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Old 10-23-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BoatPoor2 View Post
You shouldn't guess. I've had everything from a Party Barge with a 35 Merc to a Crest with a 225 Honda. And I would be very surprised....if any of them performed worth a flip in open seas.
You mean you didn't try it? Guess you don't know then.
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
Huh......Didn't get that one, please rethink it.
stop being a bad person please.
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SWF Pontoon Angler View Post
You mean you didn't try it? Guess you don't know then.
Just to note, YOU ARE implying that it’s fine and dandy to do so whether you think you are advising or not.

Not a bad person , but defensive.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:48 PM
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Just to note, YOU ARE implying that it’s fine and dandy to do so whether you think you are advising or not.

Not a bad person , but defensive.
Actually i am thinking he sells pontoons. Not personal, just business
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A pontoon is a raft with a motor. We've been washed over many times the water just goes over the sides and out the back, we did lose a cooler once but other then wet legs it was no big deal. The Disney boats throw up one hell of a wake and we've rode out many of those. Almost got washed into the rocks when the motor didn't start but that's another story. I've seen youtube vids of pontoons going under but have seen sport-fishermen capsizing also.
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Well, there you have it. The voice of authority.

Mods, you can close this thread now
Thank you.
Prove me wrong....
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Originally Posted by Windham14 View Post
Thank you.
Prove me wrong....
You've been proven wrong over and over in this thread. SWFA has 18 years on the GoM with his pontoon. I've got 7 years in Ft. Myers with my current pontoon on the GoM. We both regularly go out offshore with them. We both take them down to the Keys every year. I go to Islamorada, Marathon, and Key Largo scuba diving off of it. Have not had a single dangerous situation.

So you've been proven wrong multiple times. Life is full of choices. You make yours, and I'll make mine.
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You've been proven wrong over and over in this thread. SWFA has 18 years on the GoM with his pontoon. I've got 7 years in Ft. Myers with my current pontoon on the GoM. We both regularly go out offshore with them. We both take them down to the Keys every year. I go to Islamorada, Marathon, and Key Largo scuba diving off of it. Have not had a single dangerous situation.

So you've been proven wrong multiple times. Life is full of choices. You make yours, and I'll make mine.
The fact that anyone is even arguing that a pontoon boat is a suitable boat to handle TYPICAL ocean/ gulf stream conditions is ridiculous. I guess you're going to tell me that your pontoon will run side by side with me (or any true offshore built center console) through the ocean in true 3' seas? Bullshit. What are you going to do when the wind changes and you're 50 miles offshore facing 4-5' seas?
I'm sure you would be ok on a very nice day with widely spread rollers but don't tell me it's a smooth/ dry ride in conditions that the ocean typically holds for most of us. A tri-toon I would imagine would do much better than a pontoon but it's still not an offshore rig. I am in no way putting down a pontoon or tri toon. I grew up on a pontoon at the lake and they are a lot of fun on the water. And you're right, we each get to make our own decisions. I'll agree with you on that.
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Originally Posted by Windham14 View Post
The fact that anyone is even arguing that a pontoon boat is a suitable boat to handle TYPICAL ocean/ gulf stream conditions is ridiculous. I guess you're going to tell me that your pontoon will run side by side with me (or any true offshore built center console) through the ocean in true 3' seas? Bullshit. What are you going to do when the wind changes and you're 50 miles offshore facing 4-5' seas?
I'm sure you would be ok on a very nice day with widely spread rollers but don't tell me it's a smooth/ dry ride in conditions that the ocean typically holds for most of us. A tri-toon I would imagine would do much better than a pontoon but it's still not an offshore rig. I am in no way putting down a pontoon or tri toon. I grew up on a pontoon at the lake and they are a lot of fun on the water. And you're right, we each get to make our own decisions. I'll agree with you on that.
50 miles offshore......huh? Side by side with true offshore CC.....huh? Who said all that? Did you take the time to watch the youtube video above about going to Cuba?
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Old 10-24-2018, 02:09 PM
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Things tend to work right up until they dont.

