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Old 11-08-2018, 09:42 AM
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Question Regal vs. Malibu vs. Mastercraft for wakeboard/surf

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to buy a boat to go wakeboarding / wakesurfing. This is for our family (3 teenagers and 2 parents, all into both sports, not competitive).

Given the harbor configuration, I can only consider a boat that is 2.5m (8' 2") or narrower.

Given the local dealer situation and personal taste, I am looking at Malibu 21MLX, Mastercraft NXT22 or XT21 and Regal 21RX Surf.

I've spent ages searching the Internet and can't find any comparative views on the Regal vs. Malibu/Mastercraft. Does anyone have experience with both?

Thanks in advance!

Eric
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regal is out. both are good. depends how wild you want it to look. Malibu tends to be a little more subdued and classy IMO. we had a 23 Sunsetter LSV (ski hull with wakeboard wedge and ballast)
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Regal is not a watersports boat. Out of the two, I prefer the fit/finish of Malibu over Mastercraft, but both are great boats.

Main thing, understand how big of a wake, and how destructive it can be, and choose your boarding spots accordingly. In other words, no matter how compelling the water may be, wakeboarding/surfing near someone's dock is never appropriate. Go to secluded areas for this. Also if slalom skiers are in an area, wait for them to finish their pass before you start a tow. Wake sports can be great fun, but entirely too many participants only look the smoothness of the water where they want to ride, and not the appropriateness of the location/surroundings.
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I use to own a Tige 22', much more similar to the Malibu or Mastercraft. From a strictly wakeboarding / wakesurfing perspective, the Regal isn't even within the same class as either the Malibu or Mastercraft. The Malibu or Mastercraft will throw a nicer, sharper, clean wake (ie controlling white wash on the wake) and a larger surf wave when surfing then Regal. The Malibu/Mastercraft will have precision like handling compared to the Regal.

Now there are limitations, the Malibu/Mastercraft is going to be a straight shaft inboard with skegs which means you need to steer clear of shallow water. Bending the prop is expensive and a hassle, if you bend the shaft then it's a nightmare. Usually, depending on all the features that come with the boat, the Malibu or Mastercraft will be more expensive than the Regal. The only thing I didn't like about the Malibu specifically, was that on sharp turns with the ballasts fully loaded, the nose was much easier to dunk under water than on the Tige (which is why I went with Tige). Overall, I prefer the Mastercraft to Malibu because of their designs but both boats are a step above Regal from a wakeboarding / wakesurfing perspective.
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The Regal is a decent little surf boat, it rides a little bow high when surfing but it rides way better than the Malibu or MC. My $.02 is go drive and surf all three and then make the call. Just as important as the boat would be the servicing dealer so make sure you like them too!
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Bryant boats make a great surf as well
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Volvo Forward Drive. What could possibly go wrong.

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Volvo Forward Drive. What could possibly go wrong.


yep. Cruises well and has a great ride. Different I agree but results have been positive. I do not sell them but would consider them if I was looking for a wake boat. Great parent company
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Regal is not a real ski boat, neither is Braynt. You are not going to get a decent wake with anything that has an outdrive. I have surfed the NX22, nice boat. The NX22 is their budget boat, pretty comparable to the Malibu. I would ride both see which you like better. Or kick it up a notch and look at Nautique, or the upper end Mastercrafts. They make some of these CC's look cheap!
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Originally Posted by cbaync View Post
yep. Cruises well and has a great ride. Different I agree but results have been positive. I do not sell them but would consider them if I was looking for a wake boat. Great parent company
Right up until you hit something and it rips off the whole thing. May be great for open water boats, but not a boat that is going to spend it's entire life on the lake. Think about hitting a barely submerged log. Rather than kicking up the drive, it is going to snag.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Right up until you hit something and it rips off the whole thing. May be great for open water boats, but not a boat that is going to spend it's entire life on the lake. Think about hitting a barely submerged log. Rather than kicking up the drive, it is going to snag.
we just agree to disagree. Surfs well. And let's face it, logs suck and I have repaired enough of I/Os that hit logs to know. Pure ski I would go mastercraft.

the OP seems to want to surf and wakeboard. not ski. Based on title.
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Originally Posted by cbaync View Post
yep. Cruises well and has a great ride. Different I agree but results have been positive. I do not sell them but would consider them if I was looking for a wake boat. Great parent company

What on earth IS that thing? let me try and understand. Its a I/O optimized to run in "reverse"?

