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302sport 03-12-2019 06:26 AM

Petealan do you fish?? What would the breakdown of your boating trips be like if you broke it down like this:

20% fish
40% long trip for overnight
20% sandbar
20% sunset cruise

Only reason Iím asking is if your boating usage is skewed one way than maybe it makes sense to buy a boat that does best what you use it the most to do and charter the boat that you will need for the couple times a year. For example, we fish maybe once or twice a year in South Florida, so instead of buying a sport fish, we bought a Pershing which is a lot faster, has a shallower draft with the surface drives, has the tender garage for the dinghy, dive tanks, air compresser, and has retractable roof and sides to open up on nice days. It is a much better boat for island hopping, sandbar, day trips, sunset cruises, etc..., but if we want to fish that one time a winter, just pick the phone up and charter something.

MrWesson 03-12-2019 07:04 AM

People like what they know. Odds are they started with a smaller CC.
They are lightweight for the capability/length. Try towing a 34' express anywhere.
They look cool(this is 50% of why we do anything).

All that being said I like slower comfy boats like trawlers/diesel express/sportfish.

BillTex 03-12-2019 07:38 AM

-It's easier to fish in a cc than an express especially if you're casting
Not true. Most cc's have a T-top that gets in the way of casting. Express boats typically have an open cockpit with no obstruction overhead.

-It's easy to create a dry space behind side wings if getting wet is a concern and they can be removed when it's 90 degrees and you want more breeze
Every cc I have been on-the only one that (might) stay dry and has a seat is the Capt.

-There is a lot more usable deck space
Not true. Express style boats have much larger unobstructed cockpits

- It is bought by guys not looking to spend the weekend sleeping on a boat
OK I'll concede that point. But express boats have better rod storage, bunk for nappy time, head space, etc...

I have owned cc's, walkarounds, and express boats. I can't imagine ever owning another cc. But we live in New England.



Willyt123 03-12-2019 07:51 AM

Because cabins have windows and hatches. They all leak or will leak. Then they always smell like mildew and have black stains on the walls

MUHSFINK07 03-12-2019 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by petealan (Post 12324779)


MUHSFIN, now that you mention it Iím really liking the Intrepid 375 Walkaround. Kind of checks all the boxes. Another option is an older beat around 33í CC of any good brand, and a diesel express like an Abermarle or similar.

Good idea. You really don't see that many 375 Walkarounds. I think that in that category most people bite the bullet and get the 407 cuddy since they are so similar in size. You have a fun time ahead of you looking at all sorts of boats! Enjoy it!

MUHSFINK07 03-12-2019 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by latebraker (Post 12325899)




Do you Gents have a better Idea for the OP? I would be a curious, I know of boat that achieves 60, drafts 36, has a stand up shower, sleeps 4 and can tournament fish? Anything comparable?


Bills106 might have something to say about that with his amazing 41 foot express build... :thumbsup: But nope, not with the speed that you could get out of it. I for one though would go with quads if I were building. Having two livewells in the rear eliminates the transom door anyway. I would think you could easily get to 60+ and cruise at either a much faster or much more economical speed depending.

Kidzdent 03-12-2019 08:49 AM

Cool people buy them and fish them....that’s why..

Denver Dave 03-12-2019 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Reachport (Post 12325394)
I believe that Center Consoles are so popular for the same reason that 4 strokes are so popular: That's what people have been told they should like. Before the advent of the 4 stroke, people loved their 2 strokes. Now, if you listen to all the praise for less noise and no exhaust smell from the 4 strokes by people who have them, 4 strokes sound wonderful.

The fact of the matter is that Center Consoles are easier and cheaper to build. Eliminating the cabin eliminates lots of detail work and expense for the builder. The one thing the propaganda artists haven't been able to do is make people believe that Ethanol gas is better than non-ethanol, but stay tuned, they are working on that.
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So we're all just a bunch of undereducated lemmings?

peninsula_jumper 03-12-2019 12:39 PM

Hose off the blood, beer, and puke and go home. No vacuum required.

CC's are the pickups of the boat world.

You can take almost anyone on one and not worry about them spilling a red boat drink in the salon. You can dial down the redneck filter on a guest list with a CC.

We boat\fish with a couple other families, both have 35 Vikings - awesome boats.... but I'm gassed, washed and covered before they've even pumped their holding tanks out.

