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Old 03-10-2019, 05:04 PM
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I run a transport business and we had an automatic gate close on a Supra boat that we were hauling.

It damaged both sides.

Before I start getting quotes for repairs I would like to see what kind of costs I should expect to get this boat looking new again.

I would really appreciate some information.

Thanks a lot.
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Old 03-10-2019, 05:07 PM
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Pictures would help. Those are $$$ boats
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Old 03-10-2019, 05:26 PM
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I'm having trouble uploading images. I upload and they dont show up. I cant attach urls either since i just joined. Here is one that I posted.

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Old 03-10-2019, 05:28 PM
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Looks like it got the trailer fenders also.
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Old 03-10-2019, 06:32 PM
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Old 03-10-2019, 06:38 PM
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What does your insurance company say or are you a fly by night operation paying out of pocket?
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You run a transport business but come here for advice?
seems weird.......
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:17 PM
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You run a transport business but come here for advice?
seems weird.......
I would kind of guess that means he delivers boats but doesnt do fiberglass repair... umm.....
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:40 PM
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I doesn't matter what one guy says this will cost to fix. Whoever owns the boat will decide how it gets fixed. Chances are the owner will not be interested in the cheapest fix. You should expect anywhere from $1,000 to $8,000. Best thing to do is to call the owner right away and let them know you'll be a stand up guy.

If you have commercial cargo insurance and an automatic gate really hit you, let your insurance company try to subrogate the loss. Keep in mind that a cargo claim is the same thing as an at fault accident with most carriers so you may have to let that driver go before your renewal.
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Oh, my apologies.
ummm?

Those that typically transport for a living don’t come to THT for advice on a repair. They know the drill.

tell me, umm how many BTU’s or what refrigerant would I need to cool a milk chilling tank to 70 degrees while pumping cows?
I wouldn’t ask that here, completly unrelated.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Hicks 2 View Post
Oh, my apologies.
ummm?

Those that typically transport for a living don’t come to THT for advice on a repair. They know the drill.

tell me, umm how many BTU’s or what refrigerant would I need to cool a milk chilling tank to 70 degrees while pumping cows?
I wouldn’t ask that here, completly unrelated.
70 degrees isn't very cold.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:28 PM
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Why do people have to read into everything and insult the guy? He came here asking a simple question. How about some simple answers?

Hard to tell from the one photo, but if the scratches on the hull aren't too deep, (just gelcoat) I'd say under $1000. Looks like the trailer fender got scraped too.
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Originally Posted by catch232 View Post
Why do people have to read into everything and insult the guy? He came here asking a simple question. How about some simple answers?

Hard to tell from the one photo, but if the scratches on the hull aren't too deep, (just gelcoat) I'd say under $1000. Looks like the trailer fender got scraped too.
That's 10' of scratch on two sides. I'd bet it will be a lot more than $1,000.

Keep in mind the owner gets to pick the best method of repair and he isn't paying for it. The owner's friends will also be giving hm advice and none of them are paying for it either. Some of those guys are going to want all new gelcoat if the scratches are deep enough. That's 8k all day.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:09 AM
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I am guessing the OP is trying to find out a ballpark price so he can decide whether to pay out of pocket, or run it through insurance.
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Old 03-11-2019, 04:24 AM
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thats why you have insurance...
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:29 AM
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Notify your carrier and ask that they assign a marine surveyor to inspect the damage (that's what I do for a living). We deal with this stuff every day. Also notify the boat owner (be it the boat builder, a dealer, or an individual). They should also notify their underwriter. The underwriter will probably assign a marine surveyor. The two insurance companies/surveoyrs will work it out.
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:41 AM
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Wouldn't the gate owner have some responsibility?
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:12 AM
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I'm guessing he's going to be paying out of pocket...not an insurance person or in hauling, but just a few things to consider.

1. If he's paying out of pocket, he's probably trying to find a range of what to expect, to make sure he's not going to gouged.

2. If he files a claim, his premiums are going to go up. What's the cost differential between the repair vs. increased premiums?

3. A while ago, I rolled my truck and took out about 50' of fencing. I hit a patch of black ice on a curve and that's all she wrote. I have great insurance and they took care of everything...I was interested in how much it would be to repair the fencing. Low and behold, I got a bill to replace the damaged fencing...it was about $10K for 50' of chain link fencing. They built in all sorts of extras, like a lane closure fee...(no need to close a lane, there's plenty of sidewalk for them to work on...) So I called my insurance company to complain about how much they were charging. The guy I talked to kind of laughed it off and said that I should see some of the bills that cross his desk and not to worry about anything.
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so a few thoughts...

first, i wouldnt be asking on an internet forum for primary advice based off a single picture... i would instead be trying to find a few local people to come take a look and come up with a quote...then potentially getting the internet's opinion

second, is it paint or gel coat? its pretty much impossible to get a repair either looking perfect and if you get close, it will show after spending some time in the sun. its very possible that based on the damage, its a brand new paint job, plus wax application, etc. could be $10k+

third, i have only ever transported my personal boats on trailers, never professionally, and i would never pass through an automatic gate without making sure it would stay open... as a professional hauler, i am sure there would be some extra care. is someone else liable? maybe and that is something that i would want to contemplate.

a claim is going to hurt but you will have to decide if its worth it using various data points. i.e. what is your deductible? could your rates sky rocket / policy get canceled? if you can stomach the worst case price and get an agreement in writing with the owner that its full and final settlement for that option, then perhaps not worth you filing an insurance claim but whenever I have had a transporter haul my boats, I've gotten all the transporters insurance info up front, so if the customer has its possible they call and file a claim against your insurance themself.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:35 AM
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From the picture, it doesn't look like an automatic gate, but it looks like he ran against a steel bollard. A bollard being a steel pipe filled with concrete, painted yellow, placed in a location to keep a vehicle from hitting an object.

Look at the fender on the trailer and the horizontal line on the hull (which is about 4' off the ground, the typical bollard height). lots of yellow paint transfer.

Either way, it's not a $1,000 fix.
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