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Old 02-17-2019, 01:15 PM
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Ďas a Brit, the above post is profound, and no offence but Iím afraid to say, we do think the good old boys are mentally retarded.

I also know the US will never rid itself of the gun scourge. Never. And the pointless shootings will go on. Very sad.
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Iola, thank you for expressing your opinion on the guns (which I patently disagree with) and I welcome your perspective from the outside looking in. Your comment on the good ol' boys I'm afraid I don't understand what your saying. I am disheartened by your comment that you somewhat regret piping up with your thoughts, realizing in retrospect your unpopular stance, and the flogging by us Yanks you'll have to endured. "Into the breach" say I, and stiff upper lip, all.

May I commend you on expressing your (misguided) opinion in a manner which neither condescended in tone nor diminished in content. I read your thoughts, disagreed, then noticed the unusual lack of snarkiness. May I salute you and add, "Well done!".

I doubt I may change your mind about our "lack of gun control", and don't really care to when it comes right down to it. But I would like for you to understand why we are so bloody minded about the right to keep and bear arms. Think about how proud you are about your British history. Common Law, Magna Carta, Protestant Reformation, Naval achievements, glory of empire, etc. Now think of Americans and what they have done (relative to the gun topic). We accomplished the unthinkable - we defeated the world's Superpower of the day, Great Britain, and established conditions for self determination as a nation. Heady stuff. It was all possible because our society consisted of an armed citizenry. We like that. It is powerful and we wish to retain that power of action, and will absorb a lot of pain to ensure it - the real Americans that is.

I greatly admire the Brits, more so who they were and what past greatness they achieved as a people, rather than what your society has allowed anti-colonialism to dump on your nation, and how GB's national fabric has been for changed for the worse, in my humble opinion. You may or may not agree with my assessment, but again, that is a reflection from the outside looking in, and I do not intend to offend.

As you see sadness in America's mass shootings, I also feel sadness for your country and for what the British people themselves have allowed to happen to their country. Poorly done, poorly done indeed.

Cheers to better times, T.

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Old 02-17-2019, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
the left is deeply dug in and willing to say anything to remove guns from law abiding citizens...
Things don't need to be "Left" or "Right" How about just some plain old common sense once in a while?

While I've voted "Right" on more than one occasion, most on here would probably consider me a "Leftist Snowflake" for many of my opinions.

However, I like my guns and the freedoms this country allows us in that regard. If you're going to try to convince me otherwise, at least get your shit straight and don't contradict yourself 5 sentences down as this article does. This is just poor journalism, no matter what side you're on or how you look at it.
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Things don't need to be "Left" or "Right" How about just some plain old common sense once in a while?

While I've voted "Right" on more than one occasion, most on here would probably consider me a "Leftist Snowflake" for many of my opinions.

However, I like my guns and the freedoms this country allows us in that regard. If you're going to try to convince me otherwise, at least get your shit straight and don't contradict yourself 5 sentences down as this article does. This is just poor journalism, no matter what side you're on or how you look at it.
maybe you would have been more satisfied with "liberal" then...because there is a defined line of attack from "a side" no matter where you stand...and its origin isnt difficult to identify...sorry if i triggered you...

you may want to make sure your voice is heard with your left leaning cohorts...as your silence is deafening at this point...
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
how many times have you used your fire extinguisher to save your boat?...it is better to have something and not need it than to need something and not have it...there are situations where a gun could come in handy, though far and few between....the effort involved in bringing one along is minimal for anyone with any gun experience...
A fire extinguisher doesn't pose a significant hazard even if some kid or drunk friend gets hold of it.
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your agenda is one of strict denial and mockery of anyone who thinks differently than yourself...
If you want to flame someone for not respecting the opinions of others, reply to the comment that referred to "level of stupidity being shown" by people who held different opinions from the poster.
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the op asked a simple question and many have offered sound advice...you, on the other hand, were just waiting for an opportunity to express your lack of open mindedness and make hurtful, yet creative, negative statements...
I gave useful advice in a bulleted (no pun intended) list of sound advice covering security, storage, maintenance, guests on board the boat, and encounters with USCG and law enforcement.
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thanks for the sage advice...after all, law enforcement is just a short vhf radio call away....right?...
I didn't assert that no one (or everyone) should carry a gun on board, so pour yourself some decaf and reread what I wrote.
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the left is deeply dug in and willing to say anything to remove guns from law abiding citizens...
I am part of "the left" and a law abiding citizen. I also own multiple rifles, handguns, and a shotgun. I have a range pass for the NRA headquarters range, where I recently sighted in a scope on a new rifle.

