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Old 02-19-2019, 11:03 AM
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Default Now that the 400 Vrod is available in non R trim...anyone planning this?

Seems like for quick and affordable speed, the Fountain 31 and 29 are available. Also for some beam and speed you can score a 32 for not a boat load of cash.

I would wager that all three of these hulls would fly with 800 hp on the stern.

So, anyone is planning on doing these repower?

Just being curious
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Yeah I plan on putting one on my 23 seacraft. But right now my 250 vrod runs too sweet, so I figured if anything major happens at this point, being she a 2005 , then bolt up the 400. I’m already smartcraft DTS rigged. Should be a 60 mph seacraft! Running 46-48 now with the 250.
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What is the main difference between the hopped up 350 (400) vs the R 400, other than the Sport Master lower unit and price ?
Old 02-19-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Berky View Post
What is the main difference between the hopped up 350 (400) vs the R 400, other than the Sport Master lower unit and price ?
You can get any lower you want on either. The main difference is in the calibration, production 400 is 6800 redline and the R is 7K.
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I just don't get why anyone would go V400 over V350 (if they're not racing). My understanding is the power curves are identical and the extra 50hp only comes above 6400 RPMs via the V400 (or 400R) being flashed to rev higher (6800 for V400 7000 for 400R). Do people really spend much time running at mid-6Ks RPMs? What am I missing? I mean, if you're getting exactly the same engine performance all the way up to 6400 RPMs, why pay 15%-20% more per engine just to be able to push it a little higher and eek out a few more mph at WOT? Seems weird to me that anyone is interested in that. Perhaps I'm wrong and the V400 does actually have more power than the V350 lower in the RPM range, but I have not seen that documented anywhere.
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Originally Posted by FlyfisherJHR View Post
I just don't get why anyone would go V400 over V350 (if they're not racing). My understanding is the power curves are identical and the extra 50hp only comes above 6400 RPMs via the V400 (or 400R) being flashed to rev higher (6800 for V400 7000 for 400R). Do people really spend much time running at mid-6Ks RPMs? What am I missing? I mean, if you're getting exactly the same engine performance all the way up to 6400 RPMs, why pay 15%-20% more per engine just to be able to push it a little higher and eek out a few more mph at WOT? Seems weird to me that anyone is interested in that. Perhaps I'm wrong and the V400 does actually have more power than the V350 lower in the RPM range, but I have not seen that documented anywhere.
Why would anyone buy a 200 Yamaha instead of a 150 Yamaha? 200 actually takes longer to plane and is only like 2mph faster on the top end. The reason is, bigger numbers on the back look better.
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Originally Posted by Berky View Post
What is the main difference between the hopped up 350 (400) vs the R 400, other than the Sport Master lower unit and price ?
The new 400m is about 403 HP with full 8 year warranty - this motor spools to 6800
The 400R pushes 413ish HP and only has 5-6yrs warranty - this motor spools to 7000
400M is about $900 cheaper per motor
- Been working with undisclosed manufacture on finalizing a build & asked all these questions
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Originally Posted by FlyfisherJHR View Post
I just don't get why anyone would go V400 over V350 (if they're not racing). My understanding is the power curves are identical and the extra 50hp only comes above 6400 RPMs via the V400 (or 400R) being flashed to rev higher (6800 for V400 7000 for 400R). Do people really spend much time running at mid-6Ks RPMs? What am I missing? I mean, if you're getting exactly the same engine performance all the way up to 6400 RPMs, why pay 15%-20% more per engine just to be able to push it a little higher and eek out a few more mph at WOT? Seems weird to me that anyone is interested in that. Perhaps I'm wrong and the V400 does actually have more power than the V350 lower in the RPM range, but I have not seen that documented anywhere.
Because my 400r’s outrun buddy’s 350’s on the same boat. End of story.
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Originally Posted by tripsTOquads View Post
The new 400m is about 403 HP with full 8 year warranty - this motor spools to 6800
The 400R pushes 413ish HP and only has 5-6yrs warranty - this motor spools to 7000
400M is about $900 cheaper per motor
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Interesting given that Merc certifies to CARB that the 400 R makes 390 HP as Rated Power at 6995 RPM and 400 makes 384 HP as Rated Power at 6799 RPM.

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I bought the 350 this weekend and they told me I had a five year warranty so why would it have the same warranty as the 400R while the 400M is longer?
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Originally Posted by VaporTrail1 View Post
I bought the 350 this weekend and they told me I had a five year warranty so why would it have the same warranty as the 400R while the 400M is longer?
You can now get 8 total years of warranty on the Verado 400R engines!
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I’m one of the guys that was hoping for a big HP V8 to be revealed at the MIBS but is now seriously looking at the 400 non R Verados. They sure look tempting to me and the V8’s will have a few years on the curve that the Vrods already went through.
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Originally Posted by tripsTOquads View Post
The new 400m is about 403 HP with full 8 year warranty - this motor spools to 6800
The 400R pushes 413ish HP and only has 5-6yrs warranty - this motor spools to 7000
400M is about $900 cheaper per motor
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I bought the 350 this weekend and they told me I had a five year warranty so why would it have the same warranty as the 400R while the 400M is longer?
The new 400 and the 350 have 3 years of factory (Platinum) coverage and 2 years of promotional Gold (mechanical items) coverage. Those 2 years can be upgraded to Platinum and then 3 more years of Platinum coverage can be purchased for a total of 8 years of warranty coverage.

The 400R isn’t included in the promotional warranty program that is going until March 31. It comes with 3 years of factory coverage and then 5 years of Platinum coverage can be purchased for 8 total years of warranty coverage.
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I want twin 400's on my SeaCat!
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Originally Posted by midcap View Post
I want twin 400's on my SeaCat!
More shade for the goats?

My wife runs a graphics business on the side, I'll have her print up some new decals for your Johnnyrudes, with a 5 year non declining warranty
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Oh, I mistook his "has" for "can buy".
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Na, sticking with my 350.

If anything I'll trade my 350 in for the new 300 and a porta bracket...
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Default Octane

What's the octane requirements on the 400& R. I can only get 90octane, does that automatically cut my power to like the 300 or so?
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What’s the price difference between the verado 350 and 400non-R?
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Originally Posted by ALL OUT View Post
What’s the price difference between the verado 350 and 400non-R?
cost difference was about $3500 per motor when I checked.

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