Its simply amazing seemingly very capable people on shore turn into complete imbeciles on the water.
Disagree. Usually if they're imbeciles on the water, they're the same behind the wheel. I get the sense that certain individuals (I've known a few) that reach a level of status or wealth feel they can do as they please. Their only concern is for themselves, not others. They seem to say "I'm rich, I got a big boat. Get the hell out of my way". Some of the best and courteous boat drivers I know are your typical Joe & Mary six pack.
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Old 03-12-2019, 04:57 PM
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I would have stayed in South Carolina.
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:10 PM
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I would have stayed in South Carolina.
What makes you think theyre any better there? My boat was hit twice in Charleston. Both times at the same Marina.
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:22 PM
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While sailing my little sloop, I was almost rammed by a huge yacht on the wrong side of the channel which did NOT yield the right-of-way. I dodged the boat and shouted obscenities at the helmsman to no avail. It kept going upriver. I tracked down the boat in the downtown Tarpon Springs dock area and gave the owner an earful. He was very apologetic and offered to pay for any damage (was none). We shook hands and parted.

Three weeks later there was an article in the local newspaper about him being a major drug smuggler and busted with one of the largest hauls in west coast Florida history the day before. I actually believe he would have been in favor of boat operator licensing.
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:10 PM
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Man I feel your pain, we lived in the myrtle beach area for a few years and had to deal with boat rentals and worse rental jet skis....can’t tell you how many times they have buzzed dangerously close or jumped out in front....made me give up weekend boating.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:08 PM
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Oooohh the tragedies of being an empowered white man in this cruel luxury world !!!
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Old 03-13-2019, 02:40 AM
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Two mentions and no pic?

Stupid rule. What is your motivation for pix of other men's wives????
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Old 03-13-2019, 02:46 AM
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Hello, I used to be a teacher for boat licenses in Europe, the UK for example does not mandate that you need to have a license for recreational, Spain does for example, however try insuring a valuable boat with no license! I believe a minimum qualification should be mandatory, a few insurance companies are refusing cover unless a minimum course is taken, I found the best clients were the wives, husband may or may not have a license and she is fed up of the bickering so gets her license. A lot of places in Europe will not charter out boats with no captain without someone on board who is qualified. I admit having a license dosent replace common sense or experience, but it should teach the basics.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty_81 View Post
Inexperienced operators FLOOD this area (Destin) every year during the summer. I dread being within 500 feet of any of them.
Why are you afraid of sunburned drunks in rented pontoon boats?? Seriously, these guys drive us all crazy! Going in and out of the harbor, you need your head on a swivel, they blow through the no wake zones, especially the PWCs! Stop and start in the narrowest part of Noriega point!
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:16 AM
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While sailing my little sloop, I was almost rammed by a huge yacht on the wrong side of the channel which did NOT yield the right-of-way. I dodged the boat and shouted obscenities at the helmsman to no avail. It kept going upriver. I tracked down the boat in the downtown Tarpon Springs dock area and gave the owner an earful. He was very apologetic and offered to pay for any damage (was none). We shook hands and parted.

Three weeks later there was an article in the local newspaper about him being a major drug smuggler and busted with one of the largest hauls in west coast Florida history the day before. I actually believe he would have been in favor of boat operator licensing.
You may have dodged a bullet, literally!!
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Smitty_81 View Post
Inexperienced operators FLOOD this area (Destin) every year during the summer. I dread being within 500 feet of any of them.
^^^^^ This ... Smitty is right on... Took my boat to Destin last June... Went to Crab Island - rental pontoon roars up next to me, drops anchor, and literally fails to realize his quiet 4 stroke motor is still in gear. Motor is slightly turned so it's making it way around, I tell the guy his motor is still on - and he tells me it's just the current and the motor is off ......... He finally realizes it is indeed on and in gear, but not before he's charging towards my boat --- luckily i have a 10 ft - boat hook and was able to keep him off me.....
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:51 AM
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I work on the water and have done so for the past 20+ years. What you speak of hasn't changed since I've been around and I suspect it won't anytime soon.