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Old 02-17-2019, 01:59 PM
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maybe you would have been more satisfied with "liberal" then...because there is a defined line of attack from "a side" no matter where you stand...and its origin isnt difficult to identify...sorry if i triggered you...

you may want to make sure your voice is heard with your left leaning cohorts...as your silence is deafening at this point...
Nah, man! No triggering here, just stating what I'm thinking. Didn't intend for my post to come off as confrontational, and if it did then I apologize. We're good!

Just seems to me everyone is classifying people as either "Left" or "Right", "Liberal" or "Conservative". I honestly have no idea where I fall in all this bullshit, and I feel both sides have their share of idiots.

And honestly, I shouldn't have to pick one side or the other. We need more options (no, not Bernie either), but this thread isn't the place for that discussion.

Back to the OP....

If you need a gun, chances are it's going to be needed quickly at close range. Your usual every day carry covers that. No one has time to pull out the scatter gun or AR on a boat deck, where every move you make is visible.

Now in a cabin boat off the coast of Somalia?? Where you have time to warn an approaching boat not to come any closer??

.50 BMG of course. Will stop any engine from a distance.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by homeby51 View Post
I'm thinking about getting a pump shotgun to keep in my console. I know several companies have thier version of a mariner gun. Any recommends?
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Hatsan Escort 12 gauge pump with marinecote about $200 . The Mossberg Just in case if money is no object
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Iola, thank you for expressing your opinion on the guns (which I patently disagree with) and I welcome your perspective from the outside looking in. Your comment on the good ol' boys I'm afraid I don't understand what your saying. I am disheartened by your comment that you somewhat regret piping up with your thoughts, realizing in retrospect your unpopular stance, and the flogging by us Yanks you'll have to endured. "Into the breach" say I, and stiff upper lip, all.

May I commend you on expressing your (misguided) opinion in a manner which neither condescended in tone nor diminished in content. I read your thoughts, disagreed, then noticed the unusual lack of snarkiness. May I salute you and add, "Well done!".

I doubt I may change your mind about our "lack of gun control", and don't really care to when it comes right down to it. But I would like for you to understand why we are so bloody minded about the right to keep and bear arms. Think about how proud you are about your British history. Common Law, Magna Carta, Protestant Reformation, Naval achievements, glory of empire, etc. Now think of Americans and what they have done (relative to the gun topic). We accomplished the unthinkable - we defeated the world's Superpower of the day, Great Britain, and established conditions for self determination as a nation. Heady stuff. It was all possible because our society consisted of an armed citizenry. We like that. It is powerful and we wish to retain that power of action, and will absorb a lot of pain to ensure it - the real Americans that is.

I greatly admire the Brits, more so who they were and what past greatness they achieved as a people, rather than what your society has allowed anti-colonialism to dump on your nation, and how GB's national fabric has been for changed for the worse, in my humble opinion. You may or may not agree with my assessment, but again, that is a reflection from the outside looking in, and I do not intend to offend.

As you see sadness in America's mass shootings, I also feel sadness for your country and for what the British people themselves have allowed to happen to their country. Poorly done, poorly done indeed.

Cheers to better times, T.
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The rights outlined in our Bill of Rights were not just pulled from the air. They were written in blood from direct experience in dealing with the British Crown. So for that, I suppose we owe the British Government a big thank you.

Once our government finds a way to eliminate one right because it is "inconvenient", they could (and probably would) act to eliminate ANY of the others it found inconvenient (in the interest of public safety of course).

You Brits gave up control of your own healthcare. You gave up you sovereignty to the EU. You gave up your right to defend yourselves as individuals (no castle doctrine at home, no real right to defend yourself in public, almost anything can be classified as an "offensive weapon"). You never really had the right to bear arms. Your government's mass surveillance system has basically ended privacy from government intrusion. If anything, history has repeatedly shown that absolute power corrupts, absolutely. So, when the government becomes intolerable, all you are left with is to ask politely to be allowed to live.

