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Old 01-03-2019, 09:59 AM
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Back in November, my Yamaha F250 threw a rod 30 miles offshore - but - that another story for another time. I was able to take the intake ducts off and find a hole on the port side of the block. I have not had the engine taken down to determine if the damage extends past the block and into the heads. I have been looking at other used motors to determine my best route forward - New, used or repair. It is important to note that I was already planning to upgrade into another boat soon, which plays a big part in how much I want to invest here...

2003 Sailfish 236
2011 Yamaha F250TXR ~550 hrs

My ultimate question is...

For resale, is a new powerhead perceived as a negative? How would a new powerhead change the value of the boat?

SIM Yamaha pointed me toward the block assembly here: https://www.simyamaha.com/category_s...rt-category=41
Item 1, the Updated price is $4,992.00

... and, if I need cylinder heads: https://www.simyamaha.com/category_s...rt-category=27
Items 1 & 9, About $2,000 each.


Option 1: Powerhead replacement ~$7,000 to $11,000 (estimated $2,000 labor???)
Option 2: Used engine
Option 3: New Engine - I don't think this is economical due to the fact that I want to sell the boat.

I value my boat with the electronics package in the low $30ks (before the engine blew)...and I bought this used engine a year ago for $8k.

Again... How would a new powerhead change the value of the boat? As silly as it sounds, if the impact is too negative, I can replace with an engine comparable to the year of the hull for less. I also have the blown engine I can part out or sell as is - not sure the value there.

Thanks for any help you can provide. Also, if there is anything else to add, please do!
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:16 AM
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Buy a used engine if you are thinking of selling soon, there should be plenty around to choose from.
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:20 AM
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id just buy another used one for $8k and slap it on
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:28 AM
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it really comes down to doing a cost benefits analysis CBA. there are many variables. a new (used) engine can blow a year later like this one or once this one is fixed something else can fail on the existing.

have you read your insurance policy to see if you are one of the lucky ones with mechanical coverage that might cover you? it is not often it works that way but there are several members here that have ended up with new engines, power heads, etc, after they 've blown

have you checked the serial numbers to see if there might be any warranty remaining on the engine that blew?
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:31 AM
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buy a similar engine, swap it your self in a couple of hours and call it a day! no reason to pay for a bunch of labor on a boat your going to sell!

as far as new power head vs resale, i think as long as they know why and who did the work, it could help the sale as well as hurt the sale all depending on the buyer.
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:47 AM
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I was going to make a joke about throwing a rod 30 miles........
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:03 AM
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I would prefer to know the history of a motor, like reuilt from good shop compared to Seller slapping used motor on with unknown history.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:37 AM
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Unfortunately, my insurance coverage does not cover this and the engine is too old to be under warranty.

Looks like most folks are saying replace with another used engine... and yes, I would still do my due diligence on checking the engine out - and maybe even put some hours on it myself .

Obviously, my motor shows anything can happen... but it sure stinks to lose $8k just like that. I guess you have to keep repeating to yourself that you returned home safely. It's not helping... ha.
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Old 01-03-2019, 12:33 PM
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Go used with some sort of warranty to pass on to buyer. May find a rebuilder that will take yours in on trade.
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Old 01-04-2019, 05:17 AM
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How bout this........sell it now,and let the buyer repower with his choice.
Easy for you,better for him.
Ive bought and sold a few doing it this way.
keep it simple!
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How bout this........sell it now,and let the buyer repower with his choice.
Easy for you,better for him.
Ive bought and sold a few doing it this way.
keep it simple!
I would try this option also. If it's worth $30K running. List it for $20K needing re-power and see what happens. It will be a more difficult sell as 90% wont want to buy a boat that needs work and it is not the right time of year to sell a boat. (at least anywhere but Florida).
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Old 01-04-2019, 05:55 AM
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Used outboards can be fine - just do your homework like buying anything.

Check seller reputation, get everything in writing. Reputable operations will provide all without hassle.
Lots of traded in motors out there - that run perfectly, and sold for 1/2 new or less.
Regarding re sale - that's not an issue at all - it's all about how it runs.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:09 AM
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when i look at a boat the "new power head" statement does not really calculate into the equation for me. let me explain, the boat with a running engine x numbers of years and hours old is worth so much. new parts don't bring anything to the party because they are usually attached to old parts. all of the parts have to work or the motor is useless. a car is not worth more because it has new tires or a new transmission, they kind of need to be there to make it a usable car. same with an outboard if it don't run it has no value to a buyer, if it runs it is only worth as much as it's model year or in service year.
if i was in the op's shoes i would find a used f250 with reasonable hours, negotiate the hell out of the price, rig the boat, and slap a for sale sign on it. he would now have a running boat that is inherently more valuable than a not running one. he would also save about 5-7 grand vs doing a new power head plus everything else that breaks coming off. the blown engine can be parted out to recoup some of his money.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:33 AM
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you aren't out the whole $8k. if you don't mind shipping stuff then sell all the good parts or just sell the whole engine as is
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:54 AM
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Why not offer it up as is while you look for options. Sombody might come along and save you some trouble. Look at what you would realistically get for it fixed then figure how much time and money you would spend fixing. Either way your motor blew up and it's gonna cost you. If your in a hole sometimes its best to quit digging.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:13 AM
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Sometimes a twin engine boat blows a motor, then owner decides to repower with two new. That leaves one decent engine for sale.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:58 AM
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I'd sell it "as is" rather than sink any more money in a boat that you were planning to sell before the engine incident.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:13 AM
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just remember that a boat that doesnt run is not worth much to most people. the average buyer does not want to buy some thing and then go through the hassle of looking for an engine to outfit with. People who will buy that boat may already have an engine but they will negotiate the hell out of any asking price.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:36 AM
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https://www.thehulltruth.com/parts-f...25-3250-a.html

if this is plug and play, I would go with this option since you are planning on selling the boat
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:45 PM
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I agree with trying to sell as is. It costs you nothing to do so, you just list it.

Personally, when looking at a used boat, I want to repower anyway.
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