Talk about a solution in search of a problem...
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check out the website. the tagline for the product is "A New Direction of Fun" HAHAHA
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Cross regal off the list if your are looking for a serious wake performer. Can't go wrong with either mastercraft or Malibu they are top of the line. I run a nautique g21 and love it.
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I'm partial to Malibu but there's lots of happy Mastercraft owners too. I don't buy the nonsense about the direct drive being 'fragile". We beat the crap out of our Response for years. I hooked the wedge on a submerged stump, stopped the boat dead in the water and bent the wedge so sharply that the boat wouldn't go on plane but didn't do any other damage to the boat. Another time we were coming home from fireworks in the middle of the night and hit a log. We sheared one tracking fin clean off, bent the next one so it looked like a drunken whale and made the boat track for shit. We drove the boat to the launch, loaded it, unscrewed the remaining fins and the broken base, screwed on three new fins and went back on the lake. Those big direct drive boats are really expensive but they're built like tanks. I have on the other hand repaired a couple of outdrives and numerous outdrive props. If you're serious about watersports and can afford the real thing you will never regret the Malibu or Mastercraft.
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1. None of the I/O boats are true wakeboard.surf boats. They are all masquerading as wakeboard boats because that's where the money is. Just like Yamaha making a jet drive wake boat... it's a farce.

2. I'd consider Malibu, Mastercraft, or Natique Supra for any your needs, and I've owned ALL OF THEM. I'm partial to Malibu, but buy what you can get serviced easily. Unless you're running tournaments with it, they are all so damn similar it's crazy.
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Many thanks to all of you who have already responded.

Regarding Regal, their recent "surf" editions seem to be getting good reviews. So I'm wondering if those of you saying Regal isn't up-to-scratch for watersports actually have had a chance to compare their recent wave vs. traditional brands or just making assumptions based on their history / reputation? I could also imagine that the reviews are positive because "for a Regal, it's a great wave", yet it doesn't compare with Malibu/Mastercraft/Nautique.

Regarding Volvo's forward drive, some of the benefits they're highlighting is ability to trim, and better maneuverability. The propeller is more exposed, but if you're going to hit something, I presume either way it's going to suck?

Regarding trying the various options to make up my mind, I would of course love to do this, but the season here is over, and if I want to have a boat for next season, I need to make a decision now. Also, we're not very good at these sports yet, so I'm not sure our judgement would be that sound. Hence preferring to ask the pros!

Thanks again,

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Originally Posted by tholome View Post
Many thanks to all of you who have already responded.

Regarding Regal, their recent "surf" editions seem to be getting good reviews. So I'm wondering if those of you saying Regal isn't up-to-scratch for watersports actually have had a chance to compare their recent wave vs. traditional brands or just making assumptions based on their history / reputation? I could also imagine that the reviews are positive because "for a Regal, it's a great wave", yet it doesn't compare with Malibu/Mastercraft/Nautique.
Who is doing the reviews? I wouldn't give any boat review sites any credibility when it comes to the watersports aspect of a tow boat. Even if it is a great boat, resale will suck compared to a real watersports boat, as that's what the market wants. Neighbor just sold a 2007 wake setter for over 40K. There is a reason they hold their value.
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Having owned a I/O and now two direct drive boats the difference is night and day. they are so much more maneuverable under power, no steering in reverse (the boat turns whichever way the prop is spinning). I would compare driving them similar to stepping from a Chevy Malibu to a Chevy Corvette in terms of how they drive.
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I really like Malibu. Owned 2 over the past 16 yrs. I like their styling. But what sets it apart for me is the wake is not finicky. Fill the tanks, lower wedge and go rip. You do not have to constantly move people around the boat to keep the wake perfect. Plus the wedge is a great tool to tweak the wake to everybody's licking

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