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Pontoon in the ocean: advise please, I apologise for 100 questions

Old 10-25-2018, 07:17 AM
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Pontoon boats have really gained in popularity of late. There's a reason for it. Despite that gain in popularity, they are rarely seen on the open ocean. There's a reason for that. Generally they are not designed for open ocean conditions and are poorly suited for open ocean conditions. Yes, I realize that a 5'4" boat crossed the Atlantic.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolakrab View Post
A pontoon is fine for salt water-as long as it's only used in bays or other sheltered waterways. Definitely not on the open seas.
And don't listen to those "just pick your day" comments...those folks have never been on the ocean when it's turned from a frog pond to a washing machine in the span of a couple of hours.
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Crackerasscracker gives good advise...you'd do well to heed it.
I've been doing it 18 years so have run into rough, surprise weather of course. I do keep an eagle eye on cloud formations, storms I see in the distance, NOAA, my weather channel while I'm offshore. If I see something coming that even looks a little bit iffy I head for shore. Some other boats out there don't have to cut and run so fast as I do and they can sit there and fish longer. I also don't stay out there and outrun spotty storms that we get here in Florida like some of the other boats do. I don't have that luxury. In other words, I try to stay away from storms and rough water at all times. I'm just saying in an emergency, my pontoon has done me well. My emergencies are not as bad as some others because I don't stay out there and chance anything.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Pontoon boats have really gained in popularity of late. There's a reason for it. Despite that gain in popularity, they are rarely seen on the open ocean. There's a reason for that. Generally they are not designed for open ocean conditions and are poorly suited for open ocean conditions. Yes, I realize that a 5'4" boat crossed the Atlantic.
Hell.....Look at the Kon Tiki
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:06 AM
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I don't like the arguments that have been made for or against it. The 'for' arguments make it sound like the pontoon is the ultimate boat for any and all conditions anywhere and everywhere and the 'against' make it seem that only an ocean liner is capable of breaching past the inlet into open waters. Instead, I think those who are experienced using both types in the bay and open oceam should guide the OP., i.e; it takes experience, certain conditions, this type of equipment, this type of boat setup, etc, etc in a certain locale. Yes, it is capable if you build up experience, have this many occupants who ride in the back while under way, yada, yada...

I've been out in SWF and the Gulf off of Texas. Both are completely different and you can't make generalizations about both. I've been out off of Padre Island when it was spooky glass smooth all the way up to shore and other times when we we've been caught off guard and had to ride the waves in through the inlet next to surfers on the other side of the jetty. Jersey and California are going to be completely different as well. Even with that, I'd have no business telling him whether or not it can or should be done since I've never experienced it personally nor in his area. and yes, sometimes, chit happens.

