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Old 12-15-2018, 03:55 PM
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Saw the video on FB, boat appears to have handled it very well. Something about the boat hitting a concrete barge at 35, does anyone know the story or have the pictures? There may have been a build thread here on the boat it had 175 Etecs, hopefully it wasn't Pathfinder44's he just got that thing. Also said there were injuries but all aboard were ok and they drove the boat back to the dock, so there's at least some good news.
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Saw the video on FB, boat appears to have handled it very well. Something about the boat hitting a concrete barge at 35, does anyone know the story or have the pictures? There may have been a build thread here on the boat it had 175 Etecs, hopefully it wasn't Pathfinder44's he just got that thing. Also said there were injuries but all aboard were ok and they drove the boat back to the dock, so there's at least some good news.
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It's just the video of the damage while it's back on the trailer. Not video of the incident.

ttop was broken and console from the sudden stop. Both bows punched in
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Must have needed more light bars, radar, flir, subwoofers,or horsepower and this would have never happened.
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I bet they drove it straight back to the dock to go home and sleep off the alcohol! Damn.
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Link isn’t working. Looks like the video may have been taken down.
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It was not my boat. However it was my twin, accident happened in LA all walked away form the accident. The captain did sustain some pretty bad injuries and the crew had a few scratches. They were running in at night and took eyes off for just a short time. I posted the the vid to show the quality of boat that steve builds and that it would sustain such an impact and still get the crew safely back home which it did. No alcohol involved. I will try and figure out how to post here.
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Originally Posted by pathfinder44 View Post
It was not my boat. However it was my twin, accident happened in LA all walked away form the accident. The captain did sustain some pretty bad injuries and the crew had a few scratches. They were running in at night and took eyes off for just a short time. I posted the the vid to show the quality of boat that steve builds and that it would sustain such an impact and still get the crew safely back home which it did. No alcohol involved. I will try and figure out how to post here.
Lucky to be alive. Any word on what was they hit?
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OP said it was a concrete barge
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Originally Posted by pathfinder44 View Post
It was not my boat. However it was my twin, accident happened in LA all walked away form the accident. The captain did sustain some pretty bad injuries and the crew had a few scratches. They were running in at night and took eyes off for just a short time. I posted the the vid to show the quality of boat that steve builds and that it would sustain such an impact and still get the crew safely back home which it did. No alcohol involved. I will try and figure out how to post here.
Glad no one was killed. 10-4 about the lack of alcohol.
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Originally Posted by Chillinthemost View Post
Must have needed more light bars, radar, flir, subwoofers,or horsepower and this would have never happened.
Well actually there was a crew boat near us so I didn't have the LED light bar on. I didn't want to ruin his night vision. GPS and radar were both on and operating properly. I hadn't been drinking, I had just finished work and driven to Venice. I'm a dentist and I think my patients wouldn't appreciate me working while impaired. I only use the light bar when approaching an unlit rig offshore or a private dock I use in Destin that is unlit. Stereo is really awesome however it was not on. And yes it has a badass subwoofer.

I had been having issues with the engines stalling when changing from forward to reverse or vice versa at idle speeds. Sometimes port. sometimes starboard. Very erratic and unpredictable. Last year approaching a rig offshore to tie up, both engines killed and we drifted into the rig and sustained gel coat scratches on the starboard sponson. Luckily it was a tire that we brushed up against.

In Orange Beach I was coming in to put the boat on the trailer at a busy launch. Lots of boat traffic, onshore brisk wind and an outgoing tide. Starboard engine died at a crucial time, it is hard to maneuver a cat in those conditions with asymmetric power.

Evinrude had been working with me for over a year trying to figure out the problem. They had both engine computers sent back to the factory to reload the software. Most recently they sent their regional mechanical wizard to my shop to check everything. We changed props, reed valves, fuel injectors and spark plugs. My plan was to do a safety check before heading offshore the next morning.

After launching the boat I spent ten minutes in the marina doing everything I could to get the motors to kill, repeatedly operating in the range where there were problems in the past. Couldn't get them to kill. Went out to run the boat at speed to test the new props. I really think is was the props all along. I was running Merc props that were probably 40% heavier than the comparable Evinrude props.

It was a little foggy as I left the marina so I reached down to flip on the radar. When I turned into Tiger Pass it was not foggy at all. I idled thru a no wake zone and and powered up to check engine performance with the new props. We went about 1/2 of a mile and made the turn back to the marina. The waterway is approx 150 yds wide at that point. There was a fairly new concrete dock that sticks out into the waterway approx 30 yds, cutting the actual width of the waterway to 120 yds. It has a light that blinks on and off every two seconds. Neither I or my two friends ever saw the light. I was concentrating on RPM, fuel economy and speed. we were not at full speed just our average cruise speed. Concentrating on performance,. I stopped my scan of other instruments and outside of the wind shield!