TCBDawg 03-12-2019 12:47 PM

I'm interested to see how it develops as designers progress with incorporating small cabins extending under the console forward to a larger deck lounger while still having room on the deck forward of the lounger. Jupiter 43SF and the Intrepid Panacea 407 and 475; also the Edgewater 370cc. I think a lot of room to grow in this segment. OP - the Edgewater 370cc may be worth a look. It's the only outboard powered boat I've seen with my wife wherein she said she would "let me spend that much money on a boat".

pizzacutter 03-12-2019 02:29 PM

Just my $.02 worth, but I would not trade our 30 year old 42' Express for a new 42' CC (if I had to keep/use it). We can pretty much do what any 42" CC can do.. Trailer, Fish, Sandbar, etc. And back in the day I might have picked up some tail once or twice at a waterfront bistro. The big factors for us are,

Travel- we like to take long trips, many times 100 ++ miles each way. Keys, Bahamas, Outer Banks NC, etc.. Being able to get the protection of a large windshield is a BIG deal. We can seat 6 or more people out of the sun, salt, spray rain, etc, with all belongings safely stored in the cabin. . It really makes a difference in comfort while u are underway and fatigue after 8 hours of cruising
Live-Aboard- We just love to stay on the boat for a few days, or a few weeks. You meet cool people & see neat things especially after dark with the U/W lights on. We are sitting on the boat drinking our own cocktails, eating our own snacks, listening to our own music, and sleeping in our own bed. Plus we don't have to haul luggage back and forth to the room, which may or may not be near the boat. Our cabin is well stocked with most anything we might need on a trip

Again, just my opinion, but Having done it on this same boat for 29 years, I know it works for me, and my wife likes it too :)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...6bdbe6eba7.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...1e6f90c521.jpg

MUHSFINK07 03-12-2019 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by pizzacutter (Post 12328087)
Just my $.02 worth, but I would not trade our 30 year old 42' Express for a new 42' CC (if I had to keep/use it). We can pretty much do what any 42" CC can do.. Trailer, Fish, Sandbar, etc. And back in the day I might have picked up some tail once or twice at a waterfront bistro. The big factors for us are,

Travel- we like to take long trips, many times 100 ++ miles each way. Keys, Bahamas, Outer Banks NC, etc.. Being able to get the protection of a large windshield is a BIG deal. We can seat 6 or more people out of the sun, salt, spray rain, etc, with all belongings safely stored in the cabin. . It really makes a difference in comfort while u are underway and fatigue after 8 hours of cruising
Live-Aboard- We just love to stay on the boat for a few days, or a few weeks. You meet cool people & see neat things especially after dark with the U/W lights on. We are sitting on the boat drinking our own cocktails, eating our own snacks, listening to our own music, and sleeping in our own bed. Plus we don't have to haul luggage back and forth to the room, which may or may not be near the boat. Our cabin is well stocked with most anything we might need on a trip

Again, just my opinion, but Having done it on this same boat for 29 years, I know it works for me, and my wife likes it too :)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...6bdbe6eba7.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...1e6f90c521.jpg


What type is that?

Tossedabout 03-12-2019 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by kendall (Post 12323905)
fishability

bingo

N2theblue 03-12-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by BillTex (Post 12326582)
-It's easier to fish in a cc than an express especially if you're casting
Not true. Most cc's have a T-top that gets in the way of casting. Express boats typically have an open cockpit with no obstruction overhead.

-It's easy to create a dry space behind side wings if getting wet is a concern and they can be removed when it's 90 degrees and you want more breeze
Every cc I have been on-the only one that (might) stay dry and has a seat is the Capt.

-There is a lot more usable deck space
Not true. Express style boats have much larger unobstructed cockpits

These are only true if you are discounting the bow area, and discounting the multiple seats on modern large center consoles. Every 30+ footer out there nowadays has room for at least two, and up to 4 behind the console. Hell even my 21 has room for 2.

Trying to cast to surface fish from the cockpit of an express is frustrating, to say the least, unless they pop up right behind you. Casting from the bow of a CC though, that's a lot easier. Boats go faster in forward, so you can chase schools easier, and not have to spin the boat to cast to them.

Deck space includes the bow area. The only way to have more usable deck space than a CC is to get an express or convertible a lot bigger.

pizzacutter 03-12-2019 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by MUHSFINK07 (Post 12328223)
What type is that?

