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Old 09-11-2006, 03:24 AM
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Seacat FL - 9/11/2006 12:15 AM

I ignore private no wake signs.
Well, the "private" no wake signs on the docks on the Alsea are put up as reminders of the law. I emailed TB's posting with the regs to all of my neighbors, pictures will be taken and sent to the proper authorities. I'm not going to confront anyone, no sooner than I'd stop a speeder. I can say this though, humping sandbags, rip rap, timbers, whatever the chore should be the penalty for violators. It's my guess that they wouldn't destroy other people's property if they had to fix what they tore up. The fines should go into a distribution fund to maintain the private, and public docks and shore line improvements at the very least.
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There see, THT does it again...helping boaters....get out the cameras (Movies are much better in court) but still photos of a hull number is also very good.

1. First thing is to write to the local enforcement authority, explain the problem, offer your property to observe the violation from.

2. Have other property owners do the same thing by adding their names to your letter and make it a group effort. The more the better..

3. Send this letter certified mail, then you know when they received it and how long approximately it takes them to respond.

4. Should they not respond, contact the local media (in person) shows them you are serious about your problem. Invite them to come to your property and observe them same as you did the authorities.

5. Contact any agency with an interest in the River....

6. Put out flyers with your concerns for the safety of all boaters and property owners, has anyone ever been injured from this type of violation (canoeist or kayaker's), take photos of any damaged docks as well as any public property.

7. Contact the public enity in charge of making repairs to the public property that has been damaged in the past or at least where the public funds will have to come from when repairs are needed.

8. Should the violators be professional guides running the river with clients, you can get their hull numbers and see who owns the boat/s, and contact the local agency that issues their occupational licences / permits for operating a business...

These are just some idea's to assist you in trying to get to the bottom of this....Good Luck...

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Old 09-11-2006, 05:07 AM
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So, where does the BB62 come from...former US NAVY maybe. (USS New Jersey)

Indeed TB, you might have seen us bombin' the Shiites into vapor back in '83? Maybe it's time to bring her back again!
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Old 09-11-2006, 02:04 PM
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Hey Huck, what would you concider to be an acceptable sized no wake wake at your shorline?


All I know is, judging by that third pic of your's Huck, it would take someone all day just to get from a point of entry to quite fishing grounds if they could only travel at no wake speeds.
and then it would take them another day just to get back!
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I say get a remote controlled RC boat, put a mast on it with a sign that says SLOW DOWN, NO WAKE A$$HOLE. Those RC boats are fast.
And then, when you get the new one after the first one gets run over...


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Huck BB62,
We live 200’ off the Okechobee Inter coastal Waterway on an oxbow (dead end old river channel) near Ft Myers, FL. It is 400’ wide which looks maybe wider than yours and wider than most canals here because it was the river some 40 years ago. While it is plainly government marked Slow Zone, still people bust it on a regular basis. Once while working in the engine room while tied to the dock a passerby wake rocked the boat so bad the engine room bulkhead handed my head a nice gash. I am careful to look for wakes before I try to dock or put the boat on the lift and have learned to do maintenance only during the week when the water is quiet. I put up an official looking “No Wake Zone” sign which helped some but it still happens. My next door novice boater neighbors busted another no wake zone and then wondered why some SOB in a big boat ran circles around them throwing up a 3’ wake. I haven't tried that yet but would be interested in the mechanics of the motion sensor camera deal so if you put that together, please share how you did it.

Here’s our place from across the canal and BTW, we only paid 270K for it 5 years ago even though it might be considered expensive today so not everyone on the water are rich:


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Yes sir: You were shooting over my head and making some big holes in the ground, I was intel with Fleet Marines and Seals back then. Some of us swab jockeys did more than just ride the Ships....

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It doesn't matter if its a no wake zone or not, boaters are responsible for the damage done by their wake. I don't think that " he wasn't tied up good enough to avoid damage from my wake" or "his boat was too small and that's why it tipped" would hold up in court. Damage caused by the wake is damage, just as sure as damage caused by the bow.

I find it amazing that boaters who own boats themselves, think nothing of speeding by other peoples boats and watching them slam into the docks. They're not on a schedule, whats the problem.
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Old 09-11-2006, 07:45 PM
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Very beautiful property
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At first glance I thought that this was a homeowner who was getting their panties in a wad over a few typical boaters, but if it is indeed a legal no wake zone, I fully understand your arguement. If this no wake zone was created simply by the construction of your residence, and this disrupted the way things had always been, I also understand why some boaters would be upset, and prone to ignore the regulation.

