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21' Privateer Roamer II rebuild

Old 09-17-2018, 08:25 PM
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Default 21' Privateer Roamer II rebuild

Hey guys, first time poster, but long time reader here on THT! I've read many threads here about all sorts of topics and now would like some input from the THT community as I begin restoration of my 21 Privateer Roamer II. I had been looking for one of these hulls to use to fish the Chesapeake and her tributaries, so when this boat popped up in August for a solid price, I jumped on the opportunity. The boat spent the beginning part of her life on the Eastern Shore of Maryland where she was used by a waterman to pull pots and nets. Pretty typical history for these Privateers, but its what they were made to do.

Structurally shes in surprisingly good shape, the hull is sound, the gunnels have no soft spots, and the transom is decently solid. The floor needs replacing, the below deck tank was abandoned years ago and will need to be addressed, and the stringers will be assessed and most likely replaced while everything is apart. I have a shaky feeling the transom will have its own surprises as well, but if they are not detrimental I may put them on the back burner until the next phase of the build down the road, when I close the transom and add a bracket. We shall see.

Step one was to clean everything up and remove the 200hp yamaha salt water series engine as well as the 25hp suzuki kicker.
My grandfather and I built a stand for the engines and then, with a little help, removed the two engines and derigged the boat. Next all the hardware was removed from around the boat and the console was stripped clean and removed. I already have the tower Im putting on the boat, so I'm debating on whether or not to modify the current console to fit the tower, make a new one from scratch, or simply find one that fits the measurements. Anyone have any input?

Hopefully this week I'll be able to get to get the floor ripped out and the foam removed so that the tank and stringers can be checked out. Any and all ideas, criticisms, and comments are welcome. I am by no means an expert, but this is the largest build I have attempted on my own so bear with me if i have a lot of questions.
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:01 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen lol! They're good boats, seem to be very popular on the ES. Good luck with your build!
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:34 AM
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If you do the floor and stringers, I would also reccommend doing the transom at the same time that way they will all be tied together.
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Such a versatile rig. I fish the hell out of mine in the Bay. Good luck with the build.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:55 PM
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pics needed! I always loved the lines of these hulls.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:59 PM
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I love that hull. Please post some pictures of before and during the restoration. You should have a sweet rig when she is ready to splash again. I agree w/ the above comment: If you are doing stringers and deck, put a new transom in her as well. That way she is done for another 20-30 years.
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I appreciate all the responses and support from everyone, I will get pictures up as soon as I am
able. I keep getting a notification stating I cannot post URLs when I attempt to upload the images.

I do agree that the transom should be taken care of while everything is ripped into, my follow up question would be does anyone have any bracket recommendations, because if I redo the transom I’m just going to close it so that it is done with. No sense in doing a job halfway.

No further progress on the boat since yesterday, got home from work about an hour ago and am headed to bed shortly so I can get up at 5. Going to try and do some more demo tomorrow, weather pending.
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I agree with other statements regarding completing the transom along with the deck and stringer's. Going back later would be duplicating a lot of work.

good luck with the project, I look forward to seeing lots of progress photos.
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Originally Posted by Teer21 View Post
I appreciate all the responses and support from everyone, I will get pictures up as soon as I am
able. I keep getting a notification stating I cannot post URLs when I attempt to upload the images.

I do agree that the transom should be taken care of while everything is ripped into, my follow up question would be does anyone have any bracket recommendations, because if I redo the transom I’m just going to close it so that it is done with. No sense in doing a job halfway.

No further progress on the boat since yesterday, got home from work about an hour ago and am headed to bed shortly so I can get up at 5. Going to try and do some more demo tomorrow, weather pending.
You have to have 10 posts to add pics I think. I would call the Radcliffe’s (Privateer) and see if they can get you a deal on a bracket. Otherwise I know stainless marine and Armstrong come highly recommended. Good call closing it in now, otherwise you would end up wanting to sell the boat before tearing things apart again.
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Another option is to build your own bracket right onto the boat.

Since we’re already trying to convince you to do the deck/stringers/transom all at once you should check out the “Daytrip” integrated bracket method.

After seeing what he built it I was convinced it was the right move for my project and you may too.

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Originally Posted by KP06 View Post
Another option is to build your own bracket right onto the boat.

Since we’re already trying to convince you to do the deck/stringers/transom all at once you should check out the “Daytrip” integrated bracket method.

After seeing what he built it I was convinced it was the right move for my project and you may too.

BUILDING FIBERGLASS OUTBOARD BRACKET
That would probably be the best way to go, but I think I would just end up bolting on a bracket save a little time, but it sure does look nice
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Getting in on this, looking forward to pictures. Great boats, I have a 1999. Mine has a 225 Opti on a Porta Bracket. That bracket has saved me a few times. Good luck with it.
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I helped build a 21 and 24 Privateer. Both went with this bracket.
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Great boats and they are heavy. Both also have had wood issues One was a 97 and the other a 99.
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Originally Posted by Treble Maker View Post


You have to have 10 posts to add pics I think. I would call the Radcliffe’s (Privateer) and see if they can get you a deal on a bracket. Otherwise I know stainless marine and Armstrong come highly recommended. Good call closing it in now, otherwise you would end up wanting to sell the boat before tearing things apart again.
yeah I think I’ve only got a half a dozen or so posts so far, so I’ll respond to a few of you and reach the 10 post mark and upload some photos of what’s going on. I do like your idea of reaching out to the Radcliffe’s to see if they’d be willing to assist with the bracket portion. There’s a long way to go until it’s needed, but we may as well get the ball rolling
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yeah I think I’ve only got a half a dozen or so posts so far, so I’ll respond to a few of you and reach the 10 post mark and upload some photos of what’s going on. I do like your idea of reaching out to the Radcliffe’s to see if they’d be willing to assist with the bracket portion. There’s a long way to go until it’s needed, but we may as well get the ball rolling
There is a member on here (patton222 I think) that used to own one and said it was the best value in that size and style of boat out there. I have always like the lines of these hills and can’t wait to see the rebuild. Are you planning or using wood for the rebuild or composites? Just remember that going composite you will take a little weight out of the hull and make it faster and more efficient, but might also influence the ride.

Not it sure how fast you plan to move with this rebuild but I remember someone saying Armstrong was backed logged like 5 months for brackets so it defiantly helps to get things rolling sooner rather than later. Can’t wait to see some pics!
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Originally Posted by Treble Maker View Post


There is a member on here (patton222 I think) that used to own one and said it was the best value in that size and style of boat out there. I have always like the lines of these hills and can’t wait to see the rebuild. Are you planning or using wood for the rebuild or composites? Just remember that going composite you will take a little weight out of the hull and make it faster and more efficient, but might also influence the ride.

Not it sure how fast you plan to move with this rebuild but I remember someone saying Armstrong was backed logged like 5 months for brackets so it defiantly helps to get things rolling sooner rather than later. Can’t wait to see some pics!
I’m going to have to look up Patton222 and check out his rig now. The plan is to redo with wood for cost and performance reasons. As you said the composites would significantly reduce the weight which I feel would change the ride of the boat and make it get tossed around more. I’d rather sacrifice a few mph than ride comfort, but that’s just me.

My tentative timeline is to have the boat boat back in the water May next year. I’d like to be able to get on the drum when they come back. If Armstrong is really that backed up I’ll reach out to them sooner rather than later. I’ve got a buddy who has the same hull as me and is changing brackets in favor of a custom one, but he’s waiting for the dimensions to come from another guy. I think this is my tenth post so pics are on the way!
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