1987 Harley 42' T-Diesel / Arneson Drive
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...0f28c3efdd.jpg

thegeneral13 03-12-2019 04:45 PM

Seems like what a lot of people are touching on is boating as a lifestyle is being replaced by boating as a hobby. Priorities have shifted from creature comforts and livability to speed and ease of maintenance. Probably relates to society speeding up. If you could get there and back in a day, why are you anchoring up overnight you lazy bastard? The kids have xyz in the morning!

N2theblue 03-12-2019 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by thegeneral13 (Post 12328479)
Seems like what a lot of people are touching on is boating as a lifestyle is being replaced by boating as a hobby. Priorities have shifted from creature comforts and livability to speed and ease of maintenance. Probably relates to society speeding up. If you could get there and back in a day, why are you anchoring up overnight you lazy bastard? The kids have xyz in the morning!

And money. Dollars don't go as far as they used to, wages are basically stagnant, and you've gotta work twice as hard to make those dollars.

bladenbullet 03-12-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by thegeneral13 (Post 12328479)
Seems like what a lot of people are touching on is boating as a lifestyle is being replaced by boating as a hobby. Priorities have shifted from creature comforts and livability to speed and ease of maintenance. Probably relates to society speeding up. If you could get there and back in a day, why are you anchoring up overnight you lazy bastard? The kids have xyz in the morning!

no...many people are realizing that most people with cabins dont really use them...this is where the few that actually do chime in and say its not true...reality check...most dont sleep on their boats and i can grab a nap under an umbrell on the casting deck of my cc...


Originally Posted by BillTex (Post 12326582)
-It's easier to fish in a cc than an express especially if you're casting
Not true. Most cc's have a T-top that gets in the way of casting. Express boats typically have an open cockpit with no obstruction overhead.

-It's easy to create a dry space behind side wings if getting wet is a concern and they can be removed when it's 90 degrees and you want more breeze
Every cc I have been on-the only one that (might) stay dry and has a seat is the Capt.

-There is a lot more usable deck space
Not true. Express style boats have much larger unobstructed cockpits

- It is bought by guys not looking to spend the weekend sleeping on a boat
OK I'll concede that point. But express boats have better rod storage, bunk for nappy time, head space, etc...

I have owned cc's, walkarounds, and express boats. I can't imagine ever owning another cc. But we live in New England.

no idea where all that came from...ive owned cuddys and express cruisers up to 30' and spent a great deal of time living on them during vacations and weekends...most dont do that though...i have gone back and forth since in florida and landed squarely on a center console with a great deal of storage space, fishing room galore...room to relax and a large console to hide behind in a blinding rain if necessary on the trip home...

i havent got a clue where the t top getting in the way of casting comes from...and we all have tops down here because we actually get sunshine...then we have a choice....although i dont remember many boats up north without some kind of top that would "get in the way of casting"...

deck space?...sure...if you only spend time behind the helm...i can walk 360* without climbing or turning sideways and fight fish all the way around the boat unencumbered (the reason we like t tops instead of biminis)...

plenty of room under the gunwales and in compartments if necessary...but most of the time they are just out in rocket launchers and leaning post holders...oh...i get it...you can lay the rods on your cuddy bunks because nobody really uses them...

life is a little different down here where you can where a t shirt year round...i grew up on lake ontario so i have an appreciating for a cabin...but down here the cabin was just in the way of me enjoying the outdoors...where i would rather be...

Reachport 03-12-2019 05:25 PM

Stick a picnic umbrella over a rowboat. What have you got ? A Center Console !

Seriously, It's simple: If all you want to do is fish, get a CC. If you like some creature comforts while on the water, don't get a CC. Unless it's at least 30' long and has a basement.

peninsula_jumper 03-12-2019 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by thegeneral13 (Post 12328479)
Seems like what a lot of people are touching on is boating as a lifestyle is being replaced by boating as a hobby. Priorities have shifted from creature comforts and livability to speed and ease of maintenance. Probably relates to society speeding up. If you could get there and back in a day, why are you anchoring up overnight you lazy bastard? The kids have xyz in the morning!

Iíd love to spend 4 evenings a week at my yacht club. But we have year round sports for 2 kids, a 15 year old dog at home, church events, work, family and friends.

I donít see how that is any different than when I was a kid in the 80ís. Probably why I grew up on CCís.

Boats are fun, but are a small facet in making diamonds out of our kids.


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