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Pathfinder 2200V Hull Issues

Old 11-23-2018, 10:59 AM
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I bought a used 2004 Pathfinder 2200V a while back to restore, after careful inspection we found a batched patch on the starboard side of the hull bottom, and some gelcoat cracks and spidering on the port side. I took the hull to Sean at Coastal Restorations at Calusa Marine in Goodland, FL and he ground down the patch and gelcoat cracks to see what is going on. Below you can see the results. The starboard patch was covering a crack all the way through the fiberglass hull, and the port gelcoat crack has some fracturing of the fiberglass hull, but not all the way through as on the starboard side. Also on the starboard side is a picture of more gelcoat cracking on the upper chime.
All this will have to be completely ground down and fiberglassed and finished off following all the cracks on both sides and across the bottom side to side..

Have others experienced similar hull failures on their Pathfinder hulls? Not a great advertisement for sure on this hull design. There have been no obvious impacts to this hull to cause all this hull failure.

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Old 11-23-2018, 12:31 PM
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Being that you are not the original owner and the boat is a 2004, it definitely raises the issue as to how the boat was used and what it could have been put through.
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Old 11-23-2018, 02:42 PM
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Being that you are not the original owner and the boat is a 2004, it definitely raises the issue as to how the boat was used and what it could have been put through.
Yes I agree, but many hulls go through tough use but do not see this kind of failure. These are not inexpensive boats, and seem to keep good value over the years. The blown Honda 130 that was on the hull when I bought it did not have over 1200 hours.

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Old 11-23-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jfwireless View Post
Yes I agree, but many hulls go through tough use but do not see this kind of failure. These are not inexpensive boats, and seem to keep good value over the years. The blown Honda 130 that was on the hull when I bought it did not have over 1200 hours.

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1200 hours on a bay boat is not easy use depending on where it was run. I didnít even know Pathfinders ever came with Hondaís as original engines. They are tough hulls. My guess is there is a story about that hull.
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1200 hours on a bay boat is not easy use depending on where it was run. I didnít even know Pathfinders ever came with Hondaís as original engines. They are tough hulls. My guess is there is a story about that hull.
Yes the original owner bought the hull new and had the Honda 130 put on himself. Not really an optimal engine for the 2200V, but he was a Honda guy.

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No kidding. He must have really loved Honda’s because with a 130 that boat would be a slug. Even a 150 is marginal and those 130s were heavy also. What Suzuki did you go with?

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No kidding. He must have really loved Hondaís because with a 130 that boat would be a slug. Even a 150 is marginal and those 130s were heavy also. What Suzuli did you go with?
I put a DF200 on the 2200, that should be the ticket for that hull. Its a fly by wire as well.
That T-Top came off a Pursuit 25 foot, I had that frame welded up to fit the T-Top and hull.

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Ask the original owner why the hull was repaired and what caused the damage. If itís delaminating of the stringers that caused the cracks, then the cap (liner) would need to come off in order to repair. Some
people are excessive on banging waves. They donít understand hulls do suffer.

I put out lots of hours on boats and in a chop, but I ease off the throttle.
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This is a timely thread for me. I've got an 00 kenner basic boat that has been extremely good to me but I'm salivating about all the creature comfort features I'm seeing in these 02-08 Pathfinders. Mostly storage. I did notice that they are much heavier than similar brands. Any ideas on why?
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More resin better built
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Originally Posted by Cobia206 View Post
More resin better built
what a shame, just a simple factory quality problem. I always thought pathfinder was up there with Majek etc.
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Originally Posted by v186 View Post
what a shame, just a simple factory quality problem. I always thought pathfinder was up there with Majek etc.
What?
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Originally Posted by v186 View Post
This is a timely thread for me. I've got an 00 kenner basic boat that has been extremely good to me but I'm salivating about all the creature comfort features I'm seeing in these 02-08 Pathfinders. Mostly storage. I did notice that they are much heavier than similar brands. Any ideas on why?
Around 2007 Pathfinder did a hull redesign with recessed trim tabs and a 25 inch transom to handle heavier 4 strokes. If looking try and find one of the newer design hulls.

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Looks to me like lots of heavy pounding from running hard in waves. Bet you will not have anyone write on this forum that same has occurred to their boat.
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Originally Posted by jfwireless View Post
Around 2007 Pathfinder did a hull redesign with recessed trim tabs and a 25 inch transom to handle heavier 4 strokes. If looking try and find one of the newer design hulls.

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The new design initially was called XL and can handle up to 250hp
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How much did the repair cost?
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post


What?
My stupid. When you posted that I was thinking you were commenting that lack of resin caused that lamination break hence the comment about quality. Fortunately, that Pathfinder I was considering sold. Whew! Back to good old faithful.
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How much did the repair cost?
The repair is not completed yet, but estimate is 3000-3500.

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Originally Posted by Cobia206 View Post
Looks to me like lots of heavy pounding from running hard in waves. Bet you will not have anyone write on this forum that same has occurred to their boat.
Actually Sean the guy restoring the vessel has seen a few 2200's himself with the same issue. Seems like a fairly common issue. Sean showed me pictures of the last pathfinder 2200 he repaired, the entire chime came apart front to back, once the water got in hydraulics took over and destroyed the hull. Sean found one of the front stingers was never installed in that pathfinder. Sean also does detailing work and had warned the owner to get this 2200 repaired as it had cracks initially like mine, but he just did not take the advice.

Sean has seen several pathfinders with similar issue, so wondering how man on this forum have had similar issues, and to advise all pathfinder owners to take a good look under the hull, if you see some gelcoat cracking, have somebody take a look to be safe.



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