I live on the water and do have mixed feelings about wake caused damage. IMO, it should be the legal responsibility of the property owner to properly construct, brace, protect, tie up, ect. their property given the normal situation for your area. If 40' motor yachts coming through throwing big rollers towards your dock, deal with it.....this is the norm. However if a boater comes through plowing, ect, in excess of this norm, they should be held responsible. Around here, by far the biggest offenders are the wake board boats with huge water bladders in them. They seek out the calmest coves to do their sport, which until the advent of the mega wake tow boats, were only frequented by normal lake boats and bass boats. IMO if somebody forgets their fenders, they have no argument to make against their boat getting scratched from a passing bass boat, however the guy throwing a big wake creating basic havoc on the dock should be fined.

Good luck in getting your problem solved, but at the same time be mindfull of the possible impact the very existance of your residence may have had on the "norm" in your situation.
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Old 09-11-2006, 08:48 PM
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In NC on the ICW you can get some big wakes behind a 50 footer at 20 knots. If you don't build your docks to withstand that wake you will soon have toothpicks.

I have a friend that has his dock on a tight section of the ICW. He has his 19 and 28 on lifts. The dock is secured with stainless steel anchors. (the anchors are for hurricane storm surge)
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Old 09-12-2006, 02:35 AM
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Huck BB62,
We live 200’ off the Okechobee Inter coastal Waterway on an oxbow (dead end old river channel) near Ft Myers, FL. It is 400’ wide which looks maybe wider than yours and wider than most canals here because it was the river some 40 years ago. While it is plainly government marked Slow Zone, still people bust it on a regular basis. Once while working in the engine room while tied to the dock a passerby wake rocked the boat so bad the engine room bulkhead handed my head a nice gash. I am careful to look for wakes before I try to dock or put the boat on the lift and have learned to do maintenance only during the week when the water is quiet. I put up an official looking “No Wake Zone” sign which helped some but it still happens. My next door novice boater neighbors busted another no wake zone and then wondered why some SOB in a big boat ran circles around them throwing up a 3’ wake. I haven't tried that yet but would be interested in the mechanics of the motion sensor camera deal so if you put that together, please share how you did it.

Here’s our place from across the canal and BTW, we only paid 270K for it 5 years ago even though it might be considered expensive today so not everyone on the water are rich:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...VBoatHouse.jpg

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TB Hawks - 9/11/2006 5:33 PM

Yes sir: You were shooting over my head and making some big holes in the ground, I was intel with Fleet Marines and Seals back then. Some of us swab jockeys did more than just ride the Ships....

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I don't own water front land, but I would love to. Is it a pain to slow down in front of these docks? Some times. But I hope that if I did own the land, folks would be respectful of it. No matter where your are your wake is your reasonability. If I am a mile from shore and wake out a small boat it is my fault. Is that a no wake zone? No, but I like to be an adult and think how my action effect others. Is it legal for PWC to race by me when trolling, maybe. But that does not make it right? I am not the type of person that stops in the middle of the ramp to talk to somebody or block everything to load my gear in the boat.

I would not have a problem with folk fishing around my dock- bouncing lures or lead of my gel coat would be different.

I think a lot of the problems with the world to day is that in the past if you did not respect somebody you might get that shot across the bow. Today to many folks only think "me,me", they could care less that there actions effect others
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After 20 years of ever increasing slow speed "manatee" zones here in Florida I am not interested in any more slow zones anywhere. Certainly not on the ICW just because somebody has come along and plopped a house and a dock in the middle of an unrestricted speed zone. They knew it was not a slow speed zone when they built there and should have taken that into account. If they want a boat they should put it on a lift.

Thats why I ignore privately declared slow speed zones if I feel like it.
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Seacat FL - 9/12/2006 9:16 AM
Thats why I ignore privately declared slow speed zones if I feel like it.
This BULLSH!T about privately posted no wake area cracks me up. I have seen VERY FEW No Wake signs where they don't make sense, very few, the few that are posted by the authorities here in my area of NJ particularly, are mostly buoys. A good hi tide and they move hundreds of yards from where they were placed anyway. I recently did a canal cruise through canals in Ocean City and Sea Isle City NJ and don't recall seeing one of the yellow signs the state used to put up. Why can't you guys admit that you don't give a dam about anyone but yourself! Plain old common courtesy....
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I live on a deepwater "creek". It is a fairly narrow section in front of my dock, but is very popular for waterskiers and jetskis flying past. When I moved here, I realized it was a no speed limit zone and the first thing I did BEFORE buying my boat was install a boatlift and put some night reflectors on the pilings and boathouse. Only problem I have is getting the boat on and off the lift should it be a busy weekend and wakes.

For the most part, I enjoy the traffic during the summer although I do see a lot of stupid things! But hey, the creek was here when I moved in and I also knew there was no speed limit! If it WERE a no-wake zone, I'd definitely have to figure something out to enforce it.
 
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Did you spend your winnings to repair your boat? Lets see some before and after pic's.
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