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Old 03-13-2019, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chester22 View Post
some of us are trying to hide from the sun
True. Most fishermen in SFL are completely covered, even wearing face masks. Not too many people here are lounging around trying to get sun. And if your gf/wife is, then she will look like a old piece of leather when she's 40. That melanoma is a bitch.

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Old 03-13-2019, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
wins the internet for dumbest post of the day...so there isnt more room in your 24 foot boat...really...just the only room you want to acknowledge....funny how many of us fish the front, sides and stern of our center consoles and how many cuddy owners cant seem to wrap their heads around it...lol...
So much hate ! Sounds like a democrat post.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:45 PM
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So here is another point about more or less fishing room on a cc. If the majority of your fishing is trolling, you are generally not going to use any room front of the console. If the majority of time you're fishing by yourself or with one other person, you are generally not using the front of the cc. Only if you're fishing with a boat load of friends and you're doing a lot of bottom fishing or casting, are you really going to use room all around a cc. For trolling I would say that a 40' express would have way more room than a 40' cc, plus you don't have the engines in the way. I don't have that many friends that can go fishing on a regular basis. Actually, I don't have that many friends! lol



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Old 03-13-2019, 08:01 PM
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We went from a 272 grady to a CapeHorn 32. The grady kept us dry, but it was slow and a fuel hog. The CC cape is kinda dry, but its fuel efficient and fast. We get 2 more hours of fishing with it vs the grady and we spend 30% less on fuel. I love the CC!
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post
I don't have that many friends that can go fishing on a regular basis. Actually, I don't have that many friends! lol
Buy the new 40' boat and I'll be your friend
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post
So here is another point about more or less fishing room on a cc. If the majority of your fishing is trolling, you are generally not going to use any room front of the console. If the majority of time you're fishing by yourself or with one other person, you are generally not using the front of the cc. Only if you're fishing with a boat load of friends and you're doing a lot of bottom fishing or casting, are you really going to use room all around a cc. For trolling I would say that a 40' express would have way more room than a 40' cc, plus you don't have the engines in the way. I don't have that many friends that can go fishing on a regular basis. Actually, I don't have that many friends! lol



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Until you run into a big fish you have to run down. Boats go faster in forward than reverse A good 75% of decent size king mackerel caught on live bait are fought from the bow. IMO it’s easier to beat a big fish like a bluefin on standup gear from the bow. Chairs belong in the cockpit of course.

Also I notice you are kind of ignoring outboard expresses? I can understand that as they are the worst of both.

Both styles have positives and negatives, which buyers weigh against their own wants, desires, and fishing styles. There is no such thing as a one size fits all boat.

As as far as availability, a bunch of the express fans denigrate center consoles as being cheaper, so they’d be better off going the custom route anyway, and custom is happy to do an express or convertible.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
know what else is cool?...i can take my family out and if they get tired of fishing they can lounge out in the sun without climbing on anything while i continue to fish without bumping into them....even behind the leaning post...where i have lots of room...
On any 24 foot CC it's a 3 person crew or it gets tight. And if they want out of the sun or rain? There's no place out of the sun or rain other than standing at the helm. That's you driving while your blue lipped kids hang on to the sides.

If they are banished to swelter on that V bow sure you have lots of room for TWO whole people unless one drives the boat. I regularly fish 6 behind where I'm sitting while driving the boat.

Certain things I can't do as easily. Running up to the bow to cast at xyz. Casting nets from the bow and landing that net at the stern.

We fish the rear 270 degrees with little but the outboards to get in the way. It's all open space deck to sky.. 4 person rotation on dolphin with 4 hooked up at a time swapping places to keep lines from tangling. Only the very largest CC's have space for that without tripping all over each other.

My upgrade to 30 ft will give me over 15 feet of sky both sides of the boat, a swim platform bigger than you rear cockpit, a cabin to lay in or on, a large dry and air conditioned space if it's raining or hot and if I do the walk through I can still cast for that cobia.

I thought about this a lot and CC's just don't do many things well. Cost is the only factor.

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Old 03-14-2019, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chester22 View Post
some of us are trying to hide from the sun
hence the t-top and the front shade when lounging...but we like the sun in the winter...may be foreign to some of you northerners...

Originally Posted by petealan View Post
True. Most fishermen in SFL are completely covered, even wearing face masks. Not too many people here are lounging around trying to get sun. And if your gf/wife is, then she will look like a old piece of leather when she's 40. That melanoma is a bitch.
shes 59 and still as hot as the day i met her...other than a little arthritis she held up really well...

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So much hate ! Sounds like a democrat post.
never mind the guys who come up with reasons center consoles dont work...and a devout conservative...you cant get anything right...can you?...
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
guess that depends on what type of offshore fishing you do...tough having 6 people deep drop out of the cockpit of an express or cuddy and nobody is gonna be real tickled about being stuffed in the bow or along the siderails of a walkaround....

every style of boat has its usefulness...hard to believe there are so many who cant see this...many of us came from cuddy and express boats to center consoles...not because we were looking for ford escorts (probably the most ignorant comment on this thread)...because they have a usefulness to us that other boats dont fulfill...

oh...and many larger center consoles are being put into long range fishing use due to the fuel savings they offer...
I've never bottom fished with 6 people on a boat. I can assure you the guy that drew the short straw to be in the bow is up there wishing he was in the back