What I wouldn't want to see happen is anyone getting themselves in danger, hurt or killed because they were misled. At the same time, it's foolish to say something isn't possible especially if you're not experienced in it. This isn't just for the OP but anyone who might search this topic on the internet and easily come across either of these arguments. I don't want some yahoo reading into this thinking that he can take "X" boat out into the ocean at "Y" location at any time and be perfectly safe. You also don't want someone to miss out on what might be an awesome opportunity and experience however there has to be a responsibility of guidance taken into account.
When I first bought my pontoon up in the Florida Panhandle there was a family of several brothers, dad, grandpa, who sold Bennington pontoons. I specifically told them I wanted a boat I could go offshore fishing in. They suggested the Bennington and they all went offshore a lot in theirs 30 miles out. They said they did it all the time but picked their days. I called Bennington and asked them if their pontoons would break apart in rough water and they said absolutely not. They did say they didn't suggest taking a pontoon into the ocean. Of course whey would they suggest it and be held liable in some way. I don't go 30 miles out because I want to be able to run to shore really fast if the weather or Gulf gets nasty. 5 miles out is pretty safe for me with my experience but there are some new pontoon captains that may have a lot more trouble doing it until they learn. You have to surf with a pontoon, not cut through.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:21 AM
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Who makes the biggest pontoon?
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by icwingman View Post
my toon wont go as fast as your boat but it will take me longer to get in because we have to be safe. you say bullshit, i say theteeth in yourr mouth are clicking from all the banging your getting your ass hurts from sitting on that leaning post and your arms are tired from holding on. a boat is a boat and a cpt is a cpt and we do what we like. but dont say bullshit until you been on a 24 toon with a 200 on the back.and 30000 cheaper than yours with extreme comfort
I'm really not sure if this was directed at me but I think maybe it was.... Are you telling me you have a pontoon or tri-toon that is going to ride softer/ drier/ more comfortable than the Southport I own in the ocean? Are you also telling us that a "boat is a boat" and a "captain is a captain?" If no then please excuse my post, if yes then you obviously don't know what you're talking about. I don't even think the other tooners on here would buy into this.
There is no way in hell that any toon will remotely ride like a quality offshore boat in a semi rough to rough ocean. Sorry, never ever ever going to happen.
You're toon will not be as fast, soft, comfortable, dry or safe as a quality offshore rig in any situation except maybe anchored up at the sandbar or cruising a very calm body of water. They definitely have some great space and comfortable seating. Again, this is coming from someone who also has a ton of years experience on one.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
When I first bought my pontoon up in the Florida Panhandle there was a family of several brothers, dad, grandpa, who sold Bennington pontoons. I specifically told them I wanted a boat I could go offshore fishing in. They suggested the Bennington and they all went offshore a lot in theirs 30 miles out. They said they did it all the time but picked their days. I called Bennington and asked them if their pontoons would break apart in rough water and they said absolutely not. They did say they didn't suggest taking a pontoon into the ocean. Of course whey would they suggest it and be held liable in some way. I don't go 30 miles out because I want to be able to run to shore really fast if the weather or Gulf gets nasty. 5 miles out is pretty safe for me with my experience but there are some new pontoon captains that may have a lot more trouble doing it until they learn. You have to surf with a pontoon, not cut through.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:48 AM
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This is a pontoon boat by my house! I think they forgot to take it out of the water for the last year or so!!
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Originally Posted by wshtb View Post
Who makes the biggest pontoon?
I've seen a couple 28-30 footers with twin 300's on them!!
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by N747JB View Post
I've seen a couple 28-30 footers with twin 300's on them!!
Ok, that would be a fast toon!
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That is hauling ass!!
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Old 10-25-2018, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
I've been doing it 18 years so have run into rough, surprise weather of course. I do keep an eagle eye on cloud formations, storms I see in the distance, NOAA, my weather channel while I'm offshore. If I see something coming that even looks a little bit iffy I head for shore. Some other boats out there don't have to cut and run so fast as I do and they can sit there and fish longer. I also don't stay out there and outrun spotty storms that we get here in Florida like some of the other boats do. I don't have that luxury. In other words, I try to stay away from storms and rough water at all times. I'm just saying in an emergency, my pontoon has done me well. My emergencies are not as bad as some others because I don't stay out there and chance anything.
I know people who've been driving and drinking for over 25 years...and never suffered any real consequences. But sooner or later, their number will be up. Your's will be up as well... but I really hope not. I would never wish disaster upon you, but it's all in the odds.
It's obvious nothing I-or anyone else-can say to dissuade you from doing what I know to be inherently dangerous. Just don't be telling someone else it's safe...'cause it ain't...
Anyway, my apologies to the OP for the derailment. I hope he gleans something from the opinions of the majority of those who responded.
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Old 10-25-2018, 12:36 PM
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There was a boat dealership in central Jersey that for a time advertised "Big water toons", they photographed it from the ground up to make the bow appear much higher off the ground, yes the ground and when I called them to say their add was irresponsible they tried backing up their claim that that toon was built stronger then a standard toon and higher due to the log size and center log. They have since stopped running the add (at least I've not seen it as of late.).
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:08 PM
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Wow, tons of conflicting arguments but the overall census is that A LOT MORE CAN GO WRONG WITH A TOON. I never intended on going into the open ocean but to get to the reef, there is a small distance.

ANYWAY, I found a couple of awesome cruisers that are huge but very affordable, so also after getting hammered about a bowrider in the ocean I just said screw it..............now I am shopping for a 32ft cruiser but these damn things are HUGE!!! Anyways, talking to someone, hopefully it checks out............it has two blown inboards and ALSO after getting hammered for taking I/O to Africa, I am looking to repower with Twin outboards with the savings.

And I do thank everyone for chiming in, appreciate the hammering, tons of great advice that will hopefully keep me profitable and enjoying my semi-retirement.
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Most of the posters are just trying to keep you out of foreseeable trouble.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
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Originally Posted by Wolakrab View Post
I know people who've been driving and drinking for over 25 years...and never suffered any real consequences. But sooner or later, their number will be up. Your's will be up as well... but I really hope not. I would never wish disaster upon you, but it's all in the odds.
It's obvious nothing I-or anyone else-can say to dissuade you from doing what I know to be inherently dangerous. Just don't be telling someone else it's safe...'cause it ain't...
Anyway, my apologies to the OP for the derailment. I hope he gleans something from the opinions of the majority of those who responded.
Wish you would point out somewhere in this thread where I told the OP it was safe? Hope nothing bad ever happens to you either so thanks!
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Originally Posted by Dacman View Post
Most of the posters are just trying to keep you out of foreseeable trouble.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Oh no, don't get it wrong, I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION!!! This is my life and possibly others so hammer away, my first boat was a 26ft Baja and I only used it on the lake for 2 yrs before I sold it so I am NOT and experienced boater.

Besides, the Cruisers have far greater advantages than a bowrider and cost less.............so an Outboard conversion bracket should have me square in the best of both worlds category for a fraction of the budget.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemini_nkr View Post
Oh no, don't get it wrong, I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION!!! This is my life and possibly others so hammer away, my first boat was a 26ft Baja and I only used it on the lake for 2 yrs before I sold it so I am NOT and experienced boater.

Besides, the Cruisers have far greater advantages than a bowrider and cost less.............so an Outboard conversion bracket should have me square in the best of both worlds category for a fraction of the budget.
Start a thread about buying a "cruiser" boat and converting it to outboard and you'll probably get a bigger response then the pontoon on the ocean question.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:31 PM
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The title of the thread is Pontoon in the OCEAN!!!
The Gulf is not the Ocean!!
​​​​​​Bring your pontoon offshore in the N.E and it won't
last 2 days
BTW ,5 Miles is NOT offshore
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