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Old 10-24-2018, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by noelm View Post

filling up a 100 gallon tank 10 times is OK then? funny thing, you can put 100 gallons in a 1000 gallon thank, or fill it when needed, but it's pretty hard to get 1000 gallons in a 100 gallon tank if you are planning a decent trip.
This. Buy fuel when it's the cheapest also.
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:07 AM
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The Albin and the Mainship both might work for me. Figured the single diesel would be more economical on an inboard. I live on the water so dockage is not that expensive, so long as I can get under the first bridge. Trailering reduces work on cleaning the hull, makes it quicker and less expensive to go further away. Thanks WPBTH, I will take it all with a grain of salt. I appreciate everyone's input.We have all traveled on different seas.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:59 AM
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My neighbor has a nice little Krogen Manatee he will sell.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:39 PM
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This thing is cool:

https://www.arrowcat.com/models/arrowcat-340/

I'm sure it doesn't meet $80K Criteria unless there are used ones out there, but the engines are less than $20k new.
I get the feeling its a new model not in production.

Just think its cool
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyTurn View Post
I appreciate your input. I am retired and like being on the water. Of course it is good to have the ability to outrun squalls. So I appreciate what you are saying about a small weather window. What is the boat you are currently using? Not interested in a home build. I'm retired and don't want that much work!
i think you were replying to my post. It’s a 25’ Downeast 25, plywood/epoxy/glass composite design by Bateau.com. It’s similar to a Parker but with bigger cabin, and lighter (over powered with single 140).

Heres another efficient, simple (relative term) long distance cruiser. Also too new a design for used prices, but affordable relative to alternatives at $139k starting. Couple or single handed could disappear on this for a long time.

Specifications - SeaPiper


I’d like to build something like this, but at 34’ or so. Wedge Point 27, Semi-displacement Trailerable Classic Cruising Launch ~ Small Boat Designs by Tad Roberts

Scout 30 would meet your requirements and budget; slow speed only though. There are usually one or two for sale.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Scout-30-3239624/

The SeaPiper and Scout are also transportable by trailer. Big bonus if you want to cruise different areas.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phillipj1 View Post
This thing is cool:

https://www.arrowcat.com/models/arrowcat-340/

I'm sure it doesn't meet $80K Criteria unless there are used ones out there, but the engines are less than $20k new.
I get the feeling its a new model not in production.

Just think its cool
I haven't tried it but I would have huge reservations about doing open ocean crossings withe a pair of small outboards on a large hull. The grip you get on the water with a small prop could be an issue in big seas. I know a guy who took the twin 200's off his 32ft power cat and put twin 60 bigfoots on it. Said he only trolled for game fish and wanted economy over speed. After one season the 60's were off. Said that it was bordering on uncontrollable in some big sea conditions.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aliboy View Post
I haven't tried it but I would have huge reservations about doing open ocean crossings withe a pair of small outboards on a large hull. The grip you get on the water with a small prop could be an issue in big seas. I know a guy who took the twin 200's off his 32ft power cat and put twin 60 bigfoots on it. Said he only trolled for game fish and wanted economy over speed. After one season the 60's were off. Said that it was bordering on uncontrollable in some big sea conditions.
Don't see why you could not do 115's on that boat. Wont gain much speed but you can run a much larger prop deeper. Should be a bit more controllable in the wind.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyTurn View Post
The Albin and the Mainship both might work for me. Figured the single diesel would be more economical on an inboard. I live on the water so dockage is not that expensive, so long as I can get under the first bridge. Trailering reduces work on cleaning the hull, makes it quicker and less expensive to go further away. Thanks WPBTH, I will take it all with a grain of salt. I appreciate everyone's input.We have all traveled on different seas.
I have a Mainship 34..

It's not for everyone and if you're thinking about a trailer you can forget it.

Albin makes a good boat and you can spend 40k on either and get top notch.

If you're in any type of hurry you can forget a trawler.. I personally find it relaxing and once i'm on the boat "I'm there" and the destination is secondary.

Big difference in size between the albin 28 and the mainship 34

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Old 10-25-2018, 03:25 PM
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A friend just picked up a Ranger Tug R-25. Really neat little cruiser...
https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2...dard%20listing
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:43 AM
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We have ventured extensively with our 25’ Tolman Jumbo, spending over 100 nights on it since launching. With a 135 HO E-TEC, ~3.5 MPG at 25+ MPH. A 73 gallon fuel tank provides 200+ mile range. Built in 25 gallon fresh water tank gets used a lot when in salt water.

