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24ft Seaswirl Swamped by 34 Foot Cabo

Old 09-08-2006, 08:39 PM
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The good news is that my Seaswirl didn't let me down. The scuppers made quick work of eliminateing the water and I never felt in danger of sinking. Another testament to good design for a mid tier boat.

Today I was swamped by the wake from a 34 foot Cabo. I was on the east side of Moriches Inlet (which is only a couple of hundred yards wide) trying to get an anchor line free from my outdrive. I am hanging over the back of my boat with my friend holding me by the belt and all of a sudden I can’t see anything but a wall of water. The wave was caused by a 34 foot Cabo going full throttle and it’s wake swamped my boat to 6 inches of water in the cockpit. I guesstimate the wave to be well over 3 foot because waterline to engine cover top is about 34-38 inches above water line. Remind you , I have a Eurotransom so that water had a lot of traveling to do to get in the cockpit after it cleared the height of my engine cover. One wake and I was soaked head to toe and my friend soaked to his waste. The Ahole in the Cabo never slowed of even looked back.

I literally had to chase the guy 3 miles off shore and I was doing about 39mph. This guy was cooking. I finally catch up with the guy and flag him to stop which he gave me a hard time about. He wasn't going to stop, till he hear me call the Coast Guard with his boat name. The Ahole in the Cabo looks at me at shrugs his shoulders as to say what then says you shouldn’t be in the inlet. What an Ahole. I called the Marine Police and Coast Guard. They took reports and assured me that I was in the right because you are responsible for your wake and his failure to slow down even clearly seeing that I was in some kind of peril.

My boat sustained some damage, mainly bent props from the anchor rope and the pulpit deck literally got a 6 inch gash from my anchor roller going sideways. If no damage to the outdrive other than the props, I am looking a over $1,000 in damage.

Should I use my insurance company or his? I don’t see why I should even put this through my insurance company as he was 100% at fault according to maritime law and I have witness’s to back it up.

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Old 09-08-2006, 08:50 PM
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Glad to hear you and your friend are OK. It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so clueless. I guess they're the same knuckleheads on the LIE and Southern State.
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We all make mistakes...one day you may be on the wrong side...
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Dave,

Glad you're OK. I would hate to think how much worse it could have been. What can I say, some people just don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. I would be damned if I was going to put it through my insurance. You have your reports and your passenger as a witness. When I go through the inlet here, I slow down when guys are fishing or if I think someone might need help.
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elcosito - 9/8/2006 7:51 PM

We all make mistakes...one day you may be on the wrong side...
You are right....everyone makes mistakes. And they should make good on any harm done by those mistakes.

Looneytunes, do not file a claim with your insurance. The CG has a report and you have a witness.....contact the owner of the Cabo and tell him you are seeking restitution from him.
Let us know how it turns out, and I'm glad to hear no one was seriously hurt.

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Be thankful that he was going full-throttle.

If he was plowing through at half-speed, his wake would have been triple the size and you would have been swimming with the sharks.

Glad that you made it through OK.

Nimrods will be nimrods...
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I sorry to hear about the damage to your boat. The Captain of the Cabo should have been more aware and slowed down when he saw you hanging off the stern. That being said he was concentrating on the inlet which is always a critical time. Depending on how many boats there were, the sun, the condition of the inlet, whether there were jet skis around, ect. he may not have noticed you. Also I know I get upset with people who anchor in my inlet and I have witnessed the Coast Guard tell people to pull their anchor as they pose a danger to traffic. I have no idea what the conditions of your inlet are and maybe it is common to anchor in it. Anyway I hope you get your damage fixed without to much hassle.
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The guy may have been an Ahole and put a wave over your stern but I don't see how he damaged your prop or pulpit...your anchor line was already fouled in your prop before he went by right?
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richinct - 9/8/2006 8:07 PM

The guy may have been an Ahole and put a wave over your stern but I don't see how he damaged your prop or pulpit...your anchor line was already fouled in your prop before he went by right?









My thoughts too...

Only "damage" that I can see (from the wake) is a little (maybe a lot) of water on him and the deck, (which drained out safely, thank goodness) and a bruised ego.

Bent prop and scraped pulpit?

Please clarify. ;?
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:29 PM
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The prop damage was caused by the rope and the anchor retrieval ball wrapped on the prop. The prop blade was literally bent back a little over 90 degrees. The boat was pulled down by the anchor as the wave lifted the boat. The pressure literally snapped my 1/2" anchor line. That's a lot of pressure.

Hope that clarifies it for you. I will take pictures tomorrow and show you.

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I literally had to chase the guy 3 miles off shore and I was doing about 39mph.


Wow 39 mph for 3 miles with a prop ear bent at 90 degrees.
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Default Re: 24ft Seaswirl Swamped by 34 Foot Cabo

I don't want to sound like a smart ass or anything and I am glad you are OK but, how were you able to do 39 mph with one blade bent 90 degrees?
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:46 PM
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For the skeptics. I have a duo prop. Only one blade was bent out of 6. Normally, the boat has a top speed of 45mph.

I will post pics of the damage tomorrow when I can see the boat again.

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I believe you. That would be hard to do with a reg outdrive and a single 3 blade prop.
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This type of scenario has come up before. I think it's always good to look at the aftermath and ask what more could have been done to avoid the situation. The one thing I can think of is better communication of one's status. Think of the arguments the guy in the Cabo has to his advantage...he didn't see you off to the side of the inlet. He'll say he saw no sign that you were disabled. And so on. One think I think I'm going to get for my boat is a Foxtrot flag. With that flag up, you have a much stronger case for your position on the matter because you're telling the world you are a disabled vessel. Another thought is that when disabled in a crowded seaway, one really needs somebody on radio watch if at all possible, calling to approaching vessels advising them of your status and sensitivity to wake. I realize this is difficult with just one or two on board,which makes the flag and even better idea.

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itwonder,

True story, but we were in a perilous situation. The anchor was pulling the boat down agains a 5-6 mph moon tide current. It was literally all hands on deck and get out of the situation as soon as possible. No time to muck with distress signals otherwise swamping would have been the least of my problems and we may have been talking salvage.


ThanX,

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Old 09-08-2006, 10:55 PM
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I wonder how he would like it if you had ran him down, boarded his vessel, and threw a bucket of water on him and his motors? If he didn't like it, you could just shrug your shoulders and break his fingers before you left. What an azz, having a large boat doesn't give you the right to tool around with no regard for others, but it can get you your hind quarters kicked. Can anyone tell I've been in a similar situation before?
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Here's another thought : Maybe we should apply the Gallager rules of the road to our waterways. Everyone is given standard issue dart guns, when you see someone being a dikweed, you shoot their boat. When they get 3 darts, the coasties pull them over and give them a ticket for being an azzhole.
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All of this could have been avoided with a good, sharp knife. It was a crappy situation, but definitely not worth the hassle of trying to get him to pay. At the end of the day, you wont get anything out of him or his insurance co. But you will get an ulcer trying to get paid! Be thankful and move on.
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I was attempting to free first then cut if necessary. If a knife was in my hand at the time, I would have received serious injuries. I will win damages according to CG and Police. I am just not going to put it through my insurance. There is no doubt as to the fault of the Cabo for not posting watches and failing to slow down, at least 4 other boats in the inlet saw. The inlet is only a couple of hundred yards wide. It was clear that I was in a bad situation. You don't just lay across your engine for kicks and giggles.

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