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Old 01-10-2019, 11:24 PM
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Hey guys I work offshore and my spotlights are just not cutting it at times looking for buoys debris etc in the water. I plan to mount a 12v led light bar to the bow and angle it to light up my vision in front of the boat while driving. However, Im wondering what is the best led bar to use in the marine world? I was looking through amazon but not sure if I believe the claims made by several of the led bars there..What amount of lumens would I need to light up several hundred feet in front of the boat ? I also came across Black Oak LEDs they claim to use the best quality possible but the mark up is 10 times whats on amazon....Please guide me in the right direction thanks!!
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:45 PM
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Get ready for the haters. They are already getting their "I know better than you speech ready". You're fixing to hear the same old beat down arguements. If it's for work purposes then I see no problem just be courteous. Every commercial boat out there blast bright lights at night. Not one person who bitches on here about them has never beat anyone up or shot anyone over a light bar like they claim they're going to do.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:54 AM
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My Brother put a big curved Black Oak bar on a Viking and it's wild how much light it puts out. Like day time. I have experience with a 20" Aurora 200w light that puts out enough light to see all the buoys in a channel and to run at speed offshore seeing the water. The light is so bright that halfbeaks shower when the light hits them offshore.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:22 AM
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Yep,..... here we go again.......

I suppose they are fine when you are literally not within sight of any other boat. That said, they really are illegal (you cannot show lights that would be confusing or misleading, and a lightbar would certainly mask out the visibility of your required navigation lights). Also, when you turn off the light bar (when seeing another boat in the distance) you will have greatly reduced night vision for up to 20 minutes.

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Old 01-11-2019, 06:23 AM
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jbg108 : Do you recommend the black oak or the Aurora brand? I found an aurora 50 inch for 359 great price if it can do what it says
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I dont see why someone would pay 1000 vs 359 if both lights can do the same thing? I did notice black oak claims the 50 inch bar can throw light 2000 meters! Thats actually pretty insane & I really dont need light to go 6000 feet in front of me moving 8mph lol.. The black oak would somehow need to be a night and day difference in terms of light but if there lumen output is the same & they both use aluminum and stainless brackets then how can black oak be so much more?!
I Made this thread bc the black oak is really pricey I think almost 1000 for the 50 inch version and Im just wondering if its really that much better than the led bars being sold on amazon for only 100...? The good thing about amazon is if the light bar just doesnt meet my needs I can always return it and get my money back while the black oak Im not so sure if they allow returns if its not going to suit my needs. If the black oak is a night and day difference compared to the stuff on amazon then maybe the price difference is justified. Whenever I look for a bar I always look at the lumen output and several on amazon claim 27k up to 40k while the black oak is around 40 to 50k but 10 times the cost. I have bought one led bar from amazon about year and half ago that is still working for only 30 bux and it works great actually.. However, the biggest problem I noticed with it is that all the mounting brackets & even sum of the housing of the light is corroding in several sections. I dont see how the black oak can be priced so high when even the light bars on amazon claim to use aluminum, have stainless steel brackets, & lumen wise output similar to what black oak does? If someone can help in this area Id appreciate it I just dont want to be paying 10 times more if i can get something on amazon that is good enough for 10 times less!
This will be mounted on the front awning aluminum bar on a 60 ft oyster boat that moves at 8 to 10mph only. I dont plan to use it in the bayous where other boats are docked. Only plan to use it once I get out where there really are no boats at night time and lots of buoys scattered in the water. 99% of the time Im the only boat out at night so I dont think blinding people will be an issue as for me I don't need the bar to see land, other boats etc just buoys scattered in the water. I plan to angle the light down so it really just lights up several hundred feet right in front of the boat to avoid buoys and debris & if there is an oncoming vessel Id prob shut the light off bc I know how blinding these can be. Several other Oyster fishing vessels use the same lights from amazon without any issues on the water.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:24 AM
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Hey guys I work offshore and my spotlights are just not cutting it at times looking for buoys debris etc in the water. I plan to mount a 12v led light bar to the bow and angle it to light up my vision in front of the boat while driving. However, Im wondering what is the best led bar to use in the marine world? I was looking through amazon but not sure if I believe the claims made by several of the led bars there..What amount of lumens would I need to light up several hundred feet in front of the boat ? I also came across Black Oak LEDs they claim to use the best quality possible but the mark up is 10 times whats on amazon....Please guide me in the right direction thanks!!
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Lumitec has a new LED bar the "Razor" that is dimmable like the rest of their stuff, seems like a real nice bar but pricy. It is on my short list right now.