After we hit the dock one of my friends was uninjured. The other passenger is one of my best friends from high school, we are both 62, ended up sitting in the front of the boat, eyes open but not conscious. He had been sitting next to me and was thrown forward. He hit the side of his head on the upright of the t-top. He had a broken orbit on his left eye, separated ribs at the sternum and a fractured femur on his left leg. Luckily he did not need surgery, a stitch or a cast, just a plastic and velcro splint on his left leg. He had retired last year and his wife retired in June so she was home to help him convalesce. He didn't have to miss work.

I had a broken lower jaw, bleeding in my abdomen which required immediate surgery, a broken left arm, a puncture wound several inches deep in my left hip (we still can't figure out what did that), a two inch cut on my head and 3 inch cuts to the bone on both shins. It is ironic that after practicing dentistry for 36 years and having had only four filling in my life I had 3 teeth knocked out on impact, and will have to have 5 more teeth extracted on Thursday due to the amount of bone destroyed on impact. I spent five days in ICU at University Hospital in New Orleans. Can't say enough about the great care I received there.

All that being said we were very lucky no one died. The boat got us back to the dock. All four bilge pumps kicked on immediately. The marine surveyor who checked the boat afterwards was amazed at how well the boat handled the impact.

I have struggled with everything I could have done different. It was a preventable accident. I am an experienced boater. Complacency and familiarity played a part I'm sure. Every year in the US about 33,000 people die in car accidents. Nobody sets out when they leave their house be in an accident. I have owned boats for 35 years, and ran my Dad's 18' tri hull for about 10 years before buying my own boat. I've taken the boat squadron boater safety course, I have never had an accident in a boat before. I carry a plethora (big word) of safety equipment and backup safety equipment. Five or six of my patients have relayed accounts of friends or loved ones dying in boating accidents, My boating friends and patients have told me numerous accounts of "There but for the grace of God go I" stories. Almost hit something, near miss of hitting something.

A friend of ours asked my wife if I was giving up fishing. My wife's response "Are you kidding!! He is planning his next boat!" And it will be another Calcutta 263. Steve and his crew build a great boat. It like all boats is a compromise but for my needs it is perfect.

My only suggestions to other posters, just like the media, don't make judgements until you know the facts. Just because it is a fine assed fancy boat doesn't mean that I haven't paid my dues or I have "boater privilege".

Thanks for reading. I have tons of pictures post op. Let me know what you'd like to see. I took a really bloody selfie while still on the boat. My friends asked why on earth would you do that? It was a self assessment. I knew I had a broken mandible and teeth all over the place. I needed to see how bad it was professionally speaking. LOL I went back to work in 2 1/2 weeks. My wife fussed about me taking the splint off of my left arm but I couldn't get gloves on over the splint. I compromised and wore the splint at night.

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Sounds like it worked out the best it could have in that situation. Glad everyone made it home.

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Good luck on your recovery (and your buddies as well).
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Originally Posted by LSU2thDr View Post
Well actually there was a crew boat near us so I didn't have the LED light bar on. I didn't want to ruin his night vision. GPS and radar were both on and operating properly. I hadn't been drinking, I had just finished work and driven to Venice. I'm a dentist and I think my patients wouldn't appreciate me working while impaired. I only use the light bar when approaching an unlit rig offshore or a private dock I use in Destin that is unlit. Stereo is really awesome however it was not on. And yes it has a badass subwoofer.

I had been having issues with the engines stalling when changing from forward to reverse or vice versa at idle speeds. Sometimes port. sometimes starboard. Very erratic and unpredictable. Last year approaching a rig offshore to tie up, both engines killed and we drifted into the rig and sustained gel coat scratches on the starboard sponson. Luckily it was a tire that we brushed up against.

In Orange Beach I was coming in to put the boat on the trailer at a busy launch. Lots of boat traffic, onshore brisk wind and an outgoing tide. Starboard engine died at a crucial time, it is hard to maneuver a cat in those conditions with asymmetric power.

Evinrude had been working with me for over a year trying to figure out the problem. They had both engine computers sent back to the factory to reload the software. Most recently they sent their regional mechanical wizard to my shop to check everything. We changed props, reed valves, fuel injectors and spark plugs. My plan was to do a safety check before heading offshore the next morning.

After launching the boat I spent ten minutes in the marina doing everything I could to get the motors to kill, repeatedly operating in the range where there were problems in the past. Couldn't get them to kill. Went out to run the boat at speed to test the new props. I really think is was the props all along. I was running Merc props that were probably 40% heavier than the comparable Evinrude props.

