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Old 10-25-2018, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ken2 View Post
Start a thread about buying a "cruiser" boat and converting it to outboard and you'll probably get a bigger response then the pontoon on the ocean question.
well, I got enough of a response to rethink that idea.................so ONCE I get the cruiser boat, I will start a new thread.

At the moment I have the option of 3:
1 - 2005 has a small crack in hull that flooded the bilge and is priced cheap so best for Outboard conversion, comes with trailer and 4hrs away. It is also 9yrs newer than the other two.

2 - 1998 that runs, a few cosmetic issues and generator is out but has 1,400 hrs on Volvos and NO TRAILER, also 12hrs away.

3 - 1998, 200'ish hours on rebuilt engines, NO TRAILER, 12hrs away and costs $10,000 MORE than the other two.

If i get the two older ones I have to spend an additional $3,000 just for a trailer..........they both run but I really wanted to get twin outboards swapped in.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainbadfinger View Post
The title of the thread is Pontoon in the OCEAN!!!
The Gulf is not the Ocean!!
​​​​​​Bring your pontoon offshore in the N.E and it won't
last 2 days
BTW ,5 Miles is NOT offshore
How far do I have to go through the pass to be "offshore?"
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gemini_nkr View Post
well, I got enough of a response to rethink that idea.................so ONCE I get the cruiser boat, I will start a new thread.

At the moment I have the option of 3:
1 - 2005 has a small crack in hull that flooded the bilge and is priced cheap so best for Outboard conversion, comes with trailer and 4hrs away. It is also 9yrs newer than the other two.

2 - 1998 that runs, a few cosmetic issues and generator is out but has 1,400 hrs on Volvos and NO TRAILER, also 12hrs away.

3 - 1998, 200'ish hours on rebuilt engines, NO TRAILER, 12hrs away and costs $10,000 MORE than the other two.

If i get the two older ones I have to spend an additional $3,000 just for a trailer..........they both run but I really wanted to get twin outboards swapped in.
Why are you doing this? You've already said you don't know much about boats, but you plan to buy an old cruiser and apply all of your nautical engineering skills to reconfigure it for outboards? Doesn't make much sense to me...
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Dan View Post
Why are you doing this? You've already said you don't know much about boats, but you plan to buy an old cruiser and apply all of your nautical engineering skills to reconfigure it for outboards? Doesn't make much sense to me...
You couldn't tell he's been playing around with this?
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
You couldn't tell he's been playing around with this?
I haven't read the entire thread, I just picked up on the pontoon questions then suddenly he's rebuilding a cruiser...
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:31 AM
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I'm pretty sure its ocean off of Islamorada...Pontoons work very well there when not too windy and the passes are not as dangerous as many of them on the east coast are. I see a fair amount of them going through the passes to fish. Would I take mine 20 or more miles off shore, hell no, and I don't think anyone is advocating that. 5 miles is a different story, I can see land and get back in quickly if needed from 5 miles.

To claim they don't belong in the ocean at all is complete ignorance. To say they don't belong way off shore is good advise. To say they are not designed for offshore use is correct, but to say they will fall apart in rough water is again, ignorance. Todays pontoons, the good ones, can take some pretty rough/choppy water very well, but they do not belong in big ocean waves period.

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Old 10-26-2018, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gemini_nkr View Post
well, I got enough of a response to rethink that idea.................so ONCE I get the cruiser boat, I will start a new thread.

At the moment I have the option of 3:
1 - 2005 has a small crack in hull that flooded the bilge and is priced cheap so best for Outboard conversion, comes with trailer and 4hrs away. It is also 9yrs newer than the other two.

2 - 1998 that runs, a few cosmetic issues and generator is out but has 1,400 hrs on Volvos and NO TRAILER, also 12hrs away.

3 - 1998, 200'ish hours on rebuilt engines, NO TRAILER, 12hrs away and costs $10,000 MORE than the other two.

