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Old 01-28-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
Hello board. I am the lucky guy that was driving the truck towing the 40 Invincible to the Venice Marina ramp to go after Wahoo on Saturday. I want to start off by thanking the town of Venice, LA. Almost every vehicle that drove by for the 2 hours we were dealing with the mess, first asked if everyone was OK, then offered to do anything they could do to help. This goes to show that the majority of the boating and fishing community is always there to help other boaters when an accident occurs.
I want to extend special thanks to Capt. Eddie Van Gordon of Seawind Charters. He was scheduled to go with us on Saturday, but instead he jumped right in with us to get the boat back on the trailer safely. He fished with us the day prior, and worked his ass off to get us on fish. Also, I want to thank Newman Crane Service in Venice. They were right down the road, and promptly brought a crane over and righted the ship. (Pardon the pun). They used utmost care when rigging and lifting, and the boat sustained no addition gelcoat damage through the process.
As for what happened..... There is alot if speculation on this thread, which is understandable. No, I did not have transom straps on the back of the boat. We were traveling a few miles to the boat ramp at less than 30 mph. I did not miss a turn and slam on the brakes. In fact, I never slammed on the brakes whatsoever. This situation is full of "what ifs" "should haves", etc.
I have been in the retail side of the boat business going back 18 years, have hauled boats of all sizes and weights all over the country, have water launched boats up to 60 ft., yada yada. When hauling boats on a highway long distances, I always use multiple straps etc. I admit, that I have hauled boats short diatances ro a boat ramp hundreds of times without a transom strap, relying on the winch strap and bow stop to prevent movement of the boat.
Obviously, Saturday morning after the accident, I wish I had done things differently.
But, my group and I feel truly blessed that no one was injured or killed, and we all know a tailgate can be replaced, and gelcoat damage repaired.
I will have an engineer assess everything to determine how and why. Anything past that is speculation and I personally don't want to go there.
I will say this. In the battle of Invincible 40 Cat VS. 2018 F450. Invincible 40 WINS!!

Bummer. If it makes you feel any better (It probably won't) I've seen plenty of people that know what they're doing that have made apparently really amateur mistakes. Including a fishing guide that didn't put the truck in park and almost dunked his truck at a launch. Glad everyone was ok.
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Old 01-28-2019, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VaporTrail1 View Post
So do you think they get in trouble for not having wide load banners and flags, and probably no permits?
No, this is Louisiana, its probably our great hwys that caused this fiasco in the first place.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:31 PM
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bunk slides and load not properly secured! send me a 12 pack and save the money on the engineer!
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NedLloyd View Post
The boat came off the trailer, ... the truck didn't hit a concrete wall, ... The boat is supposed to be strapped to the trailer so it cannot come off the trailer. The load wasn't secured on the trailer, what else do we need?
It makes no difference whether it is a boat, an excavator, a farm tractor, bulldozer, piece of manufacturing machinery or military tank, the load is supposed to be secured.
for the record, i only use one strap when i haul my military tank!
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:46 PM
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"You got enough tongue weight now?"

