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Anyone running a Contender 23T w/Merc 4 stroke 150s?

Old 02-05-2019, 08:17 AM
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Default Anyone running a Contender 23T w/Merc 4 stroke 150s?

23T w/200 HPDIs, considering a repower soon, and while the new white Merc V6 200s would look perfect on the boat, not sure if they will fit in the budget. If I buy a pair of 150s I have money left over for an autopilot, fresh nonskid etc.

Anyone running a pair of these Merc 150s on a similar Contender? Iíve seen them on Conchs, Whitewatwers etc. but havenít seen any performance numbers.

I wonít drop down to a big single, Suzukiís in-line 4s are too heavy, and Yamaha F150s donít intrigue me unless the price is right. And no I donít want Etecs or any other two stroke, itís 2019 people 😂

All opinions or insight is appreciated!

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Old 02-05-2019, 08:21 AM
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The 150's will do a nice job but I personally would always wish i had gone with the new 200's.
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Why are you against going back to a big single outboard like a 300 or 350?
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Here are the specs for a 23ft BW Outrage (new hull design). this will give you an idea .... test boat weights in 5700 lbs and some change.

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Thanks all. Pretty good numbers, Iíd probably expect the Contender to be a little quicker and maybe more efficient than that BW. As long as I can fast cruise 40mph on nice days, Iím good. Top end speed is irrelevant for most offshore days in a relatively small boat.

I donít want a big single because I already have holes in the transom for twins, want to maintain redundancy, easier maneuvering, etc. Thatís all Iím gonna say, not looking for opinions or advice on twins vs singles.
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Originally Posted by Perf40 View Post
The 150's will do a nice job but I personally would always wish i had gone with the new 200's.
I agree that I would probably always want the 200s, but Iím a realist and sometimes you canít have it all. I found a nice detailed thread where a Comp 25 with Merc 150s was getting 54mph with 19p props and 2.4mpg at 40mph. I would be happier than a pig in shit with that performance.
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I just put Merc 150ís on the back of my CV and I donít regret it at all. I wanted the least amount of weight and they were quite a bit less on the price. The boat will touch low 50ís and there is a tone of bottom end with them. I donít have real numbers yet as they are still pretty new and I am working on different props. Not a direct comparison but I donít think you will be disappointed as they seem to have a pretty good track record.
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Originally Posted by 2_gator View Post
Thanks all. Pretty good numbers, I’d probably expect the Contender to be a little quicker and maybe more efficient than that BW. As long as I can fast cruise 40mph on nice days, I’m good. Top end speed is irrelevant for most offshore days in a relatively small boat.

I don’t want a big single because I already have holes in the transom for twins, want to maintain redundancy, easier maneuvering, etc. That’s all I’m gonna say, not looking for opinions or advice on twins vs singles.
Your real world performance will be nearly identical to the performance report posted above (Ive fished a 23/5T w 150 mercs). Id be curious to hear what your getting now for cruise speed and MPG as well as WOT.
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Originally Posted by truculenity View Post
Your real world performance will be nearly identical to the performance report posted above (Ive fished a 23/5T w 150 mercs). Id be curious to hear what your getting now for cruise speed and MPG as well as WOT.
Did you find they were a good match for the boat?

With 21p 3 blade SWS props it would run square all the way up to 5700 rpm/ 57mph. It would fall off plane under 30 mph so cruise was always in the mid-high 30s and realistically was always around 2.1-2.2. Thatís dividing speed by GPH on the Yamaha gauges, so not exact science.

I put 19p Rev 4s on it and it and cruise is now 4200 rpm/ 37mph or so. MPG the same, maybe a little worse around 1.9-2.0. WOT is around 53-54 but my RPMs are around 5400 now with the Rev 4s.

Iím not chasing ultimate performance with these as thereís a lot more variables with 14 year old motors.
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Overall, if your not looking for max speed, yes a very good match. I never saw the readout at full throttle in the river but was probably around 50. I do recall cruising at 40 most of the time weather permitting getting solidly over 2mpg. We fished with 4 people ice and livewell full and never thought the boat needed more.
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Updated--Competition 25 repower w/ performance #'s
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I'm getting 2.4 @ 35 with twin 200 I4 on a 25 Comp.

I will prob go twin 150's when I repower.
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Originally Posted by truculenity View Post
Overall, if your not looking for max speed, yes a very good match. I never saw the readout at full throttle in the river but was probably around 50. I do recall cruising at 40 most of the time weather permitting getting solidly over 2mpg. We fished with 4 people ice and livewell full and never thought the boat needed more.
Thanks a lot of the first hand account. I havenít been able to talk to anyone with the exact setup I inquired about.

I really appreciate all of the quality responses and help. You Comp guys really came thru for me with some close comparisons as well
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:14 AM
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Same boat here - I'll prob just go with the Merc 150's when I repower - the $ diff buys a lot of gas. High 30's cruise at 4500 is cool with me. Have you got any quotes on the repower?
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The 150 is a great engine and have heard from a good source that a 30' Velocity test boat ran 55 mph with them. That said, I stand with my first response. Go.big or go home
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heck with etecs id rather have less powerful less fuel efficient motors on my boat anyday
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Will your boat plane on a single 150? That would be the big question I would ask. That would be enough to make me bite the bullet and go with the 200s.
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Will your boat plane on a single 150? That would be the big question I would ask. That would be enough to make me bite the bullet and go with the 200s.
Doubt it. Even with the 200s I would probably have to swap props to get it up on one engine.
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I also have a pair on my 25 seavee. Been super happy with them so far. Have right at 100 hours on them now and seeing 35mph at 4000 rpms and right at 3 mpg. Top end Iím right under 50mph. Iím running 19p eco enertia props.
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Originally Posted by 2_gator View Post


I agree that I would probably always want the 200s, but Iím a realist and sometimes you canít have it all. I found a nice detailed thread where a Comp 25 with Merc 150s was getting 54mph with 19p props and 2.4mpg at 40mph. I would be happier than a pig in shit with that performance.
if you think those numbers are a potential reality, Then I agree it's a no brainer.

knowing both hulls well, I think they're pretty damn similar.

Asuming yours is an older hull (safe bet if it's rigged with HPDIs) the weight savings of the 150s will be an asset as well.
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