It's unfortunate. There should be some type of minimum license required for boat operators. For a private pilots license (aircraft), the minimum is 40 hours of flight time (with an instructor), then a check ride. The boating industry should follow a similar model. It may push some people away, but maybe those are the people you want to push away???

The biggest problems I see are not necessarily boat handling issues. Although, I know they exist. From my point of view, most inexperienced boaters have a problem with situational awareness. That would include knowledge of their surrounding area, rules of the road and weather interpretation. You would think with the advent of GPS chartplotters, the problem would lessen to a certain extent, but I haven't noticed that.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by J2345 View Post
I work on the water and have done so for the past 20+ years. What you speak of hasn't changed since I've been around and I suspect it won't anytime soon.

It's unfortunate. There should be some type of minimum license required for boat operators. For a private pilots license (aircraft), the minimum is 40 hours of flight time (with an instructor), then a check ride. The boating industry should follow a similar model. It may push some people away, but maybe those are the people you want to push away???

The biggest problems I see are not necessarily boat handling issues. Although, I know they exist. From my point of view, most inexperienced boaters have a problem with situational awareness. That would include knowledge of their surrounding area, rules of the road and weather interpretation. You would think with the advent of GPS chartplotters, the problem would lessen to a certain extent, but I haven't noticed that.
I totally agree with what you're saying but you're wrong about the pilot part. I am one. It takes on average 40 hours of flight time to get ones private license, but thats not a requirement. Most people solo after 20 hours or so, and then ride with instructors here and there afterwords to sharpen their skills. The 40 hours time is a lot of book work, navigation training, etc. Flying planes is pretty easy compared to the book work. I used to fly out of a non-towered airport with a training school. You want to talk about scary?
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:58 AM
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Marina Jacks has nice docks and good cocktails, so you have that going for you. Sorry your boat got hit, that always sucks.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pod View Post
Agree with you on the lack of experience of a lot of boaters. Just got a new boat and was on the Intercostal south of Venice. My son was with me down from Mich. The traffic was so bad I thought I was back on the Detroit River. You have to expect this as the car drivers in FL are absolutely incompetent. That's why I sold my bike and bought a boat. Good luck and hope to see around.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:02 AM
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post
I totally agree with what you're saying but you're wrong about the pilot part. I am one. It takes on average 40 hours of flight time to get ones private license, but thats not a requirement. Most people solo after 20 hours or so, and then ride with instructors here and there afterwords to sharpen their skills. The 40 hours time is a lot of book work, navigation training, etc. Flying planes is pretty easy compared to the book work. I used to fly out of a non-towered airport with a training school. You want to talk about scary?
We had a mid-air collision a couple years ago at KCTJ, Carrollton Ga, between two single engine planes, one an older gentleman by himself and the other a student and instructor from one of the local pilot mills. I the next day I ordered an ADS-B transponder for my son's 182! Nothing against folks from other countries, both my parents are immigrants, but in aviation, not speaking English clearly or understanding it clearly is a problem at uncontrolled fields! I imagine in South Florida it's worse!
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullpt View Post
Its simply amazing seemingly very capable people on shore turn into complete imbeciles on the water.
And most are drunk. The same people who wouldt dare drive their car drunk for some twisted reason think its the cool thing to do on the water.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
While sailing my little sloop, I was almost rammed by a huge yacht on the wrong side of the channel which did NOT yield the right-of-way. I dodged the boat and shouted obscenities at the helmsman to no avail. It kept going upriver. I tracked down the boat in the downtown Tarpon Springs dock area and gave the owner an earful.
Did you have the "right of way" ? (Rule 9)

Because, as described, a "little sloop" under sail in a narrow channel or fairway "shall not impede the passage of a vessel that can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway" (Huge Yacht)

Just sayin'
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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Oooohh the tragedies of being an empowered white man in this cruel luxury world !!!
Can be taxing at times, but got to keep chin up and drinks cold
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