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Old 03-11-2019, 05:43 PM
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Its a fashion item !! Half a boat at three times the price !! what a bargain ! the manufactures sure caught you guys hook line and sinker and reeling them in by the dozen !! Why ??
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:44 PM
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My 26WA fits my needs as it is ideal for 2 people fishing. You can get away with 3 but 4 is defiantly crowded. 90% of the time it's the wife & myself so I'm good to go with the deck area. If I hook a crazy King I can walk it around & back down the other side if I'm anchored. Can also get to the windless when it acts up. I keep 8 rods in the cabin that I don't have to tote back & forth each time I use the boat & it keeps everything else dry including my wife & myself when caught offshore in a summer thunderstorm. Most of all it's comfortable as hell and after owning cc's for 30 years & at 63yrs old it's nice to get out of the wind & spray. Don't you cc guys just love that sun burned dry hard salt spray on your face at the end of the day?
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:02 PM
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In seas all that room up front has proven useless to me. Room behind the helm is far more valuable to me but I mostly spearfish and troll. I get the cc thing... had them before but never again.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thefuzz View Post
I have a DC now, but a CC before.

Speed. Range. Looks. Fish inshore and off. Skinny water and deep. Easy to maintain. Outboard power (easy maintenance again), Cost.


Plus the ladies love the forward seating.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by latebraker View Post




Why not get yourselves a Intrepid 40’ cuddy? Pretty versatile boat.
Yep I agree. Super nice.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post
The 475 was a gorgeous boat and I sold it after two years for almost what I paid for it. It was a major fuel hog, I was getting .6 mpg at 30 kts best cruise, which really effected range. If I tried to get from Miami to Nassau I'd be sucking fumes, always had stop at Chub. It handled like a sports car and I could easily dock alone, and none of that wimpy joystick stuff either. lol.
Wow. Interesting. I make it Miami-Nassau with fuel to spare. Doing 1.1 ish. I hold 306 gallons. That 475 must have been a bit weak on holding capacity despite the bad mileage. My neighbor has a blue 475 with quad 300’s. Never asked him what the range is. I sure do love looking at it!
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:44 PM
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I believe that Center Consoles are so popular for the same reason that 4 strokes are so popular: That's what people have been told they should like. Before the advent of the 4 stroke, people loved their 2 strokes. Now, if you listen to all the praise for less noise and no exhaust smell from the 4 strokes by people who have them, 4 strokes sound wonderful.

The fact of the matter is that Center Consoles are easier and cheaper to build. Eliminating the cabin eliminates lots of detail work and expense for the builder. The one thing the propaganda artists haven't been able to do is make people believe that Ethanol gas is better than non-ethanol, but stay tuned, they are working on that.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:53 PM
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Going back to the original question - why a CC versus other models?

For us, it was two-fold:
1. For me, it was the simplicity -- absolutely ZERO time spent working on shower systems, A/C systems, water heaters, generators, windshield wipers, hatch leaks, side window leaks, etc,, etc., etc. Basically everyday tasks for most boaters. I hop on our Intrepid and go fish.

2. For my wife, she disliked sitting in the back of our Express boats with limited visibility, especially at cruise speeds. All day long you look at the the salon door or the captain's ass at the helm. When we had friends on board, they would all sit in the cockpit and have only a midship and stern view. With the forward seats in our CC (and even the tip-up rear seat), there's 360 degree visibility. Much more enjoyable for our guests.

I have to admit that our boating requirements changed, though. We were cruisers for many years -- now we use the boat almost exclusively for fishing with infrequent cocktail cruise thrown in from time to time. A CC is a much better fit.

