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Old 02-01-2019, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchell master View Post
Rinse everything NOW with fresh water,let it dry, they spray it down with your favorite spray.If the starter was under,take it apart and clean it.
What does this have to do with the thread??? Itís about 911 dammit!
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:52 PM
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This is the most annoying thread I've ever read. You dicks trying to make a big deal out of him calling the police need to see what all people call 911 for...

On the boat I had the same exact situation, my boat was fine. The starter on my engine was on top of engine so nothing got hurt. You can change the transmission fluid, I didn't but I'm sure it is the prudent thing to do. AN insurance claim isn't going to cover anything so I would just get them out of this unless you've already filed a claim in which case you'll take the insurance hit now no matter what. If you've already made the claim I would look to get everything touched by salt water replaced.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:32 AM
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This is the most annoying thread I've ever read. You dicks trying to make a big deal out of him calling the police need to see what all people call 911 for...

On the boat I had the same exact situation, my boat was fine. The starter on my engine was on top of engine so nothing got hurt. You can change the transmission fluid, I didn't but I'm sure it is the prudent thing to do. AN insurance claim isn't going to cover anything so I would just get them out of this unless you've already filed a claim in which case you'll take the insurance hit now no matter what. If you've already made the claim I would look to get everything touched by salt water replaced.
Just because others abuse it that makes it ok for this guy? You must be a politician.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chictic View Post
Thank's Nick . To all ,if you went to your marina and see your boat sinking, you wouldn't think it was an emergency. ?
Yes, but itís YOUR emergency. Not the tax payers. They have real issues to deal with.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:41 AM
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OP I hope you learned your lesson about coming on a boating forum to ask about something boating related - next time accompany your wife to the nail salon and ask around there.

This place can truly be asshat central
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:14 AM
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I agree 911 should be used for emergencies. I used to live in St Lucie County, Florida. I purchased a few antique cars over a period of time. When a motor vehicle comes from out of state it must be inspected for the title to match the serial number/VIN. Here is the surprise, you had to call 911 to have the sheriff inspect the vehicle. Different rules for different areas.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:17 AM
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:11 AM
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Unless you have a broken hose, the water did not come in thru the bilge hoses. Depending on how heeled over it was the water came over the side and as the tide came up, trapped the water in the hull. Boats with full keels almost always do this. So basically your boat filled with water, but it wasn't holed or sinking.

I would not have run it, but you don't need a surveyor, you need a mechanic. I would not involve insurance.

Calling 911? That's a first. I don't believe that you took away resources from the fire department, but come on really? Clearly you don't know what to do if your boat is taking on water which is something everyone should know. At the dock is one thing, but when out on the water calling 911 isn't going to help you a lot.

Lastly, a sinking boat is NOT an emergency unless there are people on it.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:09 PM
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Let's get back to the original question..... I am a marine surveyor. Our firm handled almost 600 claims last year. Lots of sinkings. First question, fresh or salt? Big difference. If salt, what electrical devices were submerged? All will have to be replaced. Wiring connections submerged? Then you have salt water running up the wire. Replace it. Batteries submerged? Replace them. Salt water in the engine room insulation? Replace it. It can quickly become a long list.

As far as your insurance company.... you didn't say who your carrier is. Almost all look out for their insureds. Their surveyor (and it is THEIR surveyor, not yours) can be a big help. But don't expect them to jump in and take charge of fixing your boat. That is your responsibility. Assuming that the event is a covered loss under the terms of your policy, they will reimburse you for the reasonable cost of repairs. They deal in money, not fixing boats.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 74lbSteve View Post
Let's get back to the original question..... I am a marine surveyor. Our firm handled almost 600 claims last year. Lots of sinkings. First question, fresh or salt? Big difference. If salt, what electrical devices were submerged? All will have to be replaced. Wiring connections submerged? Then you have salt water running up the wire. Replace it. Batteries submerged? Replace them. Salt water in the engine room insulation? Replace it. It can quickly become a long list.

As far as your insurance company.... you didn't say who your carrier is. Almost all look out for their insureds. Their surveyor (and it is THEIR surveyor, not yours) can be a big help. But don't expect them to jump in and take charge of fixing your boat. That is your responsibility. Assuming that the event is a covered loss under the terms of your policy, they will reimburse you for the reasonable cost of repairs. They deal in money, not fixing boats.
Thank you for an informative post!

