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2002 27 Ocean Master - Re-power w/ Suzuki 300's

Old 02-20-2019, 08:22 PM
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Default 2002 27 Ocean Master - Re-power w/ Suzuki 300's

I'm ready to repower my 2002 Ocean Master 27 (not Skiff) with bracket. It's currently powered with Yamaha 200 HPDIs and tops out around 50mph. Length is 26'11", Beam 8'6", Deadrise 20, Fuel 200, weight with engines 6,500lbs. 200 HPDI weighs 475 lbs. Mark Haupner (builder) suggested a pair of 250's, with a top end of 60mph.
I want four strokes as I spend a lot of time following dive flags and running to the Bahamas. The new Mercury V-8's look really attractive at 505 lbs... any harm in going with the new 300's? Yamaha F250 -300's seem to be the next lightest engines.. Fortunately I live in Pompano, FL, near many great Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda dealers, will definitely buy and service locally. Seeking advice on the repower. Would love to hear from others who have repowered their Ocean Master 27.

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Old 02-21-2019, 05:03 AM
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There is a company in Edgewater, Fl (Superior Marine Industries) that has done numerous OM refurb's and as I was told by the owner he use to rig most of the OM in New Jersey many years ago. I'm pretty sure it was OM's, but he said all of his refurb's were Zuke's.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:14 PM
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The 300 mercs more power less weight. Hard to look elsewhere.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ubettcha13 View Post
The 300 mercs more power less weight. Hard to look elsewhere.
This is true, if you can wait the year or so for them to arrive.

OP, both Yamaha and Merc are having supply issues right now for repowers. Realistically, if you want motors now and are not considering Evinrude, I would suggest the 200AP Zukes (assuming you are reasonably satisfied with your current power). The bigger Zukes add a lot of weight.
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Originally Posted by Texas 17 View Post
This is true, if you can wait the year or so for them to arrive.

OP, both Yamaha and Merc are having supply issues right now for repowers. Realistically, if you want motors now and are not considering Evinrude, I would suggest the 200AP Zukes (assuming you are reasonably satisfied with your current power). The bigger Zukes add a lot of weight.
Yamaha does not have supply issue's now for D,E,C Engines, at least not in my world.

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Is that including the v6 250 and 300s? I thought those were still backlogged? Good options for the OP if not.

If itís the 200s, thatís true I should have included those alongside the Zukes.
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Originally Posted by Texas 17 View Post
Is that the v6 250 and 300s? Iím not sure which are DEC.

If itís the 200s, thatís true I should have included those alongside the Zukes.
Just about everything is available in Electronic.
F1 fities, F200's, F225's, F2Fities, F300's, F3Fities, F425's.
Mechanical F225, F250's, F300's are tight, very tight.
White from Yamaha is tight.
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I stand corrected. A pair of f250s would be very nice on that rig.
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I have a 93 27 foot Ocean master no bracket. I Repowered in 2016 with etec g2s and have been happy with the repower. I went from 200 hp optimax to 200 ho g2s. The new mercury's are about 40 to 50 lbs lighter per motor than the g2s.
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G2 200 HO , 225 or 250 HO G2's would be great on that boat.

Arent they running the 10 year warranty now and unlimited hours in Florida?
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:23 AM
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Thanks, I'll call them and see if the extra weight changed the balance of the boat...
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Originally Posted by Texas 17 View Post
I stand corrected. A pair of f250s would be very nice on that rig.
The Yamaha's are definitely in the running, there is a great family run Yamaha dealer nearby. Wondering if F300's would be even better...??
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Originally Posted by caribbeancowboy View Post
The Yamaha's are definitely in the running, there is a great family run Yamaha dealer nearby. Wondering if F300's would be even better...??
If the boat is rated for it, who ever said "Mo Power" is not "Mo Betta".
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i never understood why people would choose a 225 or a 250 when the 300 is the same engine same weight. price is the only difference isnt it?
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Originally Posted by njk4o5 View Post
i never understood why people would choose a 225 or a 250 when the 300 is the same engine same weight. price is the only difference isnt it?
The 300 Yamaha requires 89 octane. The 250 doesn't. The 250 puts out around 260HP the 300 is 296 HP.

The midrange is almost identical numbers between the two. 1 to 2 mph difference generally speaking . WOT is 2 to 3 mph Difference. Atleast what I have seen.

With twins probably 2 to 3 mph difference all through the RPM range.

For resale and cool factor the 300's are a better choice. Plus they normally around 1,500 to 1,700 dollars difference in price for a single motor. So cheap HP and they weigh the same.
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Iíd stick to twins. If you are making long runs, that extra motor could save your life.
I repowered my intrepid with twin zuke 200s and the $/performance is hard to beat. I looked at all options and I think I made the right choice. Im 2 years in and would still make the same choice.
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After a lot of research on outboard manufacturers and local shops, I decided to go to with Suzuki and Outboard Specialties (Mike & Mike). They were not the lowest price in town, but they were highly recommended by many of my friends who have re-powered their boats at Outboard Specialties. To me, professional expertise with re-powering boats, customer service and reputation in the community is very important and worth paying a little extra for. I was not disappointed.

Little Mike and Trent met with me and took time to discuss the motor selection, layout of my dash and switches. They have a CNC Machine, so they can create custom dash panels. They recommended going with a flat black instrument panel to match my gauge panel, locating the key switch and trolling control on the existing switch panel, and avoiding mounting any controls on the flat surface of the console to avoid water leaks and damage to the controls. Again, its nice to have this kind of guidance when re-powering your boat.

The next step was taking the boat to the ramp and checking to see if the added weight of twin Suzuki 300's would negatively affect the boat. Little Mike (one of the owners) and I (about 450 lbs) sat on the existing Yamaha 200 HPDI's and looked at the scuppers.... still above water, and the new engines combined are only about 200 more pounds, so no problem!! Next, Mike recommended replacing my 17 year old Hynautic steering with a new SeaStar unit. Again, good advice. We also discussed moving the rigging tubs more inward to avoid being stepped on by divers and having a fiberglass repair of the existing holes in the transom and oil fill holes in the center console.

The next day Trent called me about the Suzuki financing offer and I was quickly approve at a great interest rate. We also scheduled my boat for the re-power for the following week. Just as promised, they were ready to start on my boat. After dropping it off, they compression checked the old engines and checked the lower unit fluid. The compression check was good, the lower units were low and a little milky, most likely they need new prop seals. I passed this information on to Mario, who is purchasing my Yamaha engines, rigging, and old steering. (Outboard Specialties also has a buyer who will buy them at wholesale, but Trent suggested selling them online to get a better price).

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Nice looking rig. I hope to find a well loved 27' OM some day.
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