Crazy pic - glad everybody ok. Definitely curious to hear what the cause was!
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
Hello board. I am the lucky guy that was driving the truck towing the 40 Invincible to the Venice Marina ramp to go after Wahoo on Saturday. I want to start off by thanking the town of Venice, LA. Almost every vehicle that drove by for the 2 hours we were dealing with the mess, first asked if everyone was OK, then offered to do anything they could do to help. This goes to show that the majority of the boating and fishing community is always there to help other boaters when an accident occurs.
I want to extend special thanks to Capt. Eddie Van Gordon of Seawind Charters. He was scheduled to go with us on Saturday, but instead he jumped right in with us to get the boat back on the trailer safely. He fished with us the day prior, and worked his ass off to get us on fish. Also, I want to thank Newman Crane Service in Venice. They were right down the road, and promptly brought a crane over and righted the ship. (Pardon the pun). They used utmost care when rigging and lifting, and the boat sustained no addition gelcoat damage through the process.
As for what happened..... There is alot if speculation on this thread, which is understandable. No, I did not have transom straps on the back of the boat. We were traveling a few miles to the boat ramp at less than 30 mph. I did not miss a turn and slam on the brakes. In fact, I never slammed on the brakes whatsoever. This situation is full of "what ifs" "should haves", etc.
I have been in the retail side of the boat business going back 18 years, have hauled boats of all sizes and weights all over the country, have water launched boats up to 60 ft., yada yada. When hauling boats on a highway long distances, I always use multiple straps etc. I admit, that I have hauled boats short diatances ro a boat ramp hundreds of times without a transom strap, relying on the winch strap and bow stop to prevent movement of the boat.
Obviously, Saturday morning after the accident, I wish I had done things differently.
But, my group and I feel truly blessed that no one was injured or killed, and we all know a tailgate can be replaced, and gelcoat damage repaired.
I will have an engineer assess everything to determine how and why. Anything past that is speculation and I personally don't want to go there.
I will say this. In the battle of Invincible 40 Cat VS. 2018 F450. Invincible 40 WINS!!
Thank you for coming here and telling us what happened. Glad all are ok. Please come back and tell us what the engineer concluded.
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
Hello board. I am the lucky guy that was driving the truck towing the 40 Invincible to the Venice Marina ramp to go after Wahoo on Saturday. I want to start off by thanking the town of Venice, LA. Almost every vehicle that drove by for the 2 hours we were dealing with the mess, first asked if everyone was OK, then offered to do anything they could do to help. This goes to show that the majority of the boating and fishing community is always there to help other boaters when an accident occurs.
I want to extend special thanks to Capt. Eddie Van Gordon of Seawind Charters. He was scheduled to go with us on Saturday, but instead he jumped right in with us to get the boat back on the trailer safely. He fished with us the day prior, and worked his ass off to get us on fish. Also, I want to thank Newman Crane Service in Venice. They were right down the road, and promptly brought a crane over and righted the ship. (Pardon the pun). They used utmost care when rigging and lifting, and the boat sustained no addition gelcoat damage through the process.
As for what happened..... There is alot if speculation on this thread, which is understandable. No, I did not have transom straps on the back of the boat. We were traveling a few miles to the boat ramp at less than 30 mph. I did not miss a turn and slam on the brakes. In fact, I never slammed on the brakes whatsoever. This situation is full of "what ifs" "should haves", etc.
I have been in the retail side of the boat business going back 18 years, have hauled boats of all sizes and weights all over the country, have water launched boats up to 60 ft., yada yada. When hauling boats on a highway long distances, I always use multiple straps etc. I admit, that I have hauled boats short diatances ro a boat ramp hundreds of times without a transom strap, relying on the winch strap and bow stop to prevent movement of the boat.
Obviously, Saturday morning after the accident, I wish I had done things differently.
But, my group and I feel truly blessed that no one was injured or killed, and we all know a tailgate can be replaced, and gelcoat damage repaired.
I will have an engineer assess everything to determine how and why. Anything past that is speculation and I personally don't want to go there.
I will say this. In the battle of Invincible 40 Cat VS. 2018 F450. Invincible 40 WINS!!
I also thank you for your post. Glad you’re all ok. If marine life doesn’t humble you at times you’re only looking at pictures of boats. Rock on with your beautiful vessel.
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:55 PM
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I also thank you for your post. Glad you’re all ok. If marine life doesn’t humble you at times you’re only looking at pictures of boats. Rock on with your beautiful vessel.
Ain't that the truth!
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:58 PM
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Glad to hear everyone is Ok, could have been so much worse. Thank you for sharing what actually happened. If for nothing else than maybe it will get some of these people to secure their trailers to their boats better.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:24 PM
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Most definately glad no one was hurt, that’s what is important.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:35 PM
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For what it’s worth, I would humbly suggest that one should utilize a length of proof coil chain of a size capable to hold your boat, a suitable eyebolt or pad eye and a huge turnbuckle or screw type device to pull the chain so that the boat can’t slide forward before the chain gets tight. Boat momentum snapping against the chain will exert a tremendously higher load than a static pull will. The chain MUST run from the boat’s boweye REARWARD to the attachment point on the trailer. And with all of this and rear straps there’s still no guarantee.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by txyachtguy View Post
Hello board. I am the lucky guy that was driving the truck towing the 40 Invincible to the Venice Marina ramp to go after Wahoo on Saturday. I want to start off by thanking the town of Venice, LA. Almost every vehicle that drove by for the 2 hours we were dealing with the mess, first asked if everyone was OK, then offered to do anything they could do to help. This goes to show that the majority of the boating and fishing community is always there to help other boaters when an accident occurs.
I want to extend special thanks to Capt. Eddie Van Gordon of Seawind Charters. He was scheduled to go with us on Saturday, but instead he jumped right in with us to get the boat back on the trailer safely. He fished with us the day prior, and worked his ass off to get us on fish. Also, I want to thank Newman Crane Service in Venice. They were right down the road, and promptly brought a crane over and righted the ship. (Pardon the pun). They used utmost care when rigging and lifting, and the boat sustained no addition gelcoat damage through the process.
As for what happened..... There is alot if speculation on this thread, which is understandable. No, I did not have transom straps on the back of the boat. We were traveling a few miles to the boat ramp at less than 30 mph. I did not miss a turn and slam on the brakes. In fact, I never slammed on the brakes whatsoever. This situation is full of "what ifs" "should haves", etc.
I have been in the retail side of the boat business going back 18 years, have hauled boats of all sizes and weights all over the country, have water launched boats up to 60 ft., yada yada. When hauling boats on a highway long distances, I always use multiple straps etc. I admit, that I have hauled boats short diatances ro a boat ramp hundreds of times without a transom strap, relying on the winch strap and bow stop to prevent movement of the boat.
Obviously, Saturday morning after the accident, I wish I had done things differently.
But, my group and I feel truly blessed that no one was injured or killed, and we all know a tailgate can be replaced, and gelcoat damage repaired.
I will have an engineer assess everything to determine how and why. Anything past that is speculation and I personally don't want to go there.
I will say this. In the battle of Invincible 40 Cat VS. 2018 F450. Invincible 40 WINS!!
Thanks for the post, and glad you are ok. Crazy stuff can happen to any of us. I'm sure we will all be patiently waiting to see what happened since you didn't hit brakes! What's it like to be cruising down the road and all of a sudden have a 40 foot cat in the bed of your truck?? Did the truck come to a halt? That picture is pretty wild lookin!
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:47 PM
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Pretty solid move to take ownership of an accident with your real name and business on the internet. With that kind of transparency I would never hold this incident against anyone involved. Shit happens, learn from it and move on.

