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Old 02-24-2019, 06:31 AM
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I am not a fan of the unnecessary boarding. I have a 28' CC and I was chased down by a huge Cutter last year between Bimini and Lauderdale. They did not board us, but with the answers provided we should have been on our way in 2 minutes. Additionally, we had more safety equipment than is required in plain sight.. After 25 minutes of sitting in the sun in the middle of the Gulf Stream they sent us on our way. I thanked the guy for his service over the radio and he was too cool to respond. I did not feel like a free citizen of a free nation at that time. I was stopped for no reason, kept for what felt like an unnecessary amount of time, and spoken to like I was under investigation with absolutely no regard for my time. I get they may have had nothing else to do at the time, but I did.

IMO, saving a boater in distress is the job. I certainly do not think it is a justification to harass someone who isn't bothering a sole. I don't care if they watch me from a far, but giving them the authority to pull me over because it's a slow day is heading down a dangerous road I don't wish to be on.
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Old 02-24-2019, 06:43 AM
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I'm gonna name my next boat "Violating the 4th" That way, I can reply back, sure, come aboard "violating the 4th", or, on their paperwork, vessel name: violating the 4th.
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Old 02-24-2019, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by David Williams View Post
I am not a fan of the unnecessary boarding. I have a 28' CC and I was chased down by a huge Cutter last year between Bimini and Lauderdale. They did not board us, but with the answers provided we should have been on our way in 2 minutes. Additionally, we had more safety equipment than is required in plain sight.. After 25 minutes of sitting in the sun in the middle of the Gulf Stream they sent us on our way. I thanked the guy for his service over the radio and he was too cool to respond. I did not feel like a free citizen of a free nation at that time. I was stopped for no reason, kept for what felt like an unnecessary amount of time, and spoken to like I was under investigation with absolutely no regard for my time. I get they may have had nothing else to do at the time, but I did.

IMO, saving a boater in distress is the job. I certainly do not think it is a justification to harass someone who isn't bothering a sole. I don't care if they watch me from a far, but giving them the authority to pull me over because it's a slow day is heading down a dangerous road I don't wish to be on.
They have several jobs. To me, stopping you from Bimini from Lauderdale IS one of their primary jobs, as you're coming from a foreign county. Even if you're a registered US vessel, they have no idea of your intent until they talk to you or inspect the vessel. To me, that might also warrant having weapons available, as they really have no idea of the people on the vessel or their intent. I have NO problem with them stopping similar vessels if they feel there is any need.

The "safety checks" is a completely different function. It should be a COURTESY check fully knowing you are inconveniencing a citizen who is likely a completely law-abiding one. There should be NO reason to treat them like they are the enemy, like they are a suspect, or like they are guilty until/unless you have SOME probable cause.

The "saving a boater in distress" is again a completely different job.

I don't have ANY problem supporting their need to be fully equipped to handle any of their missions at any time, but utilize those assets appropriately. They need to be prepared in all cases because it's the same guys and same boats that handle many of the varied missions within their responsibilities. Brandishing arms when doing a typical safety check is as abusive, if not more, than needing a fleet of 215' cutters to pull over ski boats for safety checks.
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:53 AM
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I dont like the idea of having to clean anybodys boot marks off my boat. I'm not a fucking maid. And waiting a year to be reimbursed for damage is ridiculous .
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CruiseToFish View Post
I'm gonna name my next boat "Violating the 4th" That way, I can reply back, sure, come aboard "violating the 4th", or, on their paperwork, vessel name: violating the 4th.
lol I love it
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:15 PM
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What is the rule on alcohol? Can you have a few beers on board, or do you need to be completely "dry" to be in compliance?
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:57 PM
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I was going to be boarded by the Coast Guard until they saw my courtesy inspection sticker and waved me off.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:00 PM
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I have a good story. Quite a few years back I was heading out the channel with my wife and two daughters. My daughters both in their twenties, shapely and wearing bikinis were sitting on the front console seat.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by longislandboater View Post
What is the rule on alcohol? Can you have a few beers on board, or do you need to be completely "dry" to be in compliance?
Same as Land. .08

At least that's what I'm told

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Old 02-24-2019, 01:13 PM
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What about open containers on board?
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:39 PM
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Seems like theres no way to get away ....... I want a boat because it seems like the only way to get away from people. Will be like heaven to just sit out in the middle of the water away from everything and have a few beers. ....Then all of a sudden blue lights!...."do you have any fire arms on board?'.... "Yeah, the gun I'm gonna blow my brains out with because I cant find a place on the planet to get any peace"
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:44 PM
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[Why are you dumbing used oil at all. In NJ gas stations are required by law to take it. And many towns take oil to recycle it free.

On another note I did not think and was told by the USCG they have no enfircement authority to make an arrest for drunk boating. They call state authorities because feds can only enforce federal laws and there is no federal law on boating while intoxicated for non USCG licensed operators. That change?


aqaQUOTE=CruiseToFish;12261682]I always enjoy having everything in perfect order so they can't ticket me on anything, then while my 4th amendment rights are being violated, I usually try to lighten the mood by asking if I really have to go 200 miles to intl waters to dump my used oil out or can I just dump it in my head and have it pumped out at the marina, from the earth, back to the earth is my motto I say.[/QUOTE]
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by marvinca View Post
I was going to be boarded by the Coast Guard until they saw my courtesy inspection sticker and waved me off.
That's encouraging to hear!
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:25 PM
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Time on the water for me is precious due to my work schedule. I find it annoying that every time I see a Coast Guard vessel that I have to wonder if I am going to have to delay my fishing activities due to an inspection, which happens about four times a year where I boat. The officers that patrol my area are all young, gung ho, and have a chip on there shoulder. I guess growing up they probably were not good at sports or good with the lady's so this is there opportunity to be a big shots. It should be illegal to board me without probable cause. When I'm on the water I feel like I'm boating in the Soviet Union.
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:42 PM
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That's encouraging to hear!

how do you know that? As opposed to profiling and you dont fit it?
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FisherforHim View Post

You intentionally had the CG diddle your 10 year old kid and his friends?? Geez, sounds like great fun.
Not sure what you mean by "diddle"? It was innocent and great fun. Just last week, that now 27 year old, told the story at dinner to some new friends and we all had a great laugh.
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:47 PM
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[QUOTE=NJBoatingCollege;12276326][Why are you dumbing used oil at all. In NJ gas stations are required by law to take it. And many towns take oil to recycle it free.

i am going to guess they don't teach sarcasm at college.

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Old 02-24-2019, 03:53 PM
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Here in Australia they stand off and have a chat, show them a few items and have a coherent conversation and you are done in 5 minutes. Mind you this is not the land of the free...
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:59 PM
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Some serious girl scouts in this thread. First world problems...my boat got a black boot scuff and his gun was so big and scary. Pansies
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Old 02-24-2019, 04:00 PM
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Friday, 12 noon, I bought a new (to me) boat. Get a quick lesson in operating it from the previous owner, discover its easier than twin outboards and set out on the ICW (Fort Lauderdale area) get down to the port where the cruise ships are, get boarded. I've owned the boat maybe 2 hours at this point.

Coasties were courteous and respectful of our boat. We were missing the waste discharge placard but they just said to get one. No fuss over anything, no hard time, no big deal. Didn't care that I had a title signed 2 hours prior or an out of state license.

Then again, I don't roll with a chip on my shoulder or be an a hole for no reason. Shoot, we were already in a no wake zone, so they didn't even impede my progress down the ICW. If you encounter an issue when boarded, you might need to look in the mirror and ask questions.
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