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Old 02-01-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PatSea32 View Post
Paul, this is an excellent thread and I am convinced it will become an excellent resource for boaters. I would suggest you check out the video library from the United States Power Squadron : https://americasboatingchannel.com.
Also, check out their boating education resources starting here: https://americasboatingclub.org
I am a member of the organization.
When I was stationed in Mobile the Power Squadron would have me drop into the boating safety courses to give the students a quick run down on the Coast Guard. I always enjoyed that. Thank you very much for the links. Which one of those videos is your favorite and why?
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Old 02-01-2019, 03:46 PM
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I want to distinguish my official account from my personal one. I want folks to know that when they are speaking to me under this user name that they are speaking to a member of the Coast Guard who is speaking for the Coast Guard in an official capacity. So if for example I tell you what the Coast Guard's SAR policy is, you'll know that I am speaking on behalf of the Coast Guard. Under my personal account, I may have at one time (and probably will again) posted something that was perhaps less than professional, so I want to keep the two users distinct and separate. Did that answer your question?
as I was reading the first post, I kept thinking, I’ve heard this story before here on THT that a guy was trying to land a job like this, lol.

this is a great idea.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:14 PM
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That's why I noted in my post that from a safety standpoint there was cause for concern. I understood the thought process that delivered him to his decision, but had a conversation with him about my safety concerns.

This is a question to you on the rules, and it trends into a gray area. Can trolling gear restrict a vessel's maneuverability?
I would think that even when trolling spoons with 300ft. of wire behind the boat, or an offshore spread with 12 lines in the water, the boat is still maneuverable. We can still easily make course adjustments to avoid collision. I don't see any way that trolling prohibits a vessel from avoiding collision.

(g) The term “vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver” means a vessel which from the nature of her work is restricted in her ability to maneuver as required by these Rules and is therefore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel.

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Old 02-01-2019, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by USCG Safe Boating D8 View Post
Let me use this introductory thread to ask you a question. The answers to this question will help me know where to focus much of my effort.

Where do you get boating safety information? I tend to view things through the prism of my own life and experiences, but I may be missing something. Let me refine the question a bit. Boating safety is obviously my job, so I spend a lot of time actively seeking it out. How would the average boater who doesn't seek it out get exposed to recreational boating information of an educational value. I have my own ideas about that, and I'll share them with you, but I don't want to steer your responses.

They don't get exposed to it thats the problem. Their sales man just sells them a boat hands over the keys and says have fun boat safely. 2 hours later they got the trailer jack knifed on the ramp. The guy has the orange life jacket on upside down. The kids popping off flares thinking its the 4th of July and then holy crap honey honey get the dock lines the boats floating away with Jr inside.

People can say what they want. But the laws need to change and there needs to be a mandated course. And not the bullshit local course taught by some old dude in the Aux. A real course a step down from a 6 pack or something. I had been boating since I was a kid. Then at 36 when I took my capts course. I thought I knew it all. WOW was I in for a treat. I was part of the problem. I didn't know half of what I learned over those 6 days. It blows my mind how smart I thought I was and what I thought I knew.

The problem with a lot of people is just that. They think they know the rules of the road. Someone told them Red Right Return and they think they can now drive a cargo ship. Want to know where you can start? Start by making it to where they have to get a legit lic before being able to buy a boat.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:13 AM
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I am fairly new to boating, when I made the decision to purchase went on my states website (CT) then the Coastguard website to see require courses, training etc..amazingly there isn’t much? I even called my insurance company and they had none.

I took the USCG safety course (in a day) that is all that’s required in CT. On my own I hired a instructor from a powerboat school locally and spent quite a few hours with him on what I felt was basics that I needed.

There seems to be good safety info on USCG web site on pre launch safety, equipment etc. I found that a good resource.
Web forums like this are great to read and learn from others, tips, mistakes etc.

To be honest I am shocked how little is required? (Generally I am small government, less regulated type of guy)
My background is Aviation, started in small planes and working myself up to Airline flying. Even at the introductory levels, flying is taught with emphasis on safety. Safety is at almost obsessed level in commercial aviation.

I love the freedom and enjoyment that is experienced with boating, nothing is like it. I would never want more rules or restrictions to it, there seems to me no consensus or “what’s next” when one gets into boating.

Thank you for coming on this site! I really look forward to you giving opinions to questions, esp through a USCG lense.