The local people offering to help reminds me of a (smaller scale) incident I had in Port Aransas. I was pulling a piece of shit rotted out ski boat through town for a relative and the trailer came off the hitch in the middle of the intersection of Cotter and Alister St. Some drunk dickhead hooked it up and I was too young and naive to double check his work. The hitch latch was rusted in the closed position and it was just sitting on top of the ball. Surprised it made it as far as it did. Anyway, trailer off the truck in the middle of the busiest intersection in town; three dudes immediately jumped out to help me put the piece of shit back on my truck. They were all cool as hell and had a general "man that sucks" attitude but I'm sure the fact that I was blocking all traffic in every direction helped to motivate them.
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:43 AM
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Sorry for your misfortune Darin. Not surprised at the response from Eddie Van or other Venetians. Been down there a few times and fished with Eddie. They are good people
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:46 AM
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glad everyone is ok and no serious damage to the boat-gelcoat is easy to repair. have known Daron for a few months and have seen the care and attention to detail that he takes in dealing with boats, equipment and people.
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:10 AM
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You are a good sport Mr wood for posting in the gutter- oops i mean THT.
Glad no one was hurt. Beast of a boat, I hope the cosmetic stuff can be fixed quickly and the vessel gets back to making memories and fish fillets.
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nsh View Post
No, this is Louisiana, its probably our great hwys that caused this fiasco in the first place.
I can attest to the roads in Louisiana.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:59 AM
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I lost a boat down there in September. Drunk driver took mine out. Although my Sport Trail trailer was totaled the boat stayed on what was left.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:59 AM
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I don't really see how transom straps would have helped. On a boat that size the straps go backwards from the trailer to the transom so if the stanchion broke the straps would just be slack.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by captmike1984 View Post
I don't really see how transom straps would have helped. On a boat that size the straps go backwards from the trailer to the transom so if the stanchion broke the straps would just be slack.
Because:

Fs = uW

Fs = static friction force
u = coefficient of friction between the hull and bunks
W = Weight of the boat

Fsstrap = u(W+Fstrap)

Fsstrap = static friction force with straps
Fstrap = tension in tie down straps

Fs < Fsstrap
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