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Old 10-02-2018, 04:27 AM
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i am using coosa for my stringers. I redid the transom over the weekend and used marine plywood. The plywood was actually more expensive than the coosa. I am using 3/4 coosa for the stringers and doubling up the plywood to make a 1.5 inch transom. I put two knees in on the outside of the middle two stringers. Once I can make a thread Ill post pics.

I ordered a poly tank for mine, just waiting for it to be delivered before putting the stringers in. I talked to a few people and they recommended a poly tank, mostly because it was a lot cheaper than a stainless tank. I called a few shops and the price for a stainless tank was about double what I paid for the poly tank.
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:10 AM
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Great hulls, best of luck with the rebuild
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:25 AM
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I have never worked with coosa but from what I hear it is much easier to work with than wood, that being said, if you have intentions of keeping the boat for 30 years I would have no hesitation using marine ply. The wood out there now is much better than what was in the boat originally and if you take the extra steps to ensure good bond and prevent water intrusion, it will last a LONG time.

Now if if you might sell the boat in a few years then I would go coosa, because that would defiantly help with the resale of the vessel.

As others have said your choices for tanks are aluminum and poly, the Monel is very very expensive, we were looking at using some where I work, but it ended up not working for our application.

look into having an aluminum tank coated by Sarasota line-x, they do some pretty cool stuff over there.
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Regarding your raising the deck to accommodate a heavier motor in the future - great idea. I wish I had done that.

I believe Privateer (now Radcliffe) was molding a modified hull cap that would take up the height difference when raising a deck. Not saying you should buy a cap from them (if they are still making them), but you may want to try and get in touch with them and see what they recommend.

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Regarding storage, on my Retriever we added a dry storage box under the leaning post. My fuel tank is above deck, under the console seat - the seat is hinged forward. It's a 31 gallon aluminum tank, made to fit the space. It's really nice to have easy access.

Great project, looking forward to your progress.
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bayroamer94 View Post
i am using coosa for my stringers. I redid the transom over the weekend and used marine plywood. The plywood was actually more expensive than the coosa. I am using 3/4 coosa for the stringers and doubling up the plywood to make a 1.5 inch transom. I put two knees in on the outside of the middle two stringers. Once I can make a thread Ill post pics.

I ordered a poly tank for mine, just waiting for it to be delivered before putting the stringers in. I talked to a few people and they recommended a poly tank, mostly because it was a lot cheaper than a stainless tank. I called a few shops and the price for a stainless tank was about double what I paid for the poly tank.
Nice work man. Where are you located? I知 wondering because maybe I can use your same source for materials. I知 in the hampton roads area in VA.
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Originally Posted by Treble Maker View Post
I have never worked with coosa but from what I hear it is much easier to work with than wood, that being said, if you have intentions of keeping the boat for 30 years I would have no hesitation using marine ply. The wood out there now is much better than what was in the boat originally and if you take the extra steps to ensure good bond and prevent water intrusion, it will last a LONG time.

Now if if you might sell the boat in a few years then I would go coosa, because that would defiantly help with the resale of the vessel.

As others have said your choices for tanks are aluminum and poly, the Monel is very very expensive, we were looking at using some where I work, but it ended up not working for our application.

look into having an aluminum tank coated by Sarasota line-x, they do some pretty cool stuff over there.
I do believe I will end up with an aluminum tank for the shear sake of size availability. I can have one made by a friend to my exact specs. Also I値l be having it tar coated before installation. That痴 a very good idea. Thanks
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:26 AM
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Nice work man. Where are you located? I知 wondering because maybe I can use your same source for materials. I知 in the hampton roads area in VA.
I'm in portsmouth, VA. I get my supplies from eastern burlap in norfolk. They do not carry marine plywood but theres a place pretty close to them that does. I can't remember the name of the place right off hand.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:41 AM
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Great project. Tearing out the foam is no fun, eh? I found no real short cut on that...just hunched over hard work. Keep up the good work.
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Old 10-03-2018, 06:16 AM
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When cutting out structure, make sure you block up the hull so it will not twist or sag. Without the stringers, it becomes quite flexible and if you glass them in with a twist, the twist stays. Consider replacing stringers one at a time for this reason.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:11 AM
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not sure how I missed this, awesome project. I'm just south of you in Chesapeake rebuilding of formula. The guys at Eastern burlap are definitely awesome to work with and always very friendly and helpful. Anything you can get in bulk, I would try to do it. If not you end up nickel-and-diming going along. Full roll 1708 it's so much cheaper than going in for 20 yards at a time. only bad thing about burlap is the only epoxy they carry is West system. Had all my stuff shipped up out of Florida from US Composites. As long as you can fill up a pallet they'll ship it to Southeastern Freight for about a hundred bucks.

