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thrasher949 02-26-2019 08:42 AM

36V Trolling Motor VS Kicker
 
In the process of deciding which boat I am going to pick up, most likely a parker 2320 or a 23' center console. Both would be powered by a single outboard. I will be doing a lot of trips offshore and some trolling for yellowfin ect in So Cal. I want to put some type of trolling motor on to keep the hours down on the outboard and have the ability to get me out of a bad situation if it were to arise. Can a 36V trolling motor really troll a 23ft boat 6 mph? Here's the pros and cons of what I have found so far...

Kicker
Pro's
Plenty of power to troll the boat 5-6 mph
Can be pull started if batteries are dead and help recharge other batteries

Cons
No sea anchor function

36V Troller (bow mounted)
Pros
Sea Anchor/GPS lock and jog

Cons
3 extra batteries

briclark904 02-26-2019 08:52 AM

Big con of the trolling motor is that battery life, especially at 6mph, will be very limited. It MIGHT be able to maintain 6mph but probably not into a strong current or wind. Are you thinking transom or bow mounted? Edit, I see bow mount. For trolling in a decent chop, your motor might not stay in the water either.

The big pro, like you mentioned, is the anchor feature of the trolling motor but for your uses (primarily trolling it sounds like) and for safety, the kicker makes more sense

thrasher949 02-26-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by briclark904 (Post 12281798)
Big con of the trolling motor is that battery life, especially at 6mph, will be very limited. It MIGHT be able to maintain 6mph but probably not into a strong current or wind. Are you thinking transom or bow mounted? Edit, I see bow mount. For trolling in a decent chop, your motor might not stay in the water either.

The big pro, like you mentioned, is the anchor feature of the trolling motor but for your uses (primarily trolling it sounds like) and for safety, the kicker makes more sense

Trolling motor would be bow mounted for the sea anchor to work. We get a lot of 15kn wind in the afternoons. How does the charging of those batteries work? Can they be charged off the 12V battery or require a separate 110V charger?

Bassmantweed 02-26-2019 11:27 AM

You'd have about 45 minutes on a trolling motor. I found the trolling motor pretty much only good for anchoring while offshore.

jerryclaybrook 02-26-2019 12:32 PM

No way can the 36v push you at 6 mph maybe 4 under best conditions. Get a kicker for true trolling and to get you out of trouble. The 36V really requires a dedicated AC charger. The 36V is really only good for anchoring and slowly moving the boat along shore or a slow drift.

hensleyfish 02-26-2019 12:38 PM

I've also been told running them wide open non stop is bad for trolling motors. I have a 110 on my 16' skiff and you can almost ski behind it running full steam.

jvoisel 02-26-2019 12:45 PM

No way you will see 6mph from the trolling motor. You need a kicker to do that.

The GPS trolling motor will probably do 3mph but mainly shine using the spot lock feature - if you fish at anchor a lot.

jerryclaybrook 02-26-2019 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by hensleyfish (Post 12282585)
I've also been told running them wide open non stop is bad for trolling motors. I have a 110 on my 16' skiff and you can almost ski behind it running full steam.

I have a 23 ft. Bay boat which is probably lighter and has less wind resistance than the op 23 ft CC. You won't be doing any sking behind that boat with a tm. I have an 80 lb 24 V and the best in a no wind condition I can do is about 2.8 mph. I don't think there is any harm in running the tm at top speed but the batteries will deplete very quickly. It is not a practical alternative to a kicker for the use the op has described.

Sammer Eye 02-26-2019 12:52 PM

Trolling motors have some pretty slick features these days. But in a dire circumstance, a kicker motor could get you back to the dock.

bsh102 02-26-2019 03:08 PM

I have a 36v trolling motor on a 25 bay boat and it will move it at about 4 mph tops with full batteries and ligh load. A 6mph cruise not happening with a trolling motor.

mbowers 02-26-2019 09:09 PM

You can also run the main motor and use the TM as well for its auto pilot.

6mph is pretty fast for a kicker, might get better fuel economy from the main.

But if your main goal is less hours on the main, then kicker is the way to go.
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I certainly won't have a boat in that size range without a TM..

Appleman 02-27-2019 06:01 AM

TM/Kicker
 
Lots of experience with 36V and fairly large boats, 21-23. Great for lots of applications, but wont do what you want. A popular combo on the Great Lakes for salmon trolling at a fair speed, 3.5-4, is to lock a kicker straight forward, use the bow mount with autopilot to steer. Will only need level 2-3 for this, batteries last all day.
Even a 15 hp kicker will top out about 6 mph, hull speed

Jumpsummo 02-27-2019 06:07 AM

What you are saying is you need twins. No the TM is not your ride home especially without an engine to help charge the batteries. The kicker can help trolling and backing up the single. It might even pull start and charge battery enough to start the larger engine.

Out there I want to real engines and at no time are both shut down.


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