Even 31' cc has sunk in 4' seas
All it takes is to stuff bow, flood cockpit
Next you know it flips
happens in a blink

Happened to a 31' fountain on here once
$hit just goes wrong at 35 mph

BTW, No open bow boat can be called truly seaworthy for thus reason
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:00 PM
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if you dont have the wits about you and are scared to go in the ocean, dont go. i go all the time because i like and enjoy the deeper water fishing, but im always cautious. Im never afraid to run in the ocean in moderate chop and 1-3 ft seas, but do ut safely...enjoy
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:07 PM
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maybe you didnt react fast enough, you should have been aware of that wake and your surroundings. it sounds like operator error and no confidemce in your boat. ive in ft seal with fast rooling swells and never took a wave over the bow.
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my toon wont go as fast as your boat but it will take me longer to get in because we have to be safe. you say bullshit, i say theteeth in yourr mouth are clicking from all the banging your getting your ass hurts from sitting on that leaning post and your arms are tired from holding on. a boat is a boat and a cpt is a cpt and we do what we like. but dont say bullshit until you been on a 24 toon with a 200 on the back.and 30000 cheaper than yours with extreme comfort
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would love to match up a 24 toon against a 24 cc. 50 miles out, np whos going to be more comfortable and safer unless you have a whaler
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:25 PM
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he doesnt know because that his opinion. has he been on a pontoon anchored front n rear in 15 mi iwnds, dam i use a 10ft talon all the time, when i anchor 35 miles in to gulf in 30ft of water, i do it right. i could sip martinnis while he has a hard time holding on to a beer bottle. plus we have plush seating, we dont have to squeeze into the side to go front to rear, just an idiot not knowing what he is talking about.
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anyone can sink thats why their accidents, but most are operator error. the boat didnt go there by itself. you steered it into that condition.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:38 AM
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See, I'm not the only nut on here!
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I don't like the arguments that have been made for or against it. The 'for' arguments make it sound like the pontoon is the ultimate boat for any and all conditions anywhere and everywhere and the 'against' make it seem that only an ocean liner is capable of breaching past the inlet into open waters. Instead, I think those who are experienced using both types in the bay and open oceam should guide the OP., i.e; it takes experience, certain conditions, this type of equipment, this type of boat setup, etc, etc in a certain locale. Yes, it is capable if you build up experience, have this many occupants who ride in the back while under way, yada, yada...

I've been out in SWF and the Gulf off of Texas. Both are completely different and you can't make generalizations about both. I've been out off of Padre Island when it was spooky glass smooth all the way up to shore and other times when we we've been caught off guard and had to ride the waves in through the inlet next to surfers on the other side of the jetty. Jersey and California are going to be completely different as well. Even with that, I'd have no business telling him whether or not it can or should be done since I've never experienced it personally nor in his area. and yes, sometimes, chit happens.

What I wouldn't want to see happen is anyone getting themselves in danger, hurt or killed because they were misled. At the same time, it's foolish to say something isn't possible especially if you're not experienced in it. This isn't just for the OP but anyone who might search this topic on the internet and easily come across either of these arguments. I don't want some yahoo reading into this thinking that he can take "X" boat out into the ocean at "Y" location at any time and be perfectly safe. You also don't want someone to miss out on what might be an awesome opportunity and experience however there has to be a responsibility of guidance taken into account.
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We have a 25' Tritoon and a 24' Albemarle. The tritoon is a fantastic boat for its design purpose, as is the Albemarle. Our marina is on the Indian River Inlet in Delaware, 1/2 mile from the ocean. The tri-toon sees all the back water bays and estuaries where it performs great. The Albemarle runs 98% of the time in the open ocean. I will not run the tri-toon through the inlet, I just don't believe they are built for it and I have seen conditions go from glassy to big breakers in nothing flat. In fact, just the other day, pulling out of the marina an unusually steep boat wake came rolling across while I was idling out. It hit the front of the tri-toon wall so hard that it bent the door latch -- that wake wouldn't have phased the Albemarle.

ALSO, someone mentioned the video of the tri-toon that went to Cuba. That was a great video, but what they cut out of it was that they took a wave during the crossing that had them dead in the water and could have done much worse as they lost power and had to bail the hundreds of gallons of water out of the center toon storage area. Great boats, for their intended purposes!
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A pontoon is fine for salt water-as long as it's only used in bays or other sheltered waterways. Definitely not on the open seas.
And don't listen to those "just pick your day" comments...those folks have never been on the ocean when it's turned from a frog pond to a washing machine in the span of a couple of hours.
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Crackerasscracker gives good advise...you'd do well to heed it.
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