I looked at the black oak but don't care for there perpetual 15% off "sale" they have, that kind of marketing bs makes me nuts
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:28 AM
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Lumitec Razor. They can be had for $560.00
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:50 AM
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jbg108 : Do you recommend the black oak or the Aurora brand? I found an aurora 50 inch for 359 great price if it can do what it says https://www.amazon.com/Aurora-Inch-Off-Road-Light/dp/B07GTYKRC8/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1547213112&sr= 1-4&keywords=Aurora+led+bar I dont see why someone would pay 1000 vs 359 if both lights can do the same thing? I did notice black oak claims the 50 inch bar can throw light 2000 meters! Thats actually pretty insane & I really dont need light to go 6000 feet in front of me moving 8mph lol.. The black oak would somehow need to be a night and day difference in terms of light but if there lumen output is the same & they both use aluminum and stainless brackets then how can black oak be so much more?!
I Made this thread bc the black oak is really pricey I think almost 1000 for the 50 inch version and Im just wondering if its really that much better than the led bars being sold on amazon for only 100...? The good thing about amazon is if the light bar just doesnt meet my needs I can always return it and get my money back while the black oak Im not so sure if they allow returns if its not going to suit my needs. If the black oak is a night and day difference compared to the stuff on amazon then maybe the price difference is justified. Whenever I look for a bar I always look at the lumen output and several on amazon claim 27k up to 40k while the black oak is around 40 to 50k but 10 times the cost. I have bought one led bar from amazon about year and half ago that is still working for only 30 bux and it works great actually.. However, the biggest problem I noticed with it is that all the mounting brackets & even sum of the housing of the light is corroding in several sections. I dont see how the black oak can be priced so high when even the light bars on amazon claim to use aluminum, have stainless steel brackets, & lumen wise output similar to what black oak does? If someone can help in this area Id appreciate it I just dont want to be paying 10 times more if i can get something on amazon that is good enough for 10 times less!
This will be mounted on the front awning aluminum bar on a 60 ft oyster boat that moves at 8 to 10mph only. I dont plan to use it in the bayous where other boats are docked. Only plan to use it once I get out where there really are no boats at night time and lots of buoys scattered in the water. 99% of the time Im the only boat out at night so I dont think blinding people will be an issue as for me I don't need the bar to see land, other boats etc just buoys scattered in the water. I plan to angle the light down so it really just lights up several hundred feet right in front of the boat to avoid buoys and debris & if there is an oncoming vessel Id prob shut the light off bc I know how blinding these can be. Several other Oyster fishing vessels use the same lights from amazon without any issues on the water.

I bet the Aurora throws as much or more light and you will be blown away. I think the 20" 200w light is more than enough so the 500W 50" will be insane. make sure it's a combo pattern. Since you are mounting on a working boat I recommend replacing as much hardware as you can up front with known stainless so it holds up. Mine have held up fine but there isn't a lick of salt on the boat when she's put away. I'm sure yours will live a hard life.
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On the previously -forecast negative side , with apologies,....:

For best effect, mount it forward and aimed toward the helm. This will allow the operator to enjoy the same as anyone else within miles (plural!) of its beam would if it were aimed forward, aft or anywhere else at them.

In spite of initially-claimed limited-use intentions , it seems these bars inevitably get used as incredibly-blinding boat-headlights in near constant nightime use as USCG regs infraction, inviting boat rage response . When they are aimed directly or reflected off the water at another boater for even just a second or 2 from miles away , that other operator's night vision is ruined for a long time. That's dangerous as hell. I've been there way too many times to not comment when this subject pops back up. Do unto others...