While gun violence is almost unheard of in China, the Chinese government has killed millions of it's own people. Even now, it rates citizen's obedience to the party and uses this grade in granting rights and priveleges. I think I am content to hope for the best over here.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:48 PM
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People, y'all are missing the point, he asked for carry gun suggestions, no one asked for any of y'all to go give permission for him to carry a firearm. Some people don't live in commie states....
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Originally Posted by Fatwilly View Post
Hatsan Escort 12 gauge pump with marinecote about $200 . The Mossberg Just in case if money is no object
Wasn't familiar with that one. I found the Escort MarineGuard for about $330 brand new. I see that it's made in Turkey, but I can't complain about that when I have a Mauser rifle made in Yugoslavia and a Makarov handgun made in Russia.
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I have 9MM model 39 and , and an air weight 38 smith 642. Both with hydrashok ammo. The revolver is my everyday carry. I am old school. (and have had self defense trailing from a police instructor)
For my suggestion for a carry gun for a newbie: Get an air weight 38. Revolvers are easier to learn, have enough fire power to stop the bad guy, and are safer. The double action trigger is a bit heavy, but if you need it you will not fire it accidently. ANd practice itj at a range, and get an instructor the first time. Some will say to get a 9 MM with a high capacity mag. but FBI studies say if you don't get him in 2-3 shots, he's got you. Lastly. get a weapon what you can conceal. I am a smaller man (5-7) and carry a small frame revolver.


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I work in Federal Law Enforcement, many responses in this thread have really made me shake my head in disbelief at the level of stupidity being shown. I grew up in FL, family were and still are involved in commercial and sport fishing. A boat gun or guns were always part of the gear check. Nothing has changed over the years that would convince me not to have a gun onboard, actually things have gotten worse in the past few years. Take a good look at the amount of pirating, drug running and other boat thefts along our southern border coasts. Not having a gun onboard in these areas especially is putting your family and you in serious danger.
Unless your living on your boat or on it, then any truly intelligent responsible gun owner will take it home with them, not leave it stored onboard ! Proper cleaning/maintenance will keep any gun from corroding.

OP, several have suggested the 12ga in a tube, that is a good one to have, with some 00/000 buck and couple of slugs as follow ups. A handgun, quick access in a caliber that can punch holes (9mm and up) is a nice additional CC. I have had a marineSS 12ga for over 30 yrs, thats looks and performs like it did when first purchased. That I stash on my boats before launching, along with my CCW. I made a storage tube out of pvc for the 12gauge years ago.
If you are not familiar with shooting, then a lot of gun ranges, local LE, clubs etc.. offer low cost and often free handling classes.
Thanks. Honestly I gave up on this thread days ago because everyone wanted to play Dad and attempt to teach me about guns...although I grew up around them and have carried for decades. It's amazing what people think of themselves nowadays.
Again..thanks for putting it back on track and thanks to EVERYONE who actually contributed to the actual point of the thread. Rest assured I took your opinion seriously and as I said earlier I believe I have settled on the Mariner Pump
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I'm thinking about getting a pump shotgun to keep in my console. I know several companies have thier version of a mariner gun. Any recommends?
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Winchester 12 ga on bridge. Colt .45ACP in shoulder holster

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Honestly I gave up on this thread days ago because everyone wanted to play Dad and attempt to teach me about guns...although I grew up around them and have carried for decades.
The Internet is filled with people who are "thinking about getting a" gun, many of whom have no prior gun experience. I don't know why you expected everyone to know your experience level with firearms.
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It's amazing what people think of themselves nowadays.
It's amazing what you think people should already know about you.
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Thanks. - etc. - as I said earlier I believe I have settled on the Mariner Pump
Good choice.
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Even if you don't like guns and don't support the 2nd Amendment, the very fact that any law abiding citizen has the right to bear arms provides protection for those who choose not to.
Why? Because criminals don't know who's armed and who is not.
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I was just curious if this was the guy from the other post, asking about fishing with 3 felons, wondering if the fish and game would check licenses.
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A fire extinguisher doesn't pose a significant hazard even if some kid or drunk friend gets hold of it.

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yeah but imagine them getting ahold of the throttle on a 600 horsepower boat....what kind of stupid remark is yours?...nobody is asking anybody to leave a gun in short reach of a child or drunk here...dont let your own ignorance telegraph onto anyone with a modecom of common sense...more "common sense gun control measures"....guess we shoudl have seen this shit coming as soon as guns were brought up in public....
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Wow, guns and boats!

All kidding aside, me, for US waters, I donít carry anything unless Iím going skeet shooting off the boat.

Internationally, I would carry a 12 gauge. Marinecote Mossberg. Now some folks have some good points on gun safety etc... be proficient with one before you ever take it on the boat. (Proficient means you ran 500 rounds through it). Guns are dangerous, and guns on boats are even more dangerous. (Rollling decks and watersoaked ammo etc...)

Also, if you are carrying a firearm for protection, youíd better be comfortable killing someone with it if the situation merits it. Otherwise itís just a big liability that will most likely get you shot.

Either way, good luck and best wishes with the endeavor.
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