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Old 08-31-2006, 11:12 PM
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Ok le tme start by saying I AM NOT RICH!!!!! NOR DO I PLAN TO BE!!!!!!
ok now! I have a great 32 luhrs with new motors that has been great to me. However my two kids are getting bigger so here goes....

Me and the missus 2 kids

passions over nighting in New England Rivers and waterways fishing the new england canyons 1-2 days at a time

the 32 is getting a little small as the boys grow up. thinking about a 30something-40something diesel for the above mentioned.

what is recomended? my first need is two staterooms or a minimum of a second bedroom for the boys! second range. the canyons are 100 miles away!! and I never disobey the 2/3 rule. (so always leave 1/3 fuel in reserve so I need a 300 mile range)

ummm she like two pillow fight in her underwear ok that's all. Oh wait price let's be real I am a real person and price matters!

So now what would you buy? 40" lurhs?, 38 ocean? how about a henrique? older hatterus?
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buy the blackfin on the sale forum
Old 08-31-2006, 11:29 PM
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I love the 40' Ocean Yacht express......but I get a lot of grief for liking it.


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Old 09-01-2006, 12:19 AM
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The 38 blackfin for sale here is a steal and are awesome sea boats.
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I have a 38' Blackfin and use the boat in much the same way you do. Beach trip one weekend, inshore fishing another, shark tournaments, a New England cruise during the summer, canyon trips when the time is right... On my third season with it now and very happy. Great riding boat, the cockpit is perfect for canyon trips (122 sq feet), and enough room for comfortable cruising for 4. It really works well for both purposes, a lot of boats in that size range have small cockpits which will get cramped on canyon overnighters.

One thing though since you stressed price is important - it's expensive running boats that size. Figure 40 gph at cruise, diesel parts can be expensive if you have problems, bigger boat means more things to work on. Make sure whatever you choose you budget enough money for the inevitable repairs and upgrades.

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i have a 36 ,2004 Luhrs for sale. One helluva deal. Contact me.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:27 AM
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What ever you buy,look at what the boat cost,10% for that will cost to run it per year unless you don't do the maintences yourself,then the cost can jump up to as much as 30% per year.Blackfin would be first,for buck to buck return on moneys!
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Let's see. I think the first stated need was to have a guest stateroom. That, does not mean a convertable galley or sofa in the main cabin. The separate cabin need is going to eliminate a bunch of high 30s/low 40s SFs right of the top.

So how much time is spent cruising compared to offshore fishing? It appears overnighting is important. For that, you had better keep the Admiral happy. How many fishing friends do you have who have fishingboats & don't overnight except to fish, i.e. human comforts onboard are of secondary importance to fishability? Catch a ride with one of them if you only want to fish a few times a year.

Now go find a boat that is most suitable for what you do the majority of the time.
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40' luhrs - great boat! new I believe in the 600k range! (something to think about)

I agree with the 38 blackfin....Perfect size boat, for the family/crew, and right at the cut off (for me) where it gets a bit expensive to run/maintain.......

gaggleheads blackfin on this site is the BEST bargain on a blackfin that clean that I've seen! @112k!

Flatwater....Id love to see price/pics & stats for your 36!
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Talk about deja vu.
Weather permitting, tomorrow we're picking up our Sea Ray 390 EC, Cat power.
You didn't say what your budget is, but ours was around 80K. Like you, two boys ages 9 & 14, and our 29 footer no longer housed us comfortably. Two REAL staterooms was a must for us, also.
The older Hatts (41, 42) were a possibility, but the ones we could find in our price range were mostly original and in need of serious updating; but with that said they're a nice boat. Downside to them was the forward V-berth, we wanted an island queen.
Other convertibles such as Egg Harbor and Pace had a two stateroom version, but they were not common (dinettes were more so). We put a deposit down on a 36' Chris- which is a great boat by the way- but she was powered by big blocks and had numerous problems at time of sea trial I didn't want to deal with, so I rejected the boat.
So, we decided to look at expresses. I like to occasionally dive and fish, so in addition to being a cruising boat for the family she had to be suitable for that as well. Didn't want V-drives, didn't like the so-called aft-cabins; they're not really private and the boys wanted two separate berths instead of sharing sometjhing the size of a twin bed. I knew that particularly as they continue to grow, two separate berths was going to be a requirement. The over/under berth arrangement on the Sea Ray 390 was perfect- what a neat interior design. The second stateroom has a drop-down mirrored panel that provides privacy as a stateroom, but drop the panel and the upper berth and the area becomes part of the salon with another seating area.