It was a little foggy as I left the marina so I reached down to flip on the radar. When I turned into Tiger Pass it was not foggy at all. I idled thru a no wake zone and and powered up to check engine performance with the new props. We went about 1/2 of a mile and made the turn back to the marina. The waterway is approx 150 yds wide at that point. There was a fairly new concrete dock that sticks out into the waterway approx 30 yds, cutting the actual width of the waterway to 120 yds. It has a light that blinks on and off every two seconds. Neither I or my two friends ever saw the light. I was concentrating on RPM, fuel economy and speed. we were not at full speed just our average cruise speed. Concentrating on performance,. I stopped my scan of other instruments and outside of the wind shield!

After we hit the dock one of my friends was uninjured. The other passenger is one of my best friends from high school, we are both 62, ended up sitting in the front of the boat, eyes open but not conscious. He had been sitting next to me and was thrown forward. He hit the side of his head on the upright of the t-top. He had a broken orbit on his left eye, separated ribs at the sternum and a fractured femur on his left leg. Luckily he did not need surgery, a stitch or a cast, just a plastic and velcro splint on his left leg. He had retired last year and his wife retired in June so she was home to help him convalesce. He didn't have to miss work.

I had a broken lower jaw, bleeding in my abdomen which required immediate surgery, a broken left arm, a puncture wound several inches deep in my left hip (we still can't figure out what did that), a two inch cut on my head and 3 inch cuts to the bone on both shins. It is ironic that after practicing dentistry for 36 years and having had only four filling in my life I had 3 teeth knocked out on impact, and will have to have 5 more teeth extracted on Thursday due to the amount of bone destroyed on impact. I spent five days in ICU at University Hospital in New Orleans. Can't say enough about the great care I received there.

All that being said we were very lucky no one died. The boat got us back to the dock. All four bilge pumps kicked on immediately. The marine surveyor who checked the boat afterwards was amazed at how well the boat handled the impact.

I have struggled with everything I could have done different. It was a preventable accident. I am an experienced boater. Complacency and familiarity played a part I'm sure. Every year in the US about 33,000 people die in car accidents. Nobody sets out when they leave their house be in an accident. I have owned boats for 35 years, and ran my Dad's 18' tri hull for about 10 years before buying my own boat. I've taken the boat squadron boater safety course, I have never had an accident in a boat before. I carry a plethora (big word) of safety equipment and backup safety equipment. Five or six of my patients have relayed accounts of friends or loved ones dying in boating accidents, My boating friends and patients have told me numerous accounts of "There but for the grace of God go I" stories. Almost hit something, near miss of hitting something.

A friend of ours asked my wife if I was giving up fishing. My wife's response "Are you kidding!! He is planning his next boat!" And it will be another Calcutta 263. Steve and his crew build a great boat. It like all boats is a compromise but for my needs it is perfect.

My only suggestions to other posters, just like the media, don't make judgements until you know the facts. Just because it is a fine assed fancy boat doesn't mean that I haven't paid my dues or I have "boater privilege".

Thanks for reading. I have tons of pictures post op. Let me know what you'd like to see. I took a really bloody selfie while still on the boat. My friends asked why on earth would you do that? It was a self assessment. I knew I had a broken mandible and teeth all over the place. I needed to see how bad it was professionally speaking. LOL I went back to work in 2 1/2 weeks. My wife fussed about me taking the splint off of my left arm but I couldn't get gloves on over the splint. I compromised and wore the splint at night.

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glade You all are ok. Things happen so fast at night , I try my best to allways be alert but sometime other things will get your attention and take your eyes off for a seconds.Wishing you all s speedy recovery so that You can get back on the water. I also have an offshore center console and love offshore fishing.Ranger250
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Well actually there was a crew boat near us so I didn't have the LED light bar on. I didn't want to ruin his night vision. GPS and radar were both on and operating properly. I hadn't been drinking, I had just finished work and driven to Venice. I'm a dentist and I think my patients wouldn't appreciate me working while impaired. I only use the light bar when approaching an unlit rig offshore or a private dock I use in Destin that is unlit. Stereo is really awesome however it was not on. And yes it has a badass subwoofer.

I had been having issues with the engines stalling when changing from forward to reverse or vice versa at idle speeds. Sometimes port. sometimes starboard. Very erratic and unpredictable. Last year approaching a rig offshore to tie up, both engines killed and we drifted into the rig and sustained gel coat scratches on the starboard sponson. Luckily it was a tire that we brushed up against.

In Orange Beach I was coming in to put the boat on the trailer at a busy launch. Lots of boat traffic, onshore brisk wind and an outgoing tide. Starboard engine died at a crucial time, it is hard to maneuver a cat in those conditions with asymmetric power.

Evinrude had been working with me for over a year trying to figure out the problem. They had both engine computers sent back to the factory to reload the software. Most recently they sent their regional mechanical wizard to my shop to check everything. We changed props, reed valves, fuel injectors and spark plugs. My plan was to do a safety check before heading offshore the next morning.