If you do feel the irresistable need to mount one of these , PLEASE be one of the very few who use it more responsibly than most either selfish or clueless inconsiderates who have them and abuse their use. THANK YOU if you are.

That said, Happy and Safe Boating!
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Originally Posted by MistaBobDobalina View Post
Lumitec has a new LED bar the "Razor" that is dimmable like the rest of their stuff, seems like a real nice bar but pricy. It is on my short list right now.

I looked at the black oak but don't care for there perpetual 15% off "sale" they have, that kind of marketing bs makes me nuts
I used to rep Lumitec and I can't tell you how many people would co e up to us at shows and ask if we had a light bar. I'm glad to see they finally came up with one. It looks great. Lumitec makes a first rate product and I'd recommend it on that basis alone, without even having seen it myself.

As for the people saying light bars are illegal, you're just plain wrong. Commercial vessels use flood lights all the time. Cruise ships are LITERALLY lit up like Christmas trees.

The restrictions are to prevent people from using lights that are deliberately intended to confuse other vessels. Flood lighting is perfectly legal. Just don't gow shining it in some other guy's face in a narrow channel.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:26 AM
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Looked into the lumitec but i dont think its going to work for my situation...As I said earlier I want to be able to angle this light down on the front of the boat. I do not want the light to be shooting straight & 10k lumens is just not enough. It seems the lumitec is not built to tilt at any angle you want..Also Im debating whether I need a light that is curved instead of straight across so the Aurura might not work either...Anymore help is appreciated!
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We left the dock before daylight quite a few times this past season and did it the old fashioned way. When boats with led’s were riding towards us with the light on, yes it was very blinding and was so for quite a few minutes after they finally turned them off. When boats would come up behind us, yes, it was bright, but it actually seemed worse on us if they turned them on/off every so often as compared to one instance when a particular boat decided to leave his on while staying 40/50 yards or so behind us. I actually was a little pissed at first, but quickly realized that it benefited me. I was amazed that my eyes adjusted so quickly and was equally amazed at how well it lit up the channel. Like someone posted earlier, it was almost like daylight. Well, they eventually passed us before reaching the inlet and we were back to doing it the old way. Well, that trip changed my mind about the led light bars and I will eventually have one on my boat for those dark mornings. Following this thread OP.
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I have a 10 inch Black Oak LED bar on my Everglades 243- its mounted on the T Top.

It looks cool but I never use it - and I run out in the dark a lot.

I would not buy another one.
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Get some truck nuts to hang in-between your outboards to go with that light bar.
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The restrictions are to prevent people from using lights that are deliberately intended to confuse other vessels. Flood lighting is perfectly legal. Just don't gow shining it in some other guy's face in a narrow channel.
So you are telling me that If I am unable to see your navigation lights due to the overwhelming light bar that is permissible within Colregs?
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Any of you na-sayers ever seen the spot lights that push boats use they reach a mile or so
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This fascinating topic has been beaten far beyond death on THT, including claims of illegality and quoting of regulations. . However, I have posed the following, and no one can provide an answer: I live on both the Tennessee River and on the Intracoastal in Alabama. Every night, multiple barges go by both. Each barge has a spotlight that truly is bright, to the point of being uncomfortable at more than a mile, and blinding at shorter distances. They light up the inside of our residence, and when I am boating at night whatever boat I am in. Unless barges are given special dispensation, which I cannot find in the regulations, a damn bright light is legal on the Inland waterways. I do not like them, except when trying to find a marker or obscure cut into the brush to find a duck blind, but they do have a purpose...
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:01 PM
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Well since the guy above mentioned the black oak he would not buy another lets stick to the ones on amazon. Which ones are built to last, put out the lumens they claim & are actually good with all aluminum and stainless steel parts? Several Ive looked into were nilight ,yitamotor, if anyone else can chime in on which brand would be best to choose on amazon Id highly appreciate it!
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