Easy to tow, right at 5,000 lbs including the trailer when set up for voyaging.

No AC, proper cuddy ventilation and a small fan ensure cool sleeping.

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Old 10-29-2018, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pfithian View Post
We have ventured extensively with our 25’ Tolman Jumbo, spending over 100 nights on it since launching.
Did you recently cruise through Jupiter? Friend mentioned he saw a Tolman; not many around here. My rig is similar, though I found a completed project before I was able to start a build:





I find that without AC it is still comfortable to sleep on the boat ~9 months of the year in South Florida. On the water, it only takes a few knots breeze to keep the cabin cool. The afternoons in the sun are hot, but the cabin and an aft canopy provide a lot of shade. It is a big step up in weight & complexity to have an AC and provide power to it. End of June in the Bahamas we spent a few days on the boat, and last September in the Treasure Coast. I've done the end of July and it is warm, particularly if low wind.
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Old 11-05-2018, 07:26 AM
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Taking note of the sites you mention. I will be checking them out. Thanks.

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Old 11-05-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Gent View Post
Did you recently cruise through Jupiter? Friend mentioned he saw a Tolman; not many around here. My rig is similar, though I found a completed project before I was able to start a build:





I find that without AC it is still comfortable to sleep on the boat ~9 months of the year in South Florida. On the water, it only takes a few knots breeze to keep the cabin cool. The afternoons in the sun are hot, but the cabin and an aft canopy provide a lot of shade. It is a big step up in weight & complexity to have an AC and provide power to it. End of June in the Bahamas we spent a few days on the boat, and last September in the Treasure Coast. I've done the end of July and it is warm, particularly if low wind.
What boat is that?
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Old 11-05-2018, 07:47 AM
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Another vote for Albin 28. We fish ours, lived on it for 6 weeks last winter in the keys, and will be towing it south from Maine again in two weeks. I really don't think you can get more cabin in a seaworthy fishing oriented trailerable boat. We get over 2nmpg at 18knots, way higher at hull speed. She holds 132 gallons of fuel (flush deck). She has the range to be anywhere you'd want to be in a boat this size.



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Old 11-05-2018, 08:07 AM
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Nice boat! I would have freaked towing that in the snow!
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:14 AM
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Nice boat! I would have freaked towing that in the snow!
Practice makes perfect. It was definitely sketchy but after a couple minor slides I got the braking distances down. Snow and ice didn't clear up until Virginia. Still had snow on the swim platform in Georgia! Here is a shot pulled over in PA.

I don't know if there is a better towable boat based on the OP's wants. If fishing isn't a factor those ranger tugs look sweet, we poked around a couple at a boat show last winter. May be a budget buster though given how new they are.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:28 AM
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If fishing isn't a priority then something like this may fit the bill:

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...dard%20listing

or if you can give up trailering...

https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/2...720397423.html

I have no affiliation with either boat or owner they just caught my eye.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:57 AM
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For a trailerable (8.5' beam) cruiser with separate head, queen berth, and twin OB in your price range, you may want to consider a 25 C-Dory.
There's one available near Florida with a roof A/C already installed.
The wife and I finally decided on the catamaran version of that boat for our future cruising plans.

https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2...-25-103388510/
I also have no association with the owner or any idea about condition other than what I saw online.

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Old 11-05-2018, 10:19 AM
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How do you like that loadmaster trailer for your Albin? I got a quote for one from them but it seemed pretty high for a steel trailer. I have been looking for a used but going to be hard to find one that will work or to buy a used one and modify it I may be in it higher than a new one.
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How do you like that loadmaster trailer for your Albin? I got a quote for one from them but it seemed pretty high for a steel trailer. I have been looking for a used but going to be hard to find one that will work or to buy a used one and modify it I may be in it higher than a new one.
I have been very impressed with the work they did on the trailer. It had balanced tongue weight and fit the boat right from the factory. Only 1 bunk needed tweaking to clear a transducer. Feel free to shoot me a PM with any specific questions so we don't hijack this thread. I also have a thread about the trailer on the albin owners forum.
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