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Old 02-12-2019, 05:46 AM
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Default Coffin box on top of in deck box....

Obviously a pretty common sight.

Question, though and perhaps a dumb one. obviously would not be the first time for me so I'm not scared.

What good is in-deck hold if it's got a coffin box slap full of fish and ice strap down to the lid? Do folks fill up coffin box first and then permanently move it before going to work on the in deck box?
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:57 AM
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most often, I'd say people who have a coffin box end up using that for the fish and the in-deck box more for long term dry storage. Stuff that you only need on occasion. Or in my situation, neither of them get used for fish because I have an entirely separate in floor box that is used for that. Coffin box ends up being dry storage for everyday items. Floor ends up being storage for maintenance items, spare anchor rode, etc.
And also, many of those in floor box lids are on an actuator, so you just press a button and the whole thing opens, with the coffin box still attached.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
most often, I'd say people who have a coffin box end up using that for the fish and the in-deck box more for long term dry storage. Stuff that you only need on occasion. Or in my situation, neither of them get used for fish because I have an entirely separate in floor box that is used for that. Coffin box ends up being dry storage for everyday items. Floor ends up being storage for maintenance items, spare anchor rode, etc.
And also, many of those in floor box lids are on an actuator, so you just press a button and the whole thing opens, with the coffin box still attached.
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Actuator would certainly changed things to some extent, but seems like a long-term headache to me. I imagine for strictly fishing want to just use the one in DEC. Especially if it's in 200 damn gallons. I guess the coffin box would make a good sunbathing tab or day trips. Also nice ice storage for a Bahamas run or multiple day trip. Just doesn't seem as practical as one might would think it is considering how frequently you see that set up.

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Actuator would certainly changed things to some extent, but seems like a long-term headache to me. I imagine for strictly fishing want to just use the one in DEC. Especially if it's in 200 damn gallons. I guess the coffin box would make a good sunbathing tab or day trips. Also nice ice storage for a Bahamas run or multiple day trip. Just doesn't seem as practical as one might would think it is considering how frequently you see that set up.
I think the reason you see it so frequently is because most people would argue that it actually is MORE practical to have it.
To each their own.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:26 AM
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I have never liked in deck boxes to put green fish in. I feel like an open in deck box is a broken ankle waiting to happen when it's rough. Would much rather throw a fish in a coffin or transom box.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
I think the reason you see it so frequently is because most people would argue that it actually is MORE practical to have it.
To each their own.
Guess a lot would come down to how big in-deck is and how well insulated.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:31 AM
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I purposely chose to not get the coffin box put in my new boat. For my uses, I'd rather use the in-deck box and have a fully open bow. To each is their own, but I found that the in-deck box to be very well insulated and is the largest fish box on the boat. I anticipate using it as my primary fish box. There is also a secondary insulated smaller fish box that I will primarily use as ice storage and deep freeze bait storage. The in-deck storage on the bow of the new boat is plenty for my use. I felt like a coffin box was not necessary and the money was better spent elsewhere.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:44 AM
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I have a coffin box over my fish box.

The coffin box is by far where most of the people that fish on my boat like to fish. They can sit on it, lean on it, put tackle bags on it, etc... It is an insulated work bench/table in the middle of the boat that keeps beer ice cold. Would not own an offshore boat without one. My coffin box is the lid for the extremly large fish box below. Opening and closing it not much of a problem to slide fish in, even when my actuator broke we could still open the box with a coffin full of ice . My hull is foam filled, so indeck box is insulated with foam all around, then has a coffin box full of ice as a lid. The coffin box drains into the fish box, so we have ice cold water dripping down into the insulated fish box, it works so good will refreeze the ice when heading out on trips. Needless to say can hold ice for overnight trips in 100 degree heat after loading 1/2 ton of fish into it.
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In floor boxes make lots of sense, especially when you’re loading heavy fish. It’s one struggle to get them onboard, then a whole separate operation to lift them into a deck box.
Unfortunately most production boats sport rather small in deck boxes, which is why you see so many added on deck.
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We are currently building an Andros 32 for one day to 2 week long Bahamas runs. We played out the pros and cons of a fixed coffin box for months and finally decided to not install a fixed box. Instead we purchased 2 Engels. A 240 and a 123. We plan to fill the in deck box with ice and (when possible) keep fish in a fish bag inside that box. For long term trips, the 240 will be packed with ice to feed the in deck box. The 123 will be used on 1-2 day trips.

