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Mobile Boat Show Rant

Old 02-09-2019, 07:04 PM
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Boat show thoughts and rant . . . It's amazing to see what has happened to the boat market over the last few years in this economy. A basic, run of the mill 23-25cc is running 60-100k. The best value seems to have moved to the 26-28' models as far as being the least inflated by this market. The mid grade cc market has a ton of competition tidewater, sea hunt, sea pro, key west, sportsman, nautical star, Robaldo, cobia. Noticeably absent was seafox from this years show. The new V series mercs seem very promising. Power to weight ratios well past anything we have seen with 4 strokes. The 425 yamaha is a monster! Was very excited for the 230 jp by twin vee this season but after speaking to the dealer it seems to be a flop. The trend of the high end one off catamarans is still rolling strong. Invincible brought their 40(seen before at flibs) and 37 which are just stunning and I would expect to see 4-5 more unveiled next weekend at Miami. Freeman has years of backlogs on the books so plenty of market share available. It's just a matter of time before a mid tier boat manufacturer (sea hunt, sea pro, tidewater, etc) starts producing a line of catamarans for the rest of us. Twin vee operates unchallenged in this realm right now but not very well and not for long. Their lone 260se look like a child took a hacksaw to the floor to add access to their tanks. Very disappointed.

Sailfish has finally made their way to the gulf coast. Their 270cc really impressed me with its steep dead rise, 400+ mile range, plenty of storage, basic electronics, twin 200 v series 4s mercs, and quality finishes for around 128,000 seemed far and away one of the best show deals in mobile. Until next week, fair winds everyone!

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Old 02-09-2019, 09:56 PM
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A buddy bought a Sea Pro 22 foot for 35K with Yammy and trailer back in 06. I thought that was some heavy bread!! I agree that inflation has really hit in the boat market.

Many consumer items get made overseas and we don't see that sort of inflation for example in televisions. I am not hoping that boats and outboards get made in China though. I just don't plan to buy a new boat ever!
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:22 AM
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I am SHOCKED at what boats cost now, this bubble will burst as well. However they would not be making them if they were not selling
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:30 AM
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Look at price of production , as well as theres no readily available money to finance boatbuilds in advance of purchase . Only the strong survive , and strength is in capital
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:49 PM
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Contender was missing for some reason. The amount of boats brands in the mid tear is over whelming. Good for buyers though. The Green gorilla Cape Fear seemed massive and impressive, however might have been slightly under powered with twin 350s for 35 feet. Was really impressed with the reinvented fountain center consoles. Proven hulls with nice features and lay outs. I really liked the 28 blue wave for a hybrid boat if your not wanting a twin engine rocky deep vee. Unbelievable amount quality boat for the money. Could lay down in the bilge the access was so huge. Unusual for a bay boat. Donít think I have ever stepped foot on a boat as solid as the 27 Stuart. Felt like it was made of granite.
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I really like the Cobia boats, but was really surprised to see the amount of flex on the rear floor fish box hatches on the 27 Cobia. Do agree the 27 sailfish was priced great, however unless they have changed the hull from the 26 it is a very wet boat. I felt like the sea hunt fit and finish looked pretty good for mid tear boats. Felt like they had 20 different hulls there.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:21 AM
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I was there Friday afternoon. I thought to gamefish SEA hunts to be priced high for a boat show. Nice boats but becoming a little dated on some things. I wish the 27 would come with the v6 200 mercury. I liked the sportsman 28 and the cobia but that's a lot of coin compared to others in the same range. I thought the 28xs nauticstar was a real nice boat and with 300s it would be a beast. The wife liked it the best although we didn't climb on the 270 Sail fish but I've also heard it is a wet ride, but have zero experience with it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:06 PM
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The boat market, both new and used does seem way out of control. But, I am a believer in the "market" in pretty much any industry. It will self correct at some point, or not! I did buy my first brand new boat (I'm 51) in Aug. 2018. I have owned boats for 30 yrs. I bought a 2018 Sportsman 232 Open with a 250 Yam for $62. Seems cheap compared to every one else's boat...But, its gonna have to do. Headed to Miami tomorrow to the show...lots to drool over.
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Was very excited for the 230 jp by twin vee this season but after speaking to the dealer it seems to be a flop.

I was at the show this morning helping a friend breakdown booth, was surprised the 230 Twin Vee had a sold sign on it. Didnít see what the show price was or how it was equipped.

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The most expensive boat there was the 43 Everglades at 1.1m. The winner overall for me was the Invincible 40 at 770k. Biggest crowd I have ever seen at this show.
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The most expensive boat there was the 43 Everglades at 1.1m. The winner overall for me was the Invincible 40 at 770k. Biggest crowd I have ever seen at this show.
I'm surprised that the 45(?) Nor-Tech wasn't more than that? What was the asking price for it?
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I'm surprised that the 45(?) Nor-Tech wasn't more than that? What was the asking price for it?
was thinking the same. I scared to touch the thing.
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Went to the Virginia Beach Boat Show this weekend and they had a Pontoon Boat For over $100,000. I also notice no Sea Fox boats.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamdancer View Post
Was very excited for the 230 jp by twin vee this season but after speaking to the dealer it seems to be a flop.

I was at the show this morning helping a friend breakdown booth, was surprised the 230 Twin Vee had a sold sign on it. Didnít see what the show price was or how it was equipped.

All I saw was the 260se. The 230 was supposed to be a single engine then they had to change to dual engines, then they had to add jack plates and paradise sales guy said they had yet to see the first one. I'm thinking of riding down to Miami to see if it shows up or not. That and I love looking at the high end cats I'll never be able to afford!
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RogueAngler View Post
I'm surprised that the 45(?) Nor-Tech wasn't more than that? What was the asking price for it?
The Nor Tec was a demo with 225 +/- hours on it. I believe it was just under 1.1 m ?
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The price of engines is also a killer. When you add rigging and tax you may as well start looking for a good used one. I am going to the show this week to dream and see how big they can make a center console and still be trailerable. I know it will make me keep my old cigarette with 300 e-tecs.
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