If you've got upwards of 125K to spend the convertible market has some good boats with the two stateroom setup. Also liked the 40 Ocean ('79)- HUGE salon; nice , fast rig with the Detroits. Good luck!
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Well, we just did a 5 day trip around the archipelago here with my friends '89 (I think) Sea Ray 220DA. We were 5 adults (plus the occasional female visitor, more on that in the Sand Bar... ) and had no problems with accomodations whatsoever. Of course, if you want to do some fishing as well, that might not be the best boat for it...

OK, now that I re-read your original post, I seem to be way out of line here...
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rp, look at my recent thread about 40ish convertibles, lot of this has recently been discussed althugh I suspect you are looking at older boats. The biggest diffence is my kids are teenswho can pilot the boat and handle the rods. If you have to do a lot of the drivng and fishing responsibiliies, think express so you can be close to the action. Which one? You'll have to balance ride, price, engine hours and whats commonly available in your area. I've fished the Luhrs 40 express, nice boat but ride is little on the rough side, IMHO
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Rp,

I know your boat and your situation all too well. I've often considered the same upgrade - our 32' Trojan is small at times for me the misses and 2 kids. We'd like a second stateroom, a seperate shower stall, more cockpit space and a larger bridge and at least the same speed potential (I just can't do trawler speeds- kinda wish I could). I'm not now or for the foreseeable future going to be rich either.

As I'm sure many of us do, I dream alot about what my next boat would be. I've considered Bertram 33 & 35, the latest Silverton 34c, the newer luhrs 36 tournament SF and even the mainship 400. My problem is to go big enough to "have all the wants" you need to be in the 38-42' range and the overall cost of ownership is out of "realistic" reach for us on disposable income. Everything below that is still a compromise so we live with what we own. Good topic though- it's nice to see what other people consider and now is a good time to buy. Selling the current boat may become the harder task.
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rpmunroe - 8/31/2006 10:12 PM

Ok le tme start by saying I AM NOT RICH!!!!! NOR DO I PLAN TO BE!!!!!!
ok now! I have a great 32 luhrs with new motors that has been great to me. However my two kids are getting bigger so here goes....

Me and the missus 2 kids

passions over nighting in New England Rivers and waterways fishing the new england canyons 1-2 days at a time

the 32 is getting a little small as the boys grow up. thinking about a 30something-40something diesel for the above mentioned.

what is recomended? my first need is two staterooms or a minimum of a second bedroom for the boys! second range. the canyons are 100 miles away!! and I never disobey the 2/3 rule. (so always leave 1/3 fuel in reserve so I need a 300 mile range)

ummm she like two pillow fight in her underwear ok that's all. Oh wait price let's be real I am a real person and price matters!

So now what would you buy? 40" lurhs?, 38 ocean? how about a henrique? older hatterus?
Pacemakers are solid boats. My Dad had his boat brought down from the North to Florida without issue, it is for sale here:

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40 Ocean Sport Fish (Express) will give you two actual staterooms in a 40 class express. Pretty rare. Sleep another person on the couch and you've got space. They raise fish, economical to run and can be had easily well under $300K. If you are willing to do a convertible then there are a lot more options to consider.
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If you want inexpensive and rugged go with an older 35, 38 or 42 Bertram. Great boats. If your wife likes pretty go with the 37 Egg. I'm not just saying that because I have one for sale either. The boats run great and have a beautifull interior. Hard to go wrong with a 38 Blackfin also.
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You won't get 2 staterooms in very many (any?) expresses under 40+ feet so you might be stuck looking at convertibles; there are a few 2 stateroom viking 43's out there but too expensive. The 40 Luhrs you mentioned doesn't have a second stateroom but there are a lot on the market
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http://www.silverton.com/models/33C/33ConvPlan06.html
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Not to derail the topic but I have a quick question. What and where are these canyons I see people posting about? I was born and raised in South Florida and the only canyons I have heard of are the ones like the Grand Canyon.

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