Wealso purchased the cushions for the Engels so they can double as loungers.

In in the end, having the ability to keep the front deck open is just too valuable. With the Engels, we can move them around as needed.
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:35 AM
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Its all about options amd how much fish you plan on keeping

Coores can attest to the fix boxes on my Conch from a Venice trip a few years back

We landed a 225# YFT first fish of the day and it would of filled the coffin box leaving little room for the rest of the day

Hit the hydraulic actuatior lift the coffin box and slide the YFT in the main fish box (set up to hold a 1k# BFT) then lower the coffin and fill for the rest of the day

The coffin can also be segmented and accessed much better so I can sort the catch throughout the trip.

Again its all about how you plan to use it but if you use your boat to fish they are hard to beat.
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Originally Posted by Trayder View Post
Its all about options amd how much fish you plan on keeping

Coores can attest to the fix boxes on my Conch from a Venice trip a few years back

We landed a 225# YFT first fish of the day and it would of filled the coffin box leaving little room for the rest of the day

Hit the hydraulic actuatior lift the coffin box and slide the YFT in the main fish box (set up to hold a 1k# BFT) then lower the coffin and fill for the rest of the day

The coffin can also be segmented and accessed much better so I can sort the catch throughout the trip.

Again its all about how you plan to use it but if you use your boat to fish they are hard to beat.
you mean this little guy?
yeah he didn't quite work well in that there coffin box.


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Originally Posted by Trayder View Post
Its all about options amd how much fish you plan on keeping

Coores can attest to the fix boxes on my Conch from a Venice trip a few years back

We landed a 225# YFT first fish of the day and it would of filled the coffin box leaving little room for the rest of the day

Hit the hydraulic actuatior lift the coffin box and slide the YFT in the main fish box (set up to hold a 1k# BFT) then lower the coffin and fill for the rest of the day

The coffin can also be segmented and accessed much better so I can sort the catch throughout the trip.

Again its all about how you plan to use it but if you use your boat to fish they are hard to beat.
Yeah... of course it depends on how big / well-insulated the in-deck boxes are. Thought I'd acknowledged that early on.

Had not considered the actuator function on some guy's boats. Personally, I wouldn't have a big CC that didn't have ample below deck space to ice off 1,000# of fish properly. Just scratched my head a little bit when I realized how often you see the above deck boxes up front. Guess it might just be that the boat design didn't allow for any real fish box space. If the boat did, I darn sure wouldn't have one on top of a lid... that's all. At least not the way I fish and how I like to manage ice.

I guess actuator would provide utility for both options. Without it, it's just silly if there's a real box underneath the topside one.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Panhandler80 View Post
Obviously a pretty common sight.

Question, though and perhaps a dumb one. obviously would not be the first time for me so I'm not scared.

What good is in-deck hold if it's got a coffin box slap full of fish and ice strap down to the lid? Do folks fill up coffin box first and then permanently move it before going to work on the in deck box?
Well my vessel has a coffin box sitting bolted down on top of in-deck storage. On a large CC yes a coffin box is a plus. When fighting fish around bow of vessel the coffin doesn't affect the fisherman. Also we use the in-deck storage for items that are not used on our trips unless something out of the normal happens. If you can fill my coffin box and my two rear in-deck fish boxes on my vessel you fish for free.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stingwray View Post
Well my vessel has a coffin box sitting bolted down on top of in-deck storage. On a large CC yes a coffin box is a plus. When fighting fish around bow of vessel the coffin doesn't affect the fisherman. Also we use the in-deck storage for items that are not used on our trips unless something out of the normal happens. If you can fill my coffin box and my two rear in-deck fish boxes on my vessel you fish for free.
How you doin', ol friend?

