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Old 01-08-2019, 06:54 PM
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Getting down to the wire on a repower decision. Two final candidates are a Tohatsu/Honda 250 vs Suzuki 300. Both dealers relatively close, Suzuki is a few more $$ but is FBW, I like the color better (white) and then there is the 50hp. Iíve been searching high and low for a year now, not a lot of bad reports on either engine to be found but there is virtually nothing negative to be found on line about the Honda/Tohatsu. Reliability is either flawless or not enough of them out there for people to complain about.

Not a lot of bad on the Suzuki either but more then the Honda/Tohatsu, some electrical glitches and lower units getting stuck, the later possibly maintenance related but over all not a lot of bad on the Suzuki 300 and I suspect more Suzukis units out there to complain about.

Boat is a Parker 2520 usage 200ish hours a year. All of it offshore, fishing and diving. Boat is always heavy and this engine is gonna work hard. I got 1800 hours + out of my F225 before it blew up.

Cost difference not a major issue, neutral on F.B.W. familiar and comfortable with the technology but not a must have. On the other hand I am not avoiding it either.

I will be servicing the engine.

My boat is never gonna be ďFASTĒ if I can get a mid 20kt cruise and WOT in the low-mid 30s, I am ok with that. I expect either engine will have a bit more ďnutĒ then my old F225 and a I lived happily for a long time with that plant.


The Suzuki definitely has more wow factor and I love the white color, however that Honda/Tohatsu just strikes me as a reliable work horse.

Very interested to get opinions from guys who are running either one of these engines.

Thanks in advance.

PS: Iím not interested in an Evinrude or Mercury, so if you must derail the thread have at it but those engines are not players for me.


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Honda is the vtec engine say no more about reliable,they are no frills just known to run.
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Getting down to the wire on a repower decision. Two final candidates are a Tohatsu/Honda 250 vs Suzuki 300. Both dealers relatively close, Suzuki is a few more $$ but is FBW, I like the color better (white) and then there is the 50hp. Iíve been searching high and low for a year now, not a lot of bad reports on either engine to be found but there is virtually nothing negative to be found on line about the Honda/Tohatsu. Reliability is either flawless or not enough of them out there for people to complain about.

Not a lot of bad on the Suzuki either but more then the Honda/Tohatsu, some electrical glitches and lower units getting stuck, the later possibly maintenance related but over all not a lot of bad on the Suzuki 300 and I suspect more Suzukis units out there to complain about.

Boat is a Parker 2520 usage 200ish hours a year. All of it offshore, fishing and diving. Boat is always heavy and this engine is gonna work hard. I got 1800 hours + out of my F225 before it blew up.

Cost difference not a major issue, neutral on F.B.W. familiar and comfortable with the technology but not a must have. On the other hand I am not avoiding it either.

I will be servicing the engine.

My boat is never gonna be ďFASTĒ if I can get a mid 20kt cruise and WOT in the low-mid 30s, I am ok with that. I expect either engine will have a bit more ďnutĒ then my old F225 and a I lived happily for a long time with that plant.


The Suzuki definitely has more wow factor and I love the white color, however that Honda/Tohatsu just strikes me as a reliable work horse.

Very interested to get opinions from guys who are running either one of these engines.

Thanks in advance.

PS: Iím not interested in an Evinrude or Mercury, so if you must derail the thread have it but those engines are not players for me.

I owned a Honda 225, a solid engine that never gave me any issues. Having said that I repowered with a Suzuki 300 and the power is amazing. The extra horsepower means I get way better fuel economy because I donít need to operate at the higher end of the RPM range. At lower RPM I get more performance. I started a thread some time ago when I was considering the repower. Repower: Want only Suzuki 300 owner opinions
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:13 PM
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Honda...is the what?

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Honda is the etec engine say no more about reliable,they are no frills just known to run.
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I have 2 Honda 225's and when I re-power, I'm going to get Suzuki's only because I can't find any dealers close that works on them. Thank goodness they are easy to work on and have a great service manual. I really like the Honda's, but if anything serious goes wrong, I'm traveling an hour to find a dealer. The local Suzuki dealer is on the other side of town.

I called the local Honda motorcycle/boat motor dealer when i bought my boat and they said they would not be interrested in even doing the annual service.
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Honda comes in white.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:31 PM
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Honda comes in white.
Suzuki also comes in white
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That's a lot of boat. 300 all day long. The 300 is bigger displacement over the Toh 250. FBW is awesome to.
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Originally Posted by yachtjim View Post
Honda comes in white.
I am working with a Tohatsu Dealer on a 2018, itís black.
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I am working with a Tohatsu Dealer on a 2018, itís black.
You may not use the extra HP but if you need it it is there. This was my reason to go for the Suzuki over the Honda plus the engine would work less. My mechanic serviced both and he said lugging a heavy boat is not good for the engine. If you are going with two 250ís then go Honda but if you are going with a single engine I would rather the Suzuki 300 all day.
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I donít have any experience with the Honda 225, but my first boat had a Honda 130. Very reliable engine - no complaints at all. I currently have a pair of Suzuki 300ís now. A little over 1100 hours on them. They both run like a top. I had an issue with one of the wiring harness at about 600 hrs - but covered under warranty. I would opt for the Suzy - the extra 50 hp will make a massive difference.
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Plus you have the DV model? With the more deadrise over the MV versions it needs more power.

Isn't the Toh a 3.6 L versus the 4.0 of the Zuke? That does make a difference.
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Plus you have the DV model? With the more deadrise over the MV versions it needs more power.

Isn't the Toh a 3.6 L versus the 4.0 of the Zuke? That does make a difference.

Now that I think of it isnít that Parker a heavy boat? I donít believe the 250hp is wise I think the 300hp is the better choice. Itís a 25í footer not a 21í
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Now that I think of it isn’t that Parker a heavy boat? I don’t believe the 250hp is wise I think the 300hp is the better choice. It’s a 25’ footer not a 21’
Oh yea she is a heavy girl. They still use wood in them. The 23's need 250's to have adequate power.
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Oh yea she is a heavy girl. They still use wood in them. The 23's need 250's to have adequate power.
A buddy of mine has a Parker I believe a 20í or 21í Iíve always liked those boats. Classic build, only hear great things.
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I have a Steiger 25 Miami, which is pretty much the sister boat to yours. Been using a Zuke 250 and am in the process of upgrading to a newer Zuke 300. I've loved the motor! Nothing bad to say about Hondas, but the Suzuki has been great to me and the extra 50HP is def something I'm interested in seeing on the boat!
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I have many hours on a 23,25 and 28. MV and DV models. I lived right by the Parker factory. MV beat you to death. DV ride much better. Nice no thrill boats.
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The big prop on the Suzuki will
push your rig effortlessly. Service is pretty easy.
Honda propping can be a bit challenging. We see almost no Hondas on the West Coast of Fl.


Bottom line youíll love the Zuke power, torque and I bet you crack 3.0 MPG on that heavy slead at 26 mph and top 46.
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Originally Posted by redseacraft View Post
The big prop on the Suzuki will
push your rig effortlessly. Service is pretty easy.
Honda propping can be a bit challenging. We see almost no Hondas on the West Coast of Fl.


Bottom line youíll love the Zuke power, torque and I bet you crack 3.0 MPG on that heavy slead at 26 mph and top 46.

LOL Iíd be happy with 36kts at WOT. My boat wouldnít know what to do with itself at 40kts +. I would be both thrilled and amazed if I ended up even close to your numbers....
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