I like CC, so not bashing them. This is a debate akin to Ford/Chevy, Etec/4 stoke, no wrong answer, just preference. I will say that I think alot of larger CC owners have never been exposed to other boat types for a long enough period of time to truly evaluate their usefulness that CC dont fulfill, to use your words.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:24 AM
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Also I notice you are kind of ignoring outboard expresses? I can understand that as they are the worst of both.
I owned my outboard express for two years. You are right. I ended up feeling strongly that a 47' boat would be better with diesels. Its an awful heavy boat to be pushed by outboards (even 4) and the economy sucked. Plus the generator was diesel, with a 25 gl tank. So on trips on the hook, I would bring jerry jugs with extra diesel, PITA. Obviously on a diesel boat the genny would feed off the main tank. I suppose the smaller Gradys and Pursuit expresses would be okay, but still the same problem with the genny 25 gl tank. If you get way down in the Bahamas past Exuma, the gas can be questionable. Or anywhere in the Bahamas for that matter. Diesel not so bad. With boats and outboards Size does matter, and except for bragging rights having 4-6 outboards isn't much fun realistically. Just turning the flush valve 4-6x every 15 min is a PITA.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:53 AM
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I owned my outboard express for two years. You are right. I ended up feeling strongly that a 47' boat would be better with diesels. Its an awful heavy boat to be pushed by outboards (even 4) and the economy sucked. Plus the generator was diesel, with a 25 gl tank. So on trips on the hook, I would bring jerry jugs with extra diesel, PITA. Obviously on a diesel boat the genny would feed off the main tank. I suppose the smaller Gradys and Pursuit expresses would be okay, but still the same problem with the genny 25 gl tank. If you get way down in the Bahamas past Exuma, the gas can be questionable. Or anywhere in the Bahamas for that matter. Diesel not so bad. With boats and outboards Size does matter, and except for bragging rights having 4-6 outboards isn't much fun realistically. Just turning the flush valve 4-6x every 15 min is a PITA.
That size big diesels only way to go. Nice smooth transoms. In the 30's a couple inside pods might work better due to easy swap. 45+ is Way to big to only be a CC.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chad.sfds View Post
I will say that I think alot of larger CC owners have never been exposed to other boat types for a long enough period of time to truly evaluate their usefulness that CC dont fulfill, to use your words.
I disagree with this because a large number of the buyers of the super large CCs are downsizing from expresses or convertibles.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:44 PM
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A center console is so popular because it has a lot of deck space to fish, lounge, etc for day boaters and it's now "cool" to send 500k+ to have a 36ft+ quad engine outboard speedboat.
The wide passage to the bow makes docking more easy and safe than from the higher bow of a express/convertible with narrow passage to the bow
Fishing for big fishes can be more comfortable to fight from the boat and for bottom fishing more rods can be distributed between stern and bow
A center console is more for outdoor lovers who like to get sun, spray or rain if it get's snotty and the smell of the sea, a cabin boat more for comfort lovers and boaters who do overnights and/or live on their boat

Backdraw is the high exposure to the harmful sunlight, no overnight or limited cabin space, no a/c, kitchen, etc

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Old 03-14-2019, 12:57 PM
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I owned my outboard express for two years. You are right. I ended up feeling strongly that a 47' boat would be better with diesels. Its an awful heavy boat to be pushed by outboards (even 4) and the economy sucked.
you said you had 300's? maybe too little displacement was part of the problem...
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
I disagree with this because a large number of the buyers of the super large CCs are downsizing from expresses or convertibles.
probably because they just realized that they only waste space they don't need having a cabin boat

Express boats have a semi open cockpit providing shade and protection from foul weather
Convertible boats have a closed cabin "isolating" from the outside, better foul weather protection, have a/c and shade plus mucho mucho comforto

Whe i go boating i wanna feel the elements and i give a f@#k on sitting inside, sipping martinies, having a/c and the crew calls me when they hooked a fish, that is boring to me, but that's me...

Things change and thats why i would consider a express or convertible if i would boat a lot in colder weather or do a lot of cruises with overnight stays, then a good bed, a useful kitchen, a big shower comes handy.

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Originally Posted by chester22 View Post
some of us are trying to hide from the sun
so you fish from the cabin?...is that what the cute little ports are for?...
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One day everyone will discover LIGHT WEIGHT BOATS are better all round than horrible heavy glass boats !
Don't need as much hp so motors are more economical easier to handle easier to use easier on fuel and if your a trailing person easier to launch and retrieve with just one person and don't need a truck to tow it with !
And as for twin motors you'll also learn you really only need ONE motor and if you take care of it ,it lasts for many years even up to 20 years is not uncommon in some parts of the world , and the motor im referring to looked like it was new and serviced once a year AND WE used to go way off shore out of the sight of land into very deep water (1000 foot plus ) fish all day and take maybe 4 hours to get home because of sea conditions and the motor never missed a beat ever . And no not one single person would ever never even contemplate owning a center console half a tub kind of boat !
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the further north your go the less popular they are but I would guess people just fishing for the day want more speed to get where there going faster and to be able to fish around the whole boat
I remember when they said Bay Boats wouldn't leave the south. Im hearing about more and more showing up in NY/NJ/CT.

There is an ass for every seat. Thats how I look at things in life. And I believe CCs being easy to travel with on roads play a big part too.
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I never bought a boat because it handled well on the road.
Is that a fla. thing?
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:35 PM
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360 degree fishing.
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