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Old 01-26-2019, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by elimnatr086 View Post
but I would like to know did some other unaware driver cut him off to where he had to slam on the brakes?
What difference would that make?
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Old 01-26-2019, 06:19 AM
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Likely a broken I beam on the trailer tongue.....
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Originally Posted by bsh102 View Post
That is not a good morning, at all. Yeah I think I would be a little nauseated that I am that stupid to not strap down a $700k boat.

A $30k boat will still hurt someone if it weren't strapped down.
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Old 01-26-2019, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by elimnatr086 View Post
Everyone likes to make comments about the straps- but I would like to know did some other unaware driver cut him off to where he had to slam on the brakes?
Ummmm..hence the straps..for THAT VERY REASON! We really don't strap them because we think the wind is going to blow the boat off the trailer. It only takes a couple mins to put on some transom straps and a strap from the front of the boat angled toward rear of trailer. It is unfortunately his fault...
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:02 AM
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I never strapped my boat on my bunk trailer. I added two slick boards on the forward bunk and it made launching so easy the boat just slipped right off. That night we loaded and I noticed the boat was back about 4” from where I liked. So I tried hitting the breaks hard to see if she would move forward.

I will only admit that I ALWAYS use two bow straps running aft and two stern straps running straight down now!
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post

Goosenecks are awesome for the long haul but suck really bad with a long DRW short turning radius truck at tight boat ramps..IMHO
i can admit to not having a boat on a GN Trailer but have 40’ 30k trailers and they are much more maneuverable than a bumper pull. Add to that the 450 has an excellent turning radius considering it’s size I was just wondering what I was missing. With a GN, you can turn much sharper without fear of jack knifing against the bumper, just worry about the cab

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Old 01-26-2019, 07:07 AM
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I’m sorry,..... Truthfully I have little sympathy for him and don’t really care about the guys new boat, I just hope he learned a lesson.
Would you have wanted to be next to him in your car with your family and children if this had gone down differently!?!?!? There could have been a bunch of funerals being planned instead of worrying if that will ‘buff out’.
There is no excuse for not strapping a boat down properly. I read people talking about “it is to heavy”, or “what kind of strap will hold that weight”. It is the driver’s responsibility to strap it down properly even if that means chains.
Do you want to be driving with your family next to a trailer with a 10,000 pound excavator just sitting on it with no chains and get into an accident? —— No difference.

I have been on interstates and have seen boats with no tie downs and just wonder what are people thinking?!?!?
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by homeby51 View Post
I tie my boat down all the time but I wonder if that would have mattered? That's a lot of force to stop.
The straps are to stop the boat from moving in the first place, not to stop it once it's started sliding. The breakaway force required for a boat sitting on bunks is considerable but once it's started moving it doesn't take much to keep it moving. Objects in motion want to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force, that boat is doing whatever speed the truck is doing so that's a lot of inertia if the truck suddenly wants to stop. The only thing holding it in place is the friction between it and the trailer, the front bow roller, and the straps. If you don't have it tight on the trailer and it starts sliding it takes a lot less force to keep sliding than it does to keep it from sliding in the first place. The bottom line is you need the straps on and you need it tight against the bow roller. I'm purely guessing but I'd venture that the boat wasn't all the way against the bow roller on the trailer, it probably failed because it got a running start at it.

Someone mentioned markings on the pavement from the anti lock brakes. I think those are the rumble strips they cut in pavement to let you know you're over the edge, not marks from the tires skidding.
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:15 AM
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That's really a shame. Makes me sick to see this happen. On a lighter note, in the first photo, he's not putting out a fender is he?
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:21 AM
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Wonder if it was the owner or a transport
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:37 AM
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F'me that sucks.
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:45 AM
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Gonna take a big crane and a long time to clean that mess up
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryCrow View Post
The straps are to stop the boat from moving in the first place, not to stop it once it's started sliding. The breakaway force required for a boat sitting on bunks is considerable but once it's started moving it doesn't take much to keep it moving. Objects in motion want to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force, that boat is doing whatever speed the truck is doing so that's a lot of inertia if the truck suddenly wants to stop. The only thing holding it in place is the friction between it and the trailer, the front bow roller, and the straps. If you don't have it tight on the trailer and it starts sliding it takes a lot less force to keep sliding than it does to keep it from sliding in the first place. The bottom line is you need the straps on and you need it tight against the bow roller. I'm purely guessing but I'd venture that the boat wasn't all the way against the bow roller on the trailer, it probably failed because it got a running start at it.

Someone mentioned markings on the pavement from the anti lock brakes. I think those are the rumble strips they cut in pavement to let you know you're over the edge, not marks from the tires skidding.
Trailer brakes clearly failed of would not have happened. Sorry for that guy. Pretty obviously came from dealer w/o tie downs
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryCrow View Post
The straps are to stop the boat from moving in the first place, not to stop it once it's started sliding. The breakaway force required for a boat sitting on bunks is considerable but once it's started moving it doesn't take much to keep it moving. Objects in motion want to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force, that boat is doing whatever speed the truck is doing so that's a lot of inertia if the truck suddenly wants to stop. The only thing holding it in place is the friction between it and the trailer, the front bow roller, and the straps. If you don't have it tight on the trailer and it starts sliding it takes a lot less force to keep sliding than it does to keep it from sliding in the first place. The bottom line is you need the straps on and you need it tight against the bow roller. I'm purely guessing but I'd venture that the boat wasn't all the way against the bow roller on the trailer, it probably failed because it got a running start at it.

Someone mentioned markings on the pavement from the anti lock brakes. I think those are the rumble strips they cut in pavement to let you know you're over the edge, not marks from the tires skidding.
I was told this by a wise old man once when I started trucking, that the best way to stop something from moving is to never let it get started.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:40 AM
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Always keep your boat snug against the bow stop! I must be guilty of not strapping down enough since I "only" use the front winch strap and safety chain and a pair of transom straps.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:52 AM
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Oh my. I’m hope those weren’t professional movers.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:58 AM
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One way or another you will get noticed in a bad ass rig like that. Sucks for him it had to be this way.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:08 AM
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:12 AM
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That should buff right out!!

straps from midship cleat to rear of trailer should prevent the boat from starting to move, at the very least expel a lot of energy before the straps break preventing the boat from traveling so far forward.

But it I am guilty of not strapping down as well as I should!

sorry to see that happen to any rig especially that rig
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post

Goosenecks are awesome for the long haul but suck really bad with a long DRW short turning radius truck at tight boat ramps..IMHO
I don't get it, big Dan.

Goosenecks are far more maneuverable in my experience
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