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Old 03-11-2019, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post
I'm between boats. Wasn't going to buy for a while but now my adult son says, "I'll go partners with you." I've had 3 CCs until wife got tired of being caught in storms, and eating lunch in the blazing sun, then went to an Intrepid 475 which is an express style boat. I'm now looking for a 33'-40' due to son's wants (fuel economy, range, easy handling, etc.) As I read the Bimini and Abaco threads I can't help but notice guys mentioning getting caught in rain storms, taking spray in rough seas, family being on beanbags, etc. So I'm asking why the popularity of CCs, when most manufacturers make an express style for equal money that keeps the boaters nice and dry in bad conditions? Is it just the flavor of the moment or fishability or what? If I spent $600,000 on a cc and my wife was getting rained on she would surely shoot me.

I don't have much idea of why the 40+ footers are getting so popular, because to me an express is so much better once you get to that size range, but the biggest reasons for CCs in general are:
Speed
Fishability
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Cost - CCs are cheaper to maintain than expresses (and probably cheaper in initial cost as well)
Ease of maintenance
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PPLEPEU View Post
Going back to the original question - why a CC versus other models?

For us, it was two-fold:
1. For me, it was the simplicity -- absolutely ZERO time spent working on shower systems, A/C systems, water heaters, generators, windshield wipers, hatch leaks, side window leaks, etc,, etc., etc. Basically everyday tasks for most boaters. I hop on our Intrepid and go fish.

2. For my wife, she disliked sitting in the back of our Express boats with limited visibility, especially at cruise speeds. All day long you look at the the salon door or the captain's ass at the helm. When we had friends on board, they would all sit in the cockpit and have only a midship and stern view. With the forward seats in our CC (and even the tip-up rear seat), there's 360 degree visibility. Much more enjoyable for our guests.

I have to admit that our boating requirements changed, though. We were cruisers for many years -- now we use the boat almost exclusively for fishing with infrequent cocktail cruise thrown in from time to time. A CC is a much better fit.
Some really good points here. Even though my 475 was only 5 years old when I bought it, I spent lots of time R&R shower sumps, air conditioners, massive house batteries that were $900 ea., leaky refrigerator seals, generator oil leaks and 100 hr services, the Glendinning Getting stuck, etc, etc. it was actually worse than maintaining my house. Plus I had full window and upholstery covers that would take me 20 minutes to put on and off. Thanks for reminding me. My wife would say, “let’s go for a sunset cruise” and I would cringe at the hour it was going to take me for covers on/off, flushing, etc for a 30 min boat ride.

My boat before the 475 was a CC and I rarely did anything to it. Jump in and go.
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:32 PM
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Just left my sweetheart 25’ c hawk pilothouse only to go back to a cc because getting older and can’t see well out of it. Had the wife out 2 years ago and almost ran into a jet ski, the wife said it was his fault for trying to jump the wake but at that moment I knew it was over. I literally turned the boat back to the dock, parked it and put the sighn on it. Now back in the cc were I can see everything much better. Rebuilt the boat from top to bottom and it was my pride and joy, dual helm and all, but thinking that I may have killed someone or my grandkids because I can’t see well out of it. That is all it took for me. Now I use my new cc twice as much.

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Old 03-11-2019, 07:50 PM
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My 475 had a complete glass bridge/pilothouse. I couldn’t see shit at night with the outside light reflections off the glass, even with the Garmins lowest light setting and all other instruments with covers on. And if you stare at the Flir then your night vision is shot. Made it very stressful.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:14 PM
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I am not center console fan myself but this title reminds me of a very good scene from Joe Dirt.


In the end , it's what the consumer wants brother.
I love my walk around and I had dual console too and loved it. I have rented center condoles before but some guys just don't appreciate the perceived value of the CC. I cruise, adventure cruise, water sports, fish and sometimes over night and the WA is truly an SUV of the water. It doesnt fish the best but it fishes well and does other things too, good. Lol
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by petealan View Post


Yep I agree. Super nice.



