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Old 09-06-2018, 04:28 AM
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My boat is a Triton 2690 WA (27 ft), it's a typical walk around. Twin Yamaha 200 four strokes on the back. I am going to replace old anchor rode and a small amount of chain and was considering using all chain, probably 200 feet of it. The weight of 200 feet of quarter inch chain is 146 pounds. Doesn't seem like much to me but does anyone think this is a problem having all chain in the anchor Locker of the boat that is this small? Will it affect the handling of the boat and any significant weight?

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Old 09-06-2018, 04:38 AM
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146 pounds would be equal to someone standing on the bow, so probably would not be any issue with handling. You should definitely be able to get a good purchase with that much chain rode. Typically you want at least 6 times as much rode out as your depth. 30 foot depth=180 foot of rode. Most boaters want enough chain to keep the shank parallel to the bottom to drive in your flukes. Most people do not use enough. I typically use 12 foot.
Only problem I could see is having to haul that by hand but if you have a windlass, you are good to go!
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Old 09-06-2018, 05:01 AM
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I hope you've got a windlass.

2 other things: The stretch in actual rope can be a good thing and I wouldn't want that much chain banging around in my anchor locker just cause it would probably damage it.
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Old 09-06-2018, 05:05 AM
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A friend had all chain 200' on his 27' Sea Ray didn't care for it now when I need a pc of chain I know where to go. The problem with all chain like said no strech
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Old 09-06-2018, 05:17 AM
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Rust baby Rust.You would'nt set all chain unless you are dropping a permenent mooring,hard in the hands and heavy.Just 20 ft ss chain and a Fortress for a lunch anchor is all you need.
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There may be bigger boats that use all chain for anchoring...but for a boat your size I just cant wrap my head around having that weight up in the anchor locker..

Hell, a few hundred feet or rode and 25' to 50' of chain should be as much as any boat your size should carry. I only have 15' on my rig and never find problems setting an anchor..
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No stretch, if your ever in rough water anchored, your boat will take a beating. The rope acts like a shock absorber and lessens the impact from waves as the boat moves around. Not only will your boat will take a beating, and the equipment, so will you. 15-20 feet is all you need on your anchor.
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There may be bigger boats that use all chain for anchoring...but for a boat your size I just cant wrap my head around having that weight up in the anchor locker..

Hell, a few hundred feet or rode and 25' to 50' of chain should be as much as any boat your size should carry. I only have 15' on my rig and never find problems setting an anchor..
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I usually use 1 boat length of chain.
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Personally I love my 100’ of chain rode before it is spliced to 8-plait. My chain is 5/8” which is obviously way over sized for a 26 foot LOA boat, however I anchor frequently in tight anchorges and the weight of the chain does exactly what others are saying above, keep the shank of the anchor parallel to the ocean floor. It does so with 3:1 scope easily, which I only use in protected anhorages. When out in the open and at 5/7:1, it definitely helps with setting and staying set. However, I DO have a windlass that takes care of pulling it up or else I would go lighter. I also am stern heavy, and the weight up front helps fast planing and balance, and it helped my handling.
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Old 09-06-2018, 06:32 AM
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Most cruisers who use all chain have a bridle from the cleats with a hook for the chain that gives the rode a bit of stretch to act as a shock absorber; Mantus makes nice ones.

Rolling chain can tangle up bad in the locker which can be an issue.
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Was having issues with 15ft not holding on windy choppy days. Recently went to 25ft and all is good. It’s amazing what just a little added chain can do for holding bottom.
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I think a lot of good and accurate info here--all chain provides less shock absorption and this can be offset with the use of a bridle, which slightly complicates the anchoring process.
Although the catenary of the all chain rode does provide some shock absorption.

I know the standard recommendation is 5 to 7 times the water depth plus the distance from bow pulpit to the water for rode but in practice (unless preparing for storm) most people with all chain rode use approx 3x depth for rode.
The main purpose of the chain (as stated above) is to alter the angle of the anchor in relationship to the bottom. Also to provide abrasion resistance if in an area where that is a problem.
Some people avoid chain if they think it will damage the underwater environment.
I would think there would be little benefit for a boat your size to carry all chain rode. But..just my opinion.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:36 AM
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you'll pull your cleat right off in rough weather.
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:03 AM
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Lots of bad information here, first rust, not going to be a problem, I anchored out 24/7 for over 3 years, the chain is still fine, it will be hard on your cleats etc. not necessarily, in strong winds the chain acts like a long weight, slowly lifts from the bottom from the boat going foward to the anchor, then when pressure lets off it settles back on the bottom, I did use a nylon snubber line attached to the bow hook at the water line, it doesn't bang around in the locker, besides it's an anchor locker it was ment to get beat up. I led my chain through pvc pipe back 8 feet from the bow to get the weight further back. I was on a 28' sailboat and carried 300' of 3/8 chain and primary anchor was a 45# CQR, never drug my anchor and even when in 40 knots of wind and a 50' fishing boat broke free from it's anchor and got it rear roller tubing caught on the end of my bow sprit, my anchor and all chain held my boat and his boat which was side ways to the wind, I say there is a case for all chain. In your case I would figure out the depth you normally anchor in and carry enough chain to use all chain with a nylon anchor line attached for the rare deeper anchoring times, If you anchor out and sleep aboard, you will appricate all chain because you boat won't roam all around the anchorage
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About 95% of you need to google anchor snubber, you don't tie your chain rode off to a cleat and if you think this is how it works please stop giving advice on a boating forum. The benefits of all chain rode far outweigh the negatives of a little extra weight and chain doesn't bang around in the anchor locker as suggested.
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LOL all chain is better except for that whole needing a snubber part.

For normal every day use, anchoring on a fishing spot, or anchoring for the day somewhere, the expense and weight of all chain is not needed. Sailing around and anchoring for medium/long term in harbours sure, probably works better then.
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Said like someone that has never used one. Do what works for you but don't mislead people about the effort involved. It literally takes fifteen seconds longer to attach a snubber than to just tie off the line rode to a cleat.
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What happens if you have all chain and you get a stuck anchor?
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What happens if you have all chain and you get a stuck anchor?
You don't have to pay a slip rental anymore.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:37 AM
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Thanks guys for all of the replies. I used to be a cruising sailor and I am familiar with snubbers and bridals so it was my intent to use one all along. Thank you for mentioning it though so others can learn from it. I am a fair-weather boater and fair weather fisherman so rough weather will not be a problem. I also do not take her out overnight so that eliminates that problem. The deepest I will anchor is probably 45 feet so 200 feet gives me 3:1 plus a 20 foot cushion. Rust is not an issue, never has been. Luckily cost is not take an issue. ​​​​​Additionally someone made the point that it's really only like the weight of someone sitting on the bow. So... I think I will go with the 200' of chain, use a snubber, and add 50 feet or so of 8-plait rode just in case I need a little extra.

If it turns out to be a disaster for some unforeseen reason I will have some chain to sell and I will post back here the reasons why it was a disaster

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