If i get the two older ones I have to spend an additional $3,000 just for a trailer..........they both run but I really wanted to get twin outboards swapped in.
I was saying that because pretty much everyone is going to tell you converting an old cruiser to outboard is a worse idea then taking a pontoon boat offshore.
Want to go out launching a pontoon off a 4 ft swell in a blaze of glory.
Or penny-less in the the shop covered in fiberglass and mumbling something about a rotten transom before having an aneurysm.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Dan View Post
Why are you doing this? You've already said you don't know much about boats, but you plan to buy an old cruiser and apply all of your nautical engineering skills to reconfigure it for outboards? Doesn't make much sense to me...
Any boat that I want comes with I/O, where I am going, we only have I/O Diesels, everything else is OB.............the advantages and safety of OB make them the better choice and lastly, the fact that I can get a clean Cruiser and live on it, if I can mount them like this boat and have them out of water rather than sitting in water 24/7, that's a plus............where I am going, some luxuries we and I have been accustomed to here are NOT available.

I wanted a 27ft loaded inside a container, can't get a mariner or shipper to remove it, most mariners don't even have forklifts.

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Old 10-26-2018, 10:08 AM
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I dont know, seems like there are a lot of options out there without having to custom build something. Where are you going?

Seems like something like this might suit the bill...
https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2...andard+listing
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
How far do I have to go through the pass to be "offshore?"
​Up here it's 50-60 miles
Down there you could at least go past where you can see land!
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Old 10-27-2018, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainbadfinger View Post
​Up here it's 50-60 miles
Down there you could at least go past where you can see land!
That would be 20 to 25 miles so I'm not going offshore after all. Whew.....at least I don't have to worry about taking a pontoon offshore anymore.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:46 PM
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Here's a video of a 27 Pontoon in the Gulf. Fast forward to 5:22 where they took one over the front.

These guys were overstating the wave heights in my opinion for dramatic effect. Looking at the video I did not see any waves over 4'. Then again I'm used to Lake Erie where 3-5' was a nice day.

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Originally Posted by crackerasscracker View Post
Other than that, I’d suggest you take them out in any conditions so long as your wife is hot and in a mood to teach you a lesson. Standing by on 68.
This is funny stuff. Love it.

We considered a Toon as a do-it-all boat for our family. For running the Indian River and other coastal areas I did believe it would work for us. Went to the dealer 3 Saturdays ago and spec'd a new 25 foot tri-toon with a 300 Yamy on a tandem trailer. It was pimped out with a fridge, wet bar and even a transom shower. Bottom line was $95K.

The next day we took our express cruiser out of the Canaveral inlet in 2-3 foot wind blown chop (no whitecaps) and watched a 22ish foot tritoon try to negotiate the head seas about 100 yards away. After about 1 minute of watching wifey said no friggin way on the pontoon purchase. She's pretty milfy so it's probably a good thing I listened.
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Old 10-30-2018, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Dan View Post
I dont know, seems like there are a lot of options out there without having to custom build something. Where are you going?

Seems like something like this might suit the bill...
https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2...andard+listing

That price doesn't, can't afford over 30K.............and I have mechanical skills so my biggest expense is parts.
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:45 PM
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Did I hear him say they are in 8-10' seas? Oh wait then they were in occasional 13 footers. I assume that was a joke or they are seriously delusional. I'm with Docked Wage and I realize waves are bigger in person than on video but I doubt I saw anything over 3'
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:13 PM
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Did I hear him say they are in 8-10' seas? Oh wait then they were in occasional 13 footers. I assume that was a joke or they are seriously delusional. I'm with Docked Wage and I realize waves are bigger in person than on video but I doubt I saw anything over 3'
i also wonder about them taking a wave as well.
Have a feeling some spray landed on the guy and he dropped his phone.

If those were 10-13 ft waves. How deep was that knee deep water they had in the Boat ?
I notice the little swing door on the bow remained shut.
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Idiots, talking about 8 to 10 and 15ft rogue waves.
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only a fool with a death wish takes a PONTOON boat into the ocean. You hit a wave and the engine will TORPEDO the bow RIGHT UNDER WATER AND KEEP DRIVING IT DEEPER AND DEEPER...A fool and his money are soon parted...Just go toss your money in the ocean...It's safer.
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only a fool with a death wish takes a PONTOON boat into the ocean. You hit a wave and the engine will TORPEDO the bow RIGHT UNDER WATER AND KEEP DRIVING IT DEEPER AND DEEPER...A fool and his money are soon parted...Just go toss your money in the ocean...It's safer.
If a wave isn't breaking anything can ride it.
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Docked Wage View Post
She's pretty milfy
A good trait in someone you're married to..
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