I still don't get the whole idea, though. In a perfect world (and yes I've compromised a LOT over the years in terms of ice mgmt.) I like to have most of my ice in one spot, and a cool fish hold in another spot... BOTH large, and then about 50% of one hold stowed elsewhere ice. Well, super perfect world, there's a slurry initial bath after coming on board (and bleeding no matter the species) but that's lottery talk there.

I guess if you iced off all your "dry box" in-decks and then layerd fish into the coffin it would make sense.

Just don't know why folks don't make the most of big holds that are in deck. All I can figure is that many of the in deck boxes aren't particularly large.

One good thing about above deck (having used them exclusively for 20 years), is that they are super easy to drain when appropriate. Nothing better than a 3 day trip with semi-frozen fish in full of color out of a box.
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My coffin box up front is a great thing. Typically dry storage as we're not too into pelagic fishing. Underneath that, I have a huge box with dual actuators in it to lift up the coffin and the lid for the in deck box. The in deck is more storage...I keep my long anchor line in there as well as the larger plow anchor among other items. If I was out there hunting tuna and other larger fish...I would likely use the coffin for ice and those fish. The only thing that sucks is where it drains....into the bilge basically. Quirky design IMO from Seacraft...pre Mako. All the coffin needs is a nice rubber seal around the perimeter of the lid and bingo...plenty of cold fish storage. I keep my fish in another deep hold...keeps them cold and plenty of room for big fluke or jumbo seabags or stripers.
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Great January we were fishing the gulf catching red grouper and B-liners. Well the gulf is kinda raw in February, so we are now fishing lakes in SWGA having a blast and catching some nice Largemouth bass.
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Great January we were fishing the gulf catching red grouper and B-liners. Well the gulf is kinda raw in February, so we are now fishing lakes in SWGA having a blast and catching some nice Largemouth bass.
As a whole I'd bank a fishable day out of here in Feb way before Jan. Glad you're getting them wherever you've decided to spend time. Awesome!

Looks like you'll dang sure out fish me this summer. I went from 13 knots to 0 knots. Hahahaha. ;-)
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Yeah... of course it depends on how big / well-insulated the in-deck boxes are. Thought I'd acknowledged that early on.

Had not considered the actuator function on some guy's boats. Personally, I wouldn't have a big CC that didn't have ample below deck space to ice off 1,000# of fish properly. Just scratched my head a little bit when I realized how often you see the above deck boxes up front. Guess it might just be that the boat design didn't allow for any real fish box space. If the boat did, I darn sure wouldn't have one on top of a lid... that's all. At least not the way I fish and how I like to manage ice.

I guess actuator would provide utility for both options. Without it, it's just silly if there's a real box underneath the topside one.
its a bit easier loading a coffin box vs in deck boxes too, no need to get on your knees to sort, remove, then clean the box. The coffin is just easier to deal with be filling it or removing stuff out of it. I would trade in deck storage for a coffin every time. The added support it gives you when going to the foredeck is an added bonus more so in a heavy seas or when stand up fishing the bow, its great for a rest, hand hold, or sit down.
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On a smaller boat I wouldn’t have a coffin box. By that I mean anything 31’ and under. It just gets in the way too much. On my old 31 Open Contender there was plenty of in floor space for everything, plus storage inside the console. I do have the Frigid Rigid coffin box on my 33T Contender because there is enough space in the bow that it doesn’t get in the way while fighting fish from the bow. It is also great for additional storage on long trips or overnighters. On boats bigger than 35ft the coffin box isn’t a compromise, it’s a luxury. It’s not needed but its a nice option. Mine is also on a hydrologist ram and it cane be opened (even when full) at the push of a button. Clean ice goes in the floor box right in front of the console. Beer and drinks go in the coffin and fish go in the rear boxes as well as under the coffin. Even on commercial AJ trips you won’t fill all the floor boxes and that’s 1500#’s worth of fish.
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