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Old 01-29-2019, 07:41 AM
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Incredible to read all the comments about not braking hard, or how braking hard has caused this or that malody. I'm making no judgement on this incident but an observation of a lot of posters on here about avoiding braking hard, and cars "cutting you off" etc. If you can't go from your highway speed to full on threshold braking with your rig, then please don't be behind me. It happens, a truck loses a tire and people freak out. A mattress blows off the roof of a poorly loaded pick-up. A cow gets on the highway. Surely every driver has been faced with that moment where you need all your stopping power RIGHT NOW. Real braking might save your life, or your families life, or just keep your fishing day on track.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:44 AM
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Thanks for coming on here and providing an explanation which you were not obligated to do. I have much more respect for you than the internet tough guys who spew all the BS about how they have no sympathy for you or the situation.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:45 AM
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Hope you get back in the water asap. Glad to hear everyone on this forum never had a lapse of judgement.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:53 AM
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Man, I wonder how many cool points you loose for something like that? I hope everything worked out for them.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:16 AM
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Well, if Darin didnt hit the brakes then the only other thing that might force him into the left lane with the boat in his truck bed would be the left trailer frame broke causing the rapid deceleration and pull to the left into the oncoming lane resulting in the boat sliding into the bed of the truck. My money is on a light weight inadequate bolt together trailer failure. And yes, I'm an engineer and I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night. Glad no serious damage and nobody was hurt! Were you still able to go fishing??
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:37 AM
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Shit happens
glad no one was hurt
Gorgeous boat
go kill some fish
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:27 AM
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Wow, what is THT coming to? That’s two threads in a very short time discussing a “wreck” and both parties declared total fault for complacency. No BS or anything. Impressive gentlemen!

It really highlights how dangerous complacency is. I heard a stat about most vehicle collisions/injuries happen 2-3 miles from the house. The, “it’s a very short trip, what can go wrong” mentality. Hence, wear your seatbelt.

Thanks for for being upfront and letting this serve as another reminder.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:43 AM
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I too don't use straps but this incident has changed my mind for whats that's worth.

I did not see an actual explanation of what happened. You just braked as normal and the boat slid forward?
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:01 AM
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Stern foward and down. Bow back and down, 10,000# straps.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PhinChaser View Post
Man, I wonder how many cool points you loose for something like that? I hope everything worked out for them.
You get them back for owning it.
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:41 PM
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Did an I bean fail, dig into the asphalt, rapidly stop the rig and launch the boat forward?

I am guilty of using only the winch strap, forward safety chain and not using stern straps when towing the 1 mile from the house to the ramp at 10-15 mph. On the highway, I use a couple 5,000 lb stern straps to hold the boat to the trailer and another 5K strap vertical from the trailer frame to the bow eye. I think I'll add 2 straps from the bow eye back to the trailer frame at a 45° angle to reduce the odds the boat can slide forward if the tow truck rapidly stops.
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Old 01-30-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
Hello board. I am the lucky guy that was driving the truck towing the 40 Invincible to the Venice Marina ramp to go after Wahoo on Saturday. I want to start off by thanking the town of Venice, LA. Almost every vehicle that drove by for the 2 hours we were dealing with the mess, first asked if everyone was OK, then offered to do anything they could do to help. This goes to show that the majority of the boating and fishing community is always there to help other boaters when an accident occurs.
I want to extend special thanks to Capt. Eddie Van Gordon of Seawind Charters. He was scheduled to go with us on Saturday, but instead he jumped right in with us to get the boat back on the trailer safely. He fished with us the day prior, and worked his ass off to get us on fish. Also, I want to thank Newman Crane Service in Venice. They were right down the road, and promptly brought a crane over and righted the ship. (Pardon the pun). They used utmost care when rigging and lifting, and the boat sustained no addition gelcoat damage through the process.
As for what happened..... There is alot if speculation on this thread, which is understandable. No, I did not have transom straps on the back of the boat. We were traveling a few miles to the boat ramp at less than 30 mph. I did not miss a turn and slam on the brakes. In fact, I never slammed on the brakes whatsoever. This situation is full of "what ifs" "should haves", etc.
I have been in the retail side of the boat business going back 18 years, have hauled boats of all sizes and weights all over the country, have water launched boats up to 60 ft., yada yada. When hauling boats on a highway long distances, I always use multiple straps etc. I admit, that I have hauled boats short diatances ro a boat ramp hundreds of times without a transom strap, relying on the winch strap and bow stop to prevent movement of the boat.
Obviously, Saturday morning after the accident, I wish I had done things differently.
But, my group and I feel truly blessed that no one was injured or killed, and we all know a tailgate can be replaced, and gelcoat damage repaired.
I will have an engineer assess everything to determine how and why. Anything past that is speculation and I personally don't want to go there.
I will say this. In the battle of Invincible 40 Cat VS. 2018 F450. Invincible 40 WINS!!
Kudos for jumping on the forum and explaining the situation, which you certainly didn't have to do. Everyone f**s up now and then, we are all guilty of taking short cuts (except my old man, damn his smug self righteousness!) but learning from our mistakes is what we call 'wisdom'.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:37 AM
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Darn I hate to see a rig like that get damaged. Shit happens. My boat at one tenth the cost will always be strapped down now
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
I too don't use straps but this incident has changed my mind for whats that's worth.

I did not see an actual explanation of what happened. You just braked as normal and the boat slid forward?
I was wondering the same thing? Also...does insurance cover the damage if not strapped legally or does it matter?
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:20 AM
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Was working on trailer yesterday and thought of this thread. Bringing it up to see if there are any updates.
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:33 AM
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Too stupid to tie it down, too stupid to go boating, not to mention that the water is now about 57 degrees, no one one the west coast uses CC too damn cold
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 805gregg View Post
no one one the west coast uses CC too damn cold
Quite possibly the dumbest comment I've read on here

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Old 02-25-2019, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 805gregg View Post
Too stupid to tie it down, too stupid to go boating, not to mention that the water is now about 57 degrees, no one one the west coast uses CC too damn cold
well california is weird as fuck, so what do you expect!
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:01 PM
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I think this boat was at the Biloxi boat show yesterday. Same color and engines. If it is the same boat I did not see any damage so it must have already been repaired. Either way the boat is HUGE and looks awesome.

On a a side note the boat had some large straps holding it down to the trailer. Odd thing is there is no positive stop for the boat to push agains when loading it onto the trailer. That could be common place for cats, but I don’t have any cat experience so have no clue.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cp5899 View Post
I think this boat was at the Biloxi boat show yesterday. Same color and engines. If it is the same boat I did not see any damage so it must have already been repaired. Either way the boat is HUGE and looks awesome.

On a a side note the boat had some large straps holding it down to the trailer. Odd thing is there is no positive stop for the boat to push agains when loading it onto the trailer. That could be common place for cats, but I don’t have any cat experience so have no clue.
The captain/driver posted on this thread stating he was having someone (engineer maybe?) look into this to see what exactly happened. I think it benefits all of us that trailer our rigs to know what happened so we can learn. I, for one, put a heavy duty strap down in the bow in addition to the chain after I saw a picture in this thread.
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