How big of a tank do you want to put in the boat? I've got 2 mid 60 gallon aluminum tanks I had originally thought about using in my boat I won't be using after all. They're both in good shape, I just ran across a better deal on a bigger tank if you're interested
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Floatingalong View Post
not sure how I missed this, awesome project. I'm just south of you in Chesapeake rebuilding of formula. The guys at Eastern burlap are definitely awesome to work with and always very friendly and helpful. Anything you can get in bulk, I would try to do it. If not you end up nickel-and-diming going along. Full roll 1708 it's so much cheaper than going in for 20 yards at a time. only bad thing about burlap is the only epoxy they carry is West system. Had all my stuff shipped up out of Florida from US Composites. As long as you can fill up a pallet they'll ship it to Southeastern Freight for about a hundred bucks.

How big of a tank do you want to put in the boat? I've got 2 mid 60 gallon aluminum tanks I had originally thought about using in my boat I won't be using after all. They're both in good shape, I just ran across a better deal on a bigger tank if you're interested


I used west systems epoxy on my transom, should I have used something different? it seems to have a strong bond. This is my first build also so I am learning as I go along.

As for the tanks, what are the dimensions? I might be interested in one.
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Originally Posted by bayroamer94 View Post
I used west systems epoxy on my transom, should I have used something different? it seems to have a strong bond. This is my first build also so I am learning as I go along.

As for the tanks, what are the dimensions? I might be interested in one.

​​​​​​West system is basically the industry standard for epoxy, they're just very proud of that name. If you use West system you should be good to go! I had a hard time swallowing that bill looking at the difference between West system and some of the other epoxies when you start talking about 50 or more gallons

I'll get you a dimension on the tanks later today when I get home and shoot you a message
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Originally Posted by Floatingalong View Post
​​​​​​West system is basically the industry standard for epoxy, they're just very proud of that name. If you use West system you should be good to go! I had a hard time swallowing that bill looking at the difference between West system and some of the other epoxies when you start talking about 50 or more gallons

I'll get you a dimension on the tanks later today when I get home and shoot you a message
The epoxy was expensive, I am using polyester on the rest of the boat and that wasn't as bad of a price.
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Originally Posted by Floatingalong View Post
not sure how I missed this, awesome project. I'm just south of you in Chesapeake rebuilding of formula. The guys at Eastern burlap are definitely awesome to work with and always very friendly and helpful. Anything you can get in bulk, I would try to do it. If not you end up nickel-and-diming going along. Full roll 1708 it's so much cheaper than going in for 20 yards at a time. only bad thing about burlap is the only epoxy they carry is West system. Had all my stuff shipped up out of Florida from US Composites. As long as you can fill up a pallet they'll ship it to Southeastern Freight for about a hundred bucks.

How big of a tank do you want to put in the boat? I've got 2 mid 60 gallon aluminum tanks I had originally thought about using in my boat I won't be using after all. They're both in good shape, I just ran across a better deal on a bigger tank if you're interested
I知 wanting to put in a tank around 65 gallons or so to get me the range I知 looking for. When you get a chance could you pm me the dimensions, as well as a price. Thanks
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:22 PM
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No major progress to report, foam is out, got about 10 big trash bags full, plus random big pieces loaded up and ready to go. Been busy with work and prepping for duck season. Going to get the transom stripped this weekend
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I had a 2018 Privateer 24 built this summer.Had cust-alum brackets build the bracket for my 250 zuk. Radcliffe marine did the measuring and installed the bracket. The owners name is Byron and is based in Mississippi. He charged me $1100 which included painting and shipping. The other company mentioned above quoted me $2100. I think Radcligfe charged me $200 to install.
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No major progress to report, foam is out, got about 10 big trash bags full, plus random big pieces loaded up and ready to go. Been busy with work and prepping for duck season. Going to get the transom stripped this weekend
Good luck with the transom. I posted my rebuild thread last night. a couple pointers I was given is to use a chisel blade for a sawzall, It helped alot with getting the big pieces out. Be careful around the edges as I went through the hull twice. It is time consuming, it took me a weekend to get it all out, just keep grinding away.
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Originally Posted by Jchacos View Post
I had a 2018 Privateer 24 built this summer.Had cust-alum brackets build the bracket for my 250 zuk. Radcliffe marine did the measuring and installed the bracket. The owners name is Byron and is based in Mississippi. He charged me $1100 which included painting and shipping. The other company mentioned above quoted me $2100. I think Radcligfe charged me $200 to install.
Woah 1100$?? I know you致e only had the bracket for a summer, but does it seem good quality? Thanks for the intel
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Originally Posted by bayroamer94 View Post
Good luck with the transom. I posted my rebuild thread last night. a couple pointers I was given is to use a chisel blade for a sawzall, It helped alot with getting the big pieces out. Be careful around the edges as I went through the hull twice. It is time consuming, it took me a weekend to get it all out, just keep grinding away.
Good deal man, I値l be sure to follow yours as you go along. I知 hunting in the morning, but tomorrow afternoon I値l be on grinding away on the transom
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Woah 1100$?? I know you致e only had the bracket for a summer, but does it seem good quality? Thanks for the intel
I had him give me 3 references. I called them all. One was an owner of a marina in Ca. Byron had done 5 of them for him. His experience was good. Privateer was impressed with the quality
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