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Old 02-01-2019, 10:17 AM
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Sure had it looks like all turned out ok. Personally I wouldn’t contact the ins co.before you know you’ve had real damage for which you covered. Keep in mind any contact to the insurance co.raises a red flag which can trigger an increased premium. Weather or not a settlement was paid. Anyway nice boat always liked the Albins.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JONOV View Post
My point is that he didn't really consume the fire departments's resources. 911 Dispatchers will say, "That's not an emergency. We're not sending someone out."

A properly trained and certified emergency dispatcher should never say, "We're not sending someone out". It is not their job to decide whether the reporting individual has all of the facts straight and make a phone based decision. That is called a liability in which any intelligent agency should train not to allow to happen. Therefor, we get dispatched.

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Old 02-01-2019, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
"Likely?" What if he did, and someone died because of it?
The stupid gets stronger, Are you really such a miserable person that everything triggers you? I just got on the bilge and you sir stick out like a sore thumb!
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DoughnutToo View Post
A properly trained and certified emergency dispatcher should never say, "We're not sending someone out". It is not their job to decide whether the reporting individual has all of the facts straight and make a phone based decision. That is called a liability in which any intelligent agency should train not to allow to happen. Therefor, we get dispatched.

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Not a first responder, but have owned a marina for 25yrs and dealt with many marine casualties. Sinkings, swamping, hurricanes, stolen boats, oil spills, or some combination, etc. Many cases LEO or CG was involved. Got a pretty good grip on how things get handled.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Corndog38 View Post
Not a first responder, but have owned a marina for 25yrs and dealt with many marine casualties. Sinkings, swamping, hurricanes, stolen boats, oil spills, or some combination, etc. Many cases LEO or CG was involved. Got a pretty good grip on how things get handled.
You sir are one of the few who haven't made an invalid claim or comment where my sarcasm was aimed.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:48 AM
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People need to realize that towns and communities still react very differently depending upon where they are. A lot of coastal communities with ties to the water and watermen are certainly better prepared and more willing to help out the community with issues like this.

For heaven sakes, in the town I grew up in the dispatchers once announced that "for any interested parties, ...... "shorts" will be available behind police headquarters tomorrow at 9:00". That's life and death???

My brother has been a first responder in a shore community for more that 40 years, I don't think he would complain about something like this at all.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:51 AM
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A day does not go by that a call is dispatched that i just shake my head. But guess what, we have to go and cannot tell you we are not coming. Maybe we work on a different level of customer service to the tax payers?
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DoughnutToo View Post
A properly trained and certified emergency dispatcher should never say, "We're not sending someone out". It is not their job to decide whether the reporting individual has all of the facts straight and make a phone based decision. That is called a liability in which any intelligent agency should train not to allow to happen. Therefor, we get dispatched.

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I used to watch Reno 911.

You wear those little Daisy Dukes while you bitch all day?

Go start your own thread on an EMT forum.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:37 AM
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Bottom line is this guy called 911 for a non emergency hoping to get a free service (at tax payers expense) from the fire dept.. I can’t believe people are defending this. The guy wasn’t concerned over chemical spills, he simply felt entitled.
Folks this is why it’s a bad idea to tell your children how special they are over and over. Because they grow up to be this guy.
Don’t even get me started on ridiculous insurance claims driving up premiums for everyone. Not a fan of this guy.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:49 AM
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Rinse everything NOW with fresh water,let it dry, they spray it down with your favorite spray.If the starter was under,take it apart and clean it.
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Old 02-01-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by miamisportsman View Post
You would think that's the case but it's not. 9 out of 10 times dispatch is going to send a unit to investigate it and confirm that it's not an emergency. And while that unit is investigating, it will be out service.
Bottom line is most fire departments would try to help but Calling 911 for non emergency reasons does tie up resources. And the resources are NOT unlimited.
I dont see the difference in someone calling a non emergency # and reporting the same. The same decision is made whether to send resources or not. Usually the call to a non emergency # is routed to dispatch either automatically, someone forwarding the call, or passing along the issue and dispatch dispatching a unit.
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Old 02-01-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DoughnutToo View Post
A properly trained and certified emergency dispatcher should never say, "We're not sending someone out". It is not their job to decide whether the reporting individual has all of the facts straight and make a phone based decision. That is called a liability in which any intelligent agency should train not to allow to happen. Therefor, we get dispatched.

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Hate to break it to you but dispatch definitely can say they are not sending someone out. It happens all of the time. You wouldn't believe ridiculous calls that come in.
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Originally Posted by speckslayer View Post
Bottom line is this guy called 911 for a non emergency hoping to get a free service (at tax payers expense) from the fire dept.. I can’t believe people are defending this. The guy wasn’t concerned over chemical spills, he simply felt entitled.
Folks this is why it’s a bad idea to tell your children how special they are over and over. Because they grow up to be this guy.
Don’t even get me started on ridiculous insurance claims driving up premiums for everyone. Not a fan of this guy.

i actually think a boat sinking and a possible fuel spill *is* an emergency. in fact, i happened to be docked behind a firehouse for years and you wouldnt believe how many calls they had to go on to the town marina for fuel being pumped into a rod holder or bilge.

you wouldnt believe how many STUPID calls FD has to respond to on a regular basis at tax payer's expense. they even respond to lock outs. yes, full truck roll to unlock someone's car. if my boat was sinking i would be calling for help. in my area, the tow services are actually iced in or winterized on the hard right now however there is a PD boat that can access most parts of the harbor. i would not hesitate to ask for their assistance. however, i also would not be keeping a boat in the water in the winter where it rests on the bottom during low tide and without ice eaters/bubbler system to keep ice away.

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Old 02-01-2019, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by R1ckyBobby View Post
did you really call 911 ?
My 1st thought.
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Old 02-01-2019, 03:16 PM
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It looks like you may have dodged a bullet on your boat sinking... but not with the THT pitchfork crowd.
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Old 02-01-2019, 03:49 PM
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Next up, Go Fund Me
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:00 PM
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I had a 21' Sea boss years ago. Hence the name. Got a call from the marina that the boat was listed badly. Sing 2hours away, by the time I got there the boat was heavy port side. Manufacturers defect on all they hulls. I pulled the boat, brought it back to the dealer. The dealer replaced all of the thru hulls. The manufacturer said it was the wrong glue to the wrong plastic fittings. Used the boat another year or so and then sold it. The answer to the next question is yes, I disclosed the fact that the fittings were replaced.
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tvguy243 View Post
OP, you don't have to automatically agree to everything the insurance company offers but if you don't start with them you may forfeit any coverage

See what the surveyor says and go from there. I wouldn't run the engines again until flushed out

The comments about tying up an emergency vehicle are wrong
I was a captain in my town's volunteer fire dept and we regularly went on non-emergency calls
Never a boat but several times to pump out basements
We did it gladly to help the community

As far as delaying emergency calls, it did not
Sometimes it even sped them up
If we were out on a call and a more serious call came in, we would get diverted to the new call
Because we were already on the rig we would move faster then if we had to respond to a page, drive to the house, gear up and then move

OP, good luck and let us know how it turns out

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Thank's Nick . To all ,if you went to your marina and see your boat sinking, you wouldn't think it was an emergency. ?
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
"Likely?" What if he did, and someone died because of it?
realistic input

lol
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I would not have dialed 911 but i don’t see why it’s an issue. Seems to have an emergency situation but coast guard would not help at the dock.

You never know he could could have saved a life.

The fire department in my town town would love to get any call in the winter. Summer time is different but winter they will come get a cat out of the tree.
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