This thread needs hijacking so.....

Edit: I'll start a new one.

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Old 02-02-2019, 12:28 PM
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Wow....talking about hijacking a thread...Damn. About 4 out of 5 of the posts are about the OP's decision to call 911. Really? I must have missed the news of all of the dying children and elderly people because of this.

Ok..to the OP's original question. I had almost the same scenario but wasn't on the bottom. Mine was a Key West #1 with twin Lugger Diesels and ZF running gears. Something happened and the bow started taking in a lot of water and she was going under bow first. I was 1000 miles away and my son-n- aw called me while I was eating at a restaurant. My friend came over and started pumping the water out. Water got up half way on engines and I believe covered the running gears. I changed filters and no permanent damage done.

If I was you I would do what the insurance company says because you don't want them to deny your claim. On top of that I would of course do the usual and change all filters and fluids. Then after about 50 hrs....pull some oil out of the motors and gear boxes and send it out for an analysis. Other than that..besides common sense stuff of cleaning up...run the hell out of the boat and keep an eye on the gauges.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary999 View Post
Thank you for an informative post!

This thread needs hijacking so.....

I have a boat on a lift. I know personally where during bad weather a boat floated partially off the lift and the back end including engines went under.The claim was denied due to lack of maintenance. I have heard of others. Can you shed light of what you have seen denied due to lack of maintenance? Or other uncovered events?
We are going to need pictures of the wife of the owner of said boat , ASAP !
Should've used tie downs , and a motion detector , just to be safe , as per THT common knowledge , as previously stated !
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:36 PM
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It would be a good idea to change all fluids and filters.
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chictic View Post
Thank's Nick . To all ,if you went to your marina and see your boat sinking, you wouldn't think it was an emergency. ?
Look at the bright side, you’ve now learned a little bit about what to do next time and most importantly you have now learned what many of us already know - exactly what kind of guy r_ventura is.

BTW - Chapman’s Piloting is a great resource that every boat owner should read.

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Old 02-02-2019, 01:36 PM
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Your bilge pump discharge hoses are supposed to have an anti siphon loop that should go high up in the ER or under the gunwales. If those loops are not there, then water will definitely come in through the through hull discharge points as the water level rises and before the boat begins to float. Of course, there may be other ways for water to flood the boat, depending on how severely it heeled over, even through the bilge pump hose anti siphon loops if heeled sufficiently.

Oh, and while agree 911 should not have been called, all this argument over it is pretty silly.
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Old 02-02-2019, 03:04 PM
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This would be an accurate transcription of the phone call I believe:

Caller: "My boats is sinking"
Emergency Operator: "Where is your boat and how many people are on board?"
Caller: "No one on board, it is sitting on the bank and the tide is out and I'm worried it will sink when the tide comes back in."
Emergency Operator: "Do you realise it is an offence to call the emergency number when no lives are at risk? Call a marine salvage company and your insurer."
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Old 02-02-2019, 04:48 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa, you went about this all wrong. First and foremost you should call Tunnels to see if your boat was laminated properly along with the correct Gelcoat, once you have found out through him and only him that your boat is safe to use, then you call 911. Donít get this messed up next time.

On a serious note, I do hope everything turns out well.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:26 AM
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This is the exact reason you have Sea Tow or Tow Boat and insurance.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Perthbloke View Post
This would be an accurate transcription of the phone call I believe:

Caller: "My boats is sinking"
Emergency Operator: "Where is your boat and how many people are on board?"
Caller: "No one on board, it is sitting on the bank and the tide is out and I'm worried it will sink when the tide comes back in."
Emergency Operator: "Do you realise it is an offence to call the emergency number when no lives are at risk? Call a marine salvage company and your insurer."
There are plenty of house fires where the home is unoccupied...so you think it should just burn to the ground without calling the FD?
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by markd3682 View Post
This is the exact reason you have Sea Tow or Tow Boat and insurance.
So what do you do when both are out of service for the season or can't respond in a timely manner? and what if there is a PD or FD boat that CAN respond? As I have seen in the North east, local PD / harbor masters are usually the first on scene. Way ahead of USCG or tow boats. In fact, USCG will call on them to respond many times and respond whether their assistance is needed or not.
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