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Old 08-21-2018, 06:40 AM
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Default 34' Center Console moderate/high Moisture readings- do we walk away?

In the process of buying a 34' Nor-Tech. Survey was completed yesterday.

What is concerning is that the report states 'Moisture readings were consistently moderate/high between the strakes and in the area of the steps. These areas also sounded hollow.'

First time we are buying a used boat.

Thoughts?
Old 08-21-2018, 07:09 AM
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Nor-tech do not have cored bottoms, as far as I know. I would call nor-tech and discuss the boat with them. If it is wet, I’m certain that they would like to know.
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cant the fiberglass get "soaked" just like any other material as long as it is exposed to water? We've had an issue with the stepped bunks on our lift and trying to muscle the boat off at low tide (NOT a good idea...) and have gotten some chips and cracks on the leading edge of the step as the edge of the step banged into the lift bunk. we are still working on finding a reputable shop in the Naples are to repair the damage (the boat has been racked inside for the summer).Having said that I could see a scenario where this could be a problem.
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With the note that I am not an expert and don't know NorTech construction really well... given that it is in the hull bottom and, it sounds like, in areas of sharp curves, I would be more inclined to expect this is due to voids in the sharp corners coupled to osmosis. Is this a bottom painted boat that lived in the water?

In any case, I think the answer to "should I walk?" is maybe... you should find out the potential causes and severity. If it is a solid bottom, there is not a major structural concern, but you could have a fairly extensive job to grind and repair voids in the hull, (if that is what they are). In your place, I would just want to know for sure what I am up against.
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Doesn't Nortech use a vacuum bagging process? Wouldn't such a process ensure that there are no voids? I have no idea but I hope smarter people than me can help me out.
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It's a boat. Water should be on the outside, not the inside. Not a professional but i would look for another boat.
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Id call nortech about this. Ask them what their thoughts are on it. id probably also ask the surveyor exactly what he found.
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What year is the boat? Can't imagine there are to many 340's for sale.
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Originally Posted by MUHSFINK07 View Post
Doesn't Nortech use a vacuum bagging process? Wouldn't such a process ensure that there are no voids? I have no idea but I hope smarter people than me can help me out.
No vacuum bagging at Nor Tech. Infusion won’t prevent air voids entirely, it depends on how good the infusion team is at the process. Things can happen in any lamination process. Nor Tech hand laminates it Boats and is not a cored bottom. If there is water at the strakes, then there is likely an air void. It happens, have a reputable glass repair professional assess and give you an estimate of the work.

It wouldnt prevent me from buying the boat once I got an idea of the scope of work needed to resolve the issue.
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Ill bet if you call NT they will offer to look at it for you. This is the first complaint i personally have ever heard.
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Had a surveyor ding a boat I was selling due to elevated moisture in the hull.
Buyer was about to walk away, naturally.
I was confident there was no way, so I took a holesaw to the inside of the hull and cut out coupons.
Dry as a bone and with good adhesion.
Surveyor shrugs and goes, "That's what the meter said..."

Not saying there isn't moisture. But moisture meters can pick up all sorts of things that don't equate to a compromised hull, or anything wrong at all, for that matter..
Talk to NT and dig a little deeper to find out whats in or on the other side of that laminate.
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I have a friend that was certified to survey boats. She does not know jack sh*** about boats in general, she is a friend but one of the last people I would call to discuss buying a boat with but she has the "certification" for what its worth. If I were you and I were truly concerned about water intrusion & associated issues I would get a surveyor that has a thermal imaging camera.

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Get a different surveryor that understands what the meter is actually telling him. if there are bulkheads where he is reading it there will be a "high" reading. X2 on the thermal imaging. that will tell you a lot more than a meter.
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You can’t use a moisture meter around steps. The density changes drastically. Hell the meters don’t work for sh-t on any compound surfaces
better to use this.

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On steps and just about any angle greater than a 90, there's almost invariably voids present between the chop and the first layer of glass. That doesn't mean the boat will fall apart, but it will show a different reading on moisture meters. If you've ever laid glass into a mold you'll know that it just doesn't go into tight corners very well. Look around at boats on trailers and you'll see chips out of the corners on the steps on every brand.
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kinda proves the point that boat stands for "break out another thousand..."

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Boys, OP opened his account at 9:15am and has last checked in at 11:15am. I feel like we’re talking to ourselves again...
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are we seeing a trend here with trolls? lol
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OP= not a troll. She was actually working all day and created the account and asked the question because I was flying all day. To all those who actually provided intelligent input thank you. I did speak to Nor-Tech yesterday and they are awesome folks. I think it’s a combination of things going on but will update when I find a definitive answer.
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Originally Posted by shanwed View Post
In the process of buying a 34' Nor-Tech. Survey was completed yesterday.

What is concerning is that the report states 'Moisture readings were consistently moderate/high between the strakes and in the area of the steps. These areas also sounded hollow.'

First time we are buying a used boat.

Thoughts?
Depends on who the surveyor is.

Most surveyors don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

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