After launching the boat I spent ten minutes in the marina doing everything I could to get the motors to kill, repeatedly operating in the range where there were problems in the past. Couldn't get them to kill. Went out to run the boat at speed to test the new props. I really think is was the props all along. I was running Merc props that were probably 40% heavier than the comparable Evinrude props.

It was a little foggy as I left the marina so I reached down to flip on the radar. When I turned into Tiger Pass it was not foggy at all. I idled thru a no wake zone and and powered up to check engine performance with the new props. We went about 1/2 of a mile and made the turn back to the marina. The waterway is approx 150 yds wide at that point. There was a fairly new concrete dock that sticks out into the waterway approx 30 yds, cutting the actual width of the waterway to 120 yds. It has a light that blinks on and off every two seconds. Neither I or my two friends ever saw the light. I was concentrating on RPM, fuel economy and speed. we were not at full speed just our average cruise speed. Concentrating on performance,. I stopped my scan of other instruments and outside of the wind shield!

After we hit the dock one of my friends was uninjured. The other passenger is one of my best friends from high school, we are both 62, ended up sitting in the front of the boat, eyes open but not conscious. He had been sitting next to me and was thrown forward. He hit the side of his head on the upright of the t-top. He had a broken orbit on his left eye, separated ribs at the sternum and a fractured femur on his left leg. Luckily he did not need surgery, a stitch or a cast, just a plastic and velcro splint on his left leg. He had retired last year and his wife retired in June so she was home to help him convalesce. He didn't have to miss work.

I had a broken lower jaw, bleeding in my abdomen which required immediate surgery, a broken left arm, a puncture wound several inches deep in my left hip (we still can't figure out what did that), a two inch cut on my head and 3 inch cuts to the bone on both shins. It is ironic that after practicing dentistry for 36 years and having had only four filling in my life I had 3 teeth knocked out on impact, and will have to have 5 more teeth extracted on Thursday due to the amount of bone destroyed on impact. I spent five days in ICU at University Hospital in New Orleans. Can't say enough about the great care I received there.

All that being said we were very lucky no one died. The boat got us back to the dock. All four bilge pumps kicked on immediately. The marine surveyor who checked the boat afterwards was amazed at how well the boat handled the impact.

I have struggled with everything I could have done different. It was a preventable accident. I am an experienced boater. Complacency and familiarity played a part I'm sure. Every year in the US about 33,000 people die in car accidents. Nobody sets out when they leave their house be in an accident. I have owned boats for 35 years, and ran my Dad's 18' tri hull for about 10 years before buying my own boat. I've taken the boat squadron boater safety course, I have never had an accident in a boat before. I carry a plethora (big word) of safety equipment and backup safety equipment. Five or six of my patients have relayed accounts of friends or loved ones dying in boating accidents, My boating friends and patients have told me numerous accounts of "There but for the grace of God go I" stories. Almost hit something, near miss of hitting something.

A friend of ours asked my wife if I was giving up fishing. My wife's response "Are you kidding!! He is planning his next boat!" And it will be another Calcutta 263. Steve and his crew build a great boat. It like all boats is a compromise but for my needs it is perfect.

My only suggestions to other posters, just like the media, don't make judgements until you know the facts. Just because it is a fine assed fancy boat doesn't mean that I haven't paid my dues or I have "boater privilege".

Thanks for reading. I have tons of pictures post op. Let me know what you'd like to see. I took a really bloody selfie while still on the boat. My friends asked why on earth would you do that? It was a self assessment. I knew I had a broken mandible and teeth all over the place. I needed to see how bad it was professionally speaking. LOL I went back to work in 2 1/2 weeks. My wife fussed about me taking the splint off of my left arm but I couldn't get gloves on over the splint. I compromised and wore the splint at night.

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Thank you so very much for posting the details of your accident. It's rare that we get enough information from accidents like this to draw any safety lessons from them. I'd like to ask a few more questions if I may. What scale was your radar on? Did you have your GPS/chartplotter on, and if so do you remember what scale you had it on? Was the concrete dock in your map on your chart plotter, or had you programmed it in?
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LSU- thanks for the honesty. I don't know how many times I have become "situationally unaware" while navigating a boat but I know it happens.
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Real glad everyone survived. Your friend was lucky to have ended up in the boat. That could have gone badly if he'd been thrown a little further. Your story is exactly why they are called accidents! Nobody does something like this on purpose.

Thanks for coming on and sharing your tale. I think it will provide some of us with a sobering lesson on how quickly things can turn to crap, no matter how well we prepare or how experienced we are. This kind of lapse in concentration/awareness can happen to anybody. Thanks again!
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Thank you for a detailed account of the events. Bad things happen to good people all the time.

I'd be interested to see any and all pics that you can post, especially the injuries. I teach a diving/boating first aid course to ~75 professional divers each year and it's always important to discuss real life events and emergency response.
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