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Old 02-03-2019, 04:55 AM
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Two comments:
1. Great idea and thread
2. I took the OUPV-6 course and got my license several years ago and learned a ton (have never used the license). You can never be too educated about boating.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:17 AM
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Paul, there is a thread on the boating forum titled "What to do if you breakdown over 20 miles out?" that could really use your input. I recommended that the question be given to you to get the USCG's position on what the protocol is for communications under this circumstance. I know you are trying to get this information under one thread, so maybe you could at least provide the response here. Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:23 AM
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I'm a just glad there is finally someone here who can tell us the party at fault when one boat attempts to jump over another boat but makes contact in the effort.

Welcome to the circus!
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum in your official role. You've already answered one question for me. Several years back I was sailing a rented sailboat. I was approaching a motor vessel off my starboard bow at approximately 90 degrees. He had trolling lines out. I continued on course as did he until I had to change course to avoid a collision. He gives me an arms up in the air WTF expression, I pointed to my sail, He shakes his head. I realize now he felt he was restricted in his ability to maneuver which (incorrectly as I have just learned) made him the stand on vessel.
As far as my knowledge, it started with my father on Cape Cod. Red right on entering. That was it! Beyond that I took a boating safety course and read the pamphlets and literature handed out.
Thank you for starting this thread and providing answers to what I'm sure will be many questions.

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Old 02-04-2019, 09:15 AM
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Welcome to the forum in your official role. You've already answered one question for me. Several years back I was sailing a rented sailboat. I was approaching a motor vessel off my starboard bow at approximately 90 degrees. He had trolling lines out. I continued on course as did he until I had to change course to avoid a collision. He gives me an arms up in the air WTF expression, I pointed to my sail, He shakes his head. I realize now he felt he was restricted in his ability to maneuver which (incorrectly as I have just learned) made him the stand on vessel.
As far as my knowledge, it started with my father on Cape Cod. Red right on entering. That was it! Beyond that I took a boating safety course and read the pamphlets and literature handed out.
Thank you for starting this thread and providing answers to what I'm sure will be many questions.
Just out of curiosity, was the boat that was trolling displaying the fishing day shapes?
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Just out of curiosity, was the boat that was trolling displaying the fishing day shapes?
I've boated for 50 years and have never noticed one. No idea what they look like.
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Old 02-05-2019, 05:07 AM
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Just saw this. Welcome in your official capacity.

Has anyone suggested a separate forum, specifically for safety and rules? You could monitor it similar to a Vendor forum, but as part of the Boating section. Just a thought

I took a boating safety course when I bought my first boat, but it has been over 30 years. Time for a refresher!
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Just saw this. Welcome in your official capacity.

Has anyone suggested a separate forum, specifically for safety and rules? You could monitor it similar to a Vendor forum, but as part of the Boating section. Just a thought

I took a boating safety course when I bought my first boat, but it has been over 30 years. Time for a refresher!
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Thanks for starting this thread. I hope it will become a great resource. Their are far too many boaters out there that just pay the fee and don't learn any of the rules. This puts everyone at risk, between people running with no lights and people running with their dock lights on it's astounding.

I hope people like you can make boating safer and more enjoyable for everyone through public education!
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Hope you’re enjoying New Orleans. Great thread.
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Thanks for speaking on this. I feel like this is spoken about often on here so everyone always assumes that you will be in the deep if you fire off an EPIRB and you are not sinking / on fire.

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Would love to be a fly on the wall when you get dragged into the CG office to explain why you set off your EPIRB because you broke down and they launched boats and helicopters to find you. Get ready to write a check......
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That's not going to happen. Being broken down offshore with no way to communicate rises to the level of distress by Coast Guard policy. Please refer to the below decision making flow chart to see the factors the Coast Guard considers in determining whether to categorize a situation as distress or non-distress.
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On my own I hired a instructor from a powerboat school locally and spent quite a few hours with him on what I felt was basics that I needed.

Do you have any recommendations for instructors in CT? We’re getting our first boat in April and I’m looking for as much help as I can get.
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I don't recall seeing any.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:25 AM
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Do you have any recommendations for instructors in CT? We’re getting our first boat in April and I’m looking for as much help as I can get.
Search this forum well... there was a thread about instruction, and a guy in CT who seemed to have a good offering. But I cant remember him....
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Do you have any recommendations for instructors in CT? We’re getting our first boat in April and I’m looking for as much help as I can get.
I am not sure where you are located? If near Stonington I’d recommend

Home | New England Science & Sailing | Stonington, CT

They have power boat instructors. The guy I had used to pilot ferry boats up in Maine.
Great guy! I started basics in a 16ft, 21 ft and then he worked with me on my Egg Harbor.

Cant say enough positive about the experience.

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