Do you Gents have a better Idea for the OP? I would be a curious, I know of boat that achieves 60, drafts 36, has a stand up shower, sleeps 4 and can tournament fish? Anything comparable?
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:05 PM
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Just made the transition from an express to a larger CC. The fishability and range were major priorities that gave the edge to the CC. The express had features that we found were not being fully used and had many more items that would break (AC, water heater, glendenning, refridgerator, etc. etc.). We are pretty much pure fisherman and the cabin feature was hardly ever used for cruising, etc. We would use the cabin for overnighters, but realized after a summer without the A/C that bean bags would be just as effective. The express did provide some great cover when if we got caught in weather, but we pick our days pretty carefully. Fully enclosed hard windshield + polycarbonate wings on the CC should provide effective enough coverage if we got caught in some foul weather.

Our thought process behind the CC was the combined added range, speed, handling abilities, and fishability all contributed to being able to maximize our time on the water. We are pretty limited to the amount of fishing time (weather/work/life), so finding a boat that could get us to the furthest fishing grounds faster and comfortably were the priorities.

To each is their own and there is no one fit for everyone. There are pros and cons for each one. Its just a matter of how you are going to use the boat and picking the one with the most features that meet you needs.
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:39 PM
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Wow. Interesting. I make it Miami-Nassau with fuel to spare. Doing 1.1 ish. I hold 306 gallons. That 475 must have been a bit weak on holding capacity despite the bad mileage. My neighbor has a blue 475 with quad 300’s. Never asked him what the range is. I sure do love looking at it!
The 475 holds 485 gl. I had quad 300 Verados. Loaded to the gills for Bahamas and with a completely enclosed bridge my boat was heavy. Heavy I cruised at 30kts @ 70Gph. From my dock to Nassau dock is about 195 miles, or about 6.5 hour run, although we usually stop for a swim inside by Gun Cay after crossing. 70Gph x 6.5 hours= 455 gl burned, leaving only 30gl fuel best case with great seas, and usually after Chub we have to slow it down in the rougher seas. In my world having only 30 gl sloshing around is cutting it too close.
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A pic of my 475 being hauled out for Hurricane Irma. One of only two 475s ever built with an enclosed bridge, a $225,000 option. The other is in Dubai.
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1. Fishability- Freedom to run across the whole deck whilst fishing and normally larger fishing area
2. Economy - Any sort of structure adds weight
3. Efficiency - Even small cover/cabin creates wind resistance at speed
3. Physical appeal

For some people simple is always better.
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Look at the 37 Axopar. Can get out of the weather in a fully climate controlled, glass enclosed cockpit, runs over 60mph with twins, and costs around $250k out the door brand new. My buddy just ordered one and its pretty sweet.
Curious so I looked it up.

Finnish made so add how much to get it here to USA?

"The boat cut through seas well, thanks to a knife-sharp bow; but a tissue-paper-light displacement of 8,300 pounds meant that, at times, the boat was launched airborne. I was thankful I’ve never had a cavity; the hull handled the slamming more than a filling ever could."

She pounds a lot. Don't get me wrong, most CC's pound fillings like a boxing match.. It's a very nice looking boat for that price. At least the wife is dry. 8000 pounds seems way light for a boat that size with those engines to be able to survive that pounding long would amaze me.
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Originally Posted by Jumpsummo View Post
Curious so I looked it up.

Finnish made so add how much to get it here to USA?

"The boat cut through seas well, thanks to a knife-sharp bow; but a tissue-paper-light displacement of 8,300 pounds meant that, at times, the boat was launched airborne. I was thankful I’ve never had a cavity; the hull handled the slamming more than a filling ever could."

She pounds a lot. Don't get me wrong, most CC's pound fillings like a boxing match.. It's a very nice looking boat for that price. At least the wife is dry. 8000 pounds seems way light for a boat that size with those engines to be able to survive that pounding long would amaze me.

Not claiming they’re good boats or anything of that sort. Just looking at the boat on paper, it appears to be pretty good. Don’t know anything real world in terms of ride, build quality, etc...
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