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Old 01-27-2019, 04:51 AM
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I'm repowering with Suzuki 300s pretty soon. I currently have 07 300s that are fly by wire. Should I consider mechanicals. I think the answer is no, but.....
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The decision is made for you as the 300 is only available in fly by wire.
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Thread hijack: Anybody know price difference between mechanical and FBW Yamaha, 150, 175, 200?

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Originally Posted by RickC137 View Post
Thread hijack: Anybody know price difference between mechanical and FBW Yamaha, 150, 175, 200?

Hijacking the thread hijack: Does anyone know the difference between a yam and a sweet potato?
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Originally Posted by RickC137 View Post
Thread hijack: Anybody know price difference between mechanical and FBW Yamaha, 150, 175, 200?
Basically they are all fly by wire..it's the location of the potentiometer and shifting controls which varies.
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Originally Posted by RickC137 View Post
Thread hijack: Anybody know price difference between mechanical and FBW Yamaha, 150, 175, 200?
F150 Difference between Mech and FBW=$635 Engine only.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Basically they are all fly by wire..it's the location of the potentiometer and shifting controls which varies.
yea, right.
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Originally Posted by Parker Yacht View Post
F150 Difference between Mech and FBW=$635 Engine only.
OK, thanks. I assume that means there's a price difference in the binnacle controls?
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no- fly by wire is the only way to go. I cant believe you would even consider going back to the dark ages.
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Originally Posted by cman55 View Post
Hijacking the thread hijack: Does anyone know the difference between a yam and a sweet potato?
One has a henway the other doesnt.
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Originally Posted by RickC137 View Post
OK, thanks. I assume that means there's a price difference in the binnacle controls?
Yes the digital control is more expensive. I would never go back to mechanical..

OP why would you consider mechanical??
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I just wanted to completely understand why I was not considering the mechanical version
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Originally Posted by rcurtis226 View Post
I just wanted to completely understand why I was not considering the mechanical version
I really don't think there is a true mechanical version. The engine is digitally controlled anyhow, it's just where it connects from mechanical to digital controls, at the engine or at the binnacle.
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Yamaha used a single cpu in the fbw binnacle to comm to the motors. Loose that and no motors. I for one don't want fbw in my dual motor offshore rig. Fbw is nice and smooth and always in sync, but that is a not worth the added exposure to having yet another thing to break. And it costs more. Its a solution looking for a problem in my eyes. But I am clearly in the minority.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
I really don't think there is a true mechanical version. The engine is digitally controlled anyhow, it's just where it connects from mechanical to digital controls, at the engine or at the binnacle.
nope
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Originally Posted by NEBassMan View Post
Yamaha used a single cpu in the fbw binnacle to comm to the motors. Loose that and no motors. I for one don't want fbw in my dual motor offshore rig. Fbw is nice and smooth and always in sync, but that is a not worth the added exposure to having yet another thing to break. And it costs more. Its a solution looking for a problem in my eyes. But I am clearly in the minority.
Tell that to a fighter pilot.
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no- fly by wire is the only way to go. I cant believe you would even consider going back to the dark ages.
Actually I disagree. If you boat in fresh water exclusively maybe. I re-powered a few months ago with twin Zukes and was offered the digital but i wanted the mechanical relability It will be quite a while before salt eats through stainless steel cables as compared to small electronics and relays. I boat only in saltwater.

Many stories out there of people left stranded with perfectly good engines but no way to move them due to the controls failing.
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Originally Posted by NEBassMan View Post

nope
So where is the mechanical/electronic interface?
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I bought a new boat in Aug 2018. Really wanted fly by wire. Bought mechanical. I'm sure its not quite the same, but, it is buttery smooth. Have a family member in the boat repair business. Said he has seen ALOT of repair jobs on the fly by wire, so take that for whatever it is worth. Not sure how much more that option is (mine is a Yam 250 4stroke), but, I honestly have not regrets by not having it.
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Originally Posted by barrell View Post
Tell that to a fighter pilot.
pretty sure that outboard motors are not engineered and manufactured to the same degree as a fighter jet......

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