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Old 01-23-2019, 08:32 AM
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I daydream a lot about having a larger 30 - 40' cruiser type boat to weekend on, do trips up/down the ditch, take island hopping in the Bahamas. I look at boats like Sea Rays which can be had a a relatively cheap price used but know they do not do offshore well. What are some options for a well rounded, dependable, cruiser type boat, that isn't TOO expensive (let's say not over 150k used), and has some offshore abilities.
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my first choice would be a mid 30's tiara.
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Originally Posted by leetke View Post
I daydream a lot about having a larger 30 - 40' cruiser type boat to weekend on, do trips up/down the ditch, take island hopping in the Bahamas. I look at boats like Sea Rays which can be had a a relatively cheap price used but know they do not do offshore well. What are some options for a well rounded, dependable, cruiser type boat, that isn't TOO expensive (let's say not over 150k used), and has some offshore abilities.
Since you are considering Sea-Ray, take a look at their Ambejack model, good cruising/fishing layout.
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:02 AM
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If you want to spend more time fishing/outdoors then something like this express would work well.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...erman-3240878/
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If you want to spend more time fishing/outdoors then something like this express would work well.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...erman-3240878/
That's pretty cool.
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Depends on what you will use it for. A Sea Ray style boat (think shaped to take advantage of cabin space, more than cut waves) will give you lots of creature comforts for sitting and relaxing. It won't do so well in bigger seas and will be mostly useless for fishing. This will hold true with most of those style express cruisers. Tiara, Pursuit and others start to bridge the gap between fishing express and family cruiser. Then you get into the fishing style boats (probably where I would land the 38' Topaz that was linked). These will be geared towards fishing but the ride will be much better.

I would ask around your marina(s) of some owners of similar boats. See if they are using them and if they enjoy them. If all the Sea Ray owners are dock queens that may be a sign. If most of them are doing exactly what you want and have nothing but good things to say, it could lean you in that direction.
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Depends on what you will use it for. A Sea Ray style boat (think shaped to take advantage of cabin space, more than cut waves) will give you lots of creature comforts for sitting and relaxing. It won't do so well in bigger seas and will be mostly useless for fishing. This will hold true with most of those style express cruisers. Tiara, Pursuit and others start to bridge the gap between fishing express and family cruiser. Then you get into the fishing style boats (probably where I would land the 38' Topaz that was linked). These will be geared towards fishing but the ride will be much better.

I would ask around your marina(s) of some owners of similar boats. See if they are using them and if they enjoy them. If all the Sea Ray owners are dock queens that may be a sign. If most of them are doing exactly what you want and have nothing but good things to say, it could lean you in that direction.
That's why I mentioned Sea Ray but knew it wouldn't be ideal for a lot of what I would like to do. A lot of time for me would be just hanging out on it or cruising to a beach, but I would also like to be able to get out offshore from time to time.
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Originally Posted by leetke View Post
That's why I mentioned Sea Ray but knew it wouldn't be ideal for a lot of what I would like to do. A lot of time for me would be just hanging out on it or cruising to a beach, but I would also like to be able to get out offshore from time to time.
Like I mention before, if the above mention is your preferred style of boating, take a look at the Sea Ray Amberjack between 2000/2005, a boat design specifically for that usage, you may be lucky and find a diesel powered one.
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Like I mention before, if the above mention is your preferred style of boating, take a look at the Sea Ray Amberjack between 2000/2005, a boat design specifically for that usage, you may be lucky and find a diesel powered one.
Looks like they quit making them around 2008 and used ones are ~$65K. That's an option!
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my first choice would be a mid 30's tiara.
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What kind of maintenance costs are you seeing on an older Tiara? I know that is a very general question but just overall per month/year?
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What kind of maintenance costs are you seeing on an older Tiara? I know that is a very general question but just overall per month/year?
Oh man, that's tough - I bought the boat in July, so it's a bit early and I've been playing catch-up on several survey findings.

Here's what's been done:
- Bottom Paint
- Rebed swim platform & replace hardware
- Elbow/riser gaskets replaced
- Battery Charger replaced
- Misc bulbs & circuit breakers replaced

If I had farmed it all out, I'd be looking at about $1k per month for the almost 6 months I've had her. I've had the bottom paint and swim platform done, and done the rest myself. It's probably run about $500 per month.

I expect this to slow down, but there are a few more things to do. My regular maintenance looks like elbows/risers every 5 years, bottom paint every 2-3, 3x oil changes per year, plus keeping her pretty, plus random things that come up...I'm thinking $2-300 per month is probably what I'll spend. Unless something big breaks, and then who knows?
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Maybe a formula 34 PC would fit the bill. First thing that came to my mind.

it's an outdrive boat but will ride better than a sea gay
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You can pick up a 36 flybridge sport fish diesel at a great price these days
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Originally Posted by MrWesson View Post
If you want to spend more time fishing/outdoors then something like this express would work well.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...erman-3240878/
That's beautiful! They were ahead of their time for sure...

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If you are only going to go offshore from "time to time", and really want the creature comforts of a sea ray Amberjack sounds good. Even the Amberjack still sucks for rough water, so you'll still have to pick your days to go offshore unless you like beating yourself to death. I love my Albemarle 320 express. I cruise/sandbars a lot at times. Then I get the bug to go offshore twice a week for a couple months then it's just sandbars snorkeling, cruising, restaurants again for a few months. I can't stand a boat that pounds. That Topaz linked above is very NICE at a good price if the survey checks out.
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33' or....... 38' Fountain Sport Cruiser
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Originally Posted by leetke View Post
I daydream a lot about having a larger 30 - 40' cruiser type boat to weekend on, do trips up/down the ditch, take island hopping in the Bahamas. I look at boats like Sea Rays which can be had a a relatively cheap price used but know they do not do offshore well. What are some options for a well rounded, dependable, cruiser type boat, that isn't TOO expensive (let's say not over 150k used), and has some offshore abilities.
i share the daydream

Lots of suggestions, to help cut it down:
- what speed are you looking at?
- is fuel burn a thing?
- 30-40 is a big range, how many people? 30 is tight for 2 over a weekend (my opinion)
- express or convertible?

As mentioned, you could get an awesome older sportfish (convertible or express) with diesels and have a killer ride. Or something more downeast. So many options
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I love.my 32’ blackfin flybridge
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Originally Posted by scarab63 View Post
Maybe a formula 34 PC would fit the bill. First thing that came to my mind.

it's an outdrive boat but will ride better than a sea gay
We just bought one, but I haven't had it out in any rougher seas yet. The Formula will for sure handle them better than a sea ray, but not like an older sportfish or express.
The 04+ boats are good looking boats also, and rigged like you would expect a Formula. 08+ has hard top, and optional Axius.

If you go to 40 ft then a 40pc with diesels would be a great option more on the cruiser side.

Actually the 37pc is what everyone says is the best size for the gas engine PC's. We couldn't fit at our current marina so went with 34.
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