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Old 04-06-2019, 09:48 AM
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:04 AM
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Potential layout. What is everyone's opinion?



I might switch the wet sounds radio with the autopilot
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Old 04-06-2019, 12:10 PM
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You dont really need the ap44. The mfd interface is very easy and accessible from either station. I think I'd go for as large a simrad as I could fit in the space used for Evenrude display. Unless that display does more than the N2k on the Simrad.

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Old 04-06-2019, 07:33 PM
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Looks good, I would run the acrylic for the panel from side to side of the console in stead of just having it over a portion of it.
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:55 PM
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Need more cup holders!
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I've not really looked at them but tunes can be done on the Simrad. I dont like much noise myself but agreed sometimes a little traveling tunes suites the mood. Note when people come down the creek with bad no talent music blarring... It doesn't fit. One day I'll have an EMP device. So handy.

Having two marine radios is a plus. Though I dont talk much on the radio we monitor one channel for local captains and 16 for hailing. If there is an emergency it's a PIA to keep switching.

Phones, binoculars, whistles all need a safe easy reach non clanking home. With chargers for the phones.

No matter how much you plan there will be Chit all over the top of the console. A dark colored no skid won't reflect to you eyes and keeps stuff from sliding around.

All inducator lghts for that area need a common dimmer so you can turn them down to near nothing. When running at night you want as little glare as possible. Most panel lights are way too bright. The Simrads have easy access to night mode and dimming. Adjust one they all follow. Not sure about that BRP display. Another reason why you maybe dont need it.

Are you running fuel gauges to the Simrads? Those are the only 2 gauges I have other than the 3 for Yamis. They are the ones I need to add the dimmer. Pulled the wire for now but you need a gauge.

That strip of switches, run it all the way across. You will need more never want to add another strip. In a pinch you have spares you can move around and having that one you never use is a blessing vs. Not enough. Segregate them into colored groups and leave spaces for likely future adds in the groups. For now the dark unused ones help mark locations.

Raised letters can be read with fingers. I even thought about Brail or Morse markings. A = ._, S = .... Decided on Morse but the point is feeling it. Knowing morse could be handy when you start your rum smuggling operation too. ;->
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Did some reading. Okay so you DO want the Evinrude screen. Rigging manual page 6 for a start.

Things of note. Reads fuel tank levels so you won't need those gauges.
Tweaking settings for various things. You won't have those in the Simrad displays.

Of Note: Compatible with Auto Pilot – No added expense of additional steering components required

https://www.evinrude.com/content/dam...Catalog-En.pdf
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More cup holders! Also I agree extra switches for future electronic add ons.
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Originally Posted by Jumpsummo View Post
Did some reading. Okay so you DO want the Evinrude screen. Rigging manual page 6 for a start.

Things of note. Reads fuel tank levels so you won't need those gauges.
Tweaking settings for various things. You won't have those in the Simrad displays.

Of Note: Compatible with Auto Pilot – No added expense of additional steering components required

https://www.evinrude.com/content/dam...Catalog-En.pdf
I brought up the idea of not getting the evinrude display with Dave and just running a smaller simrad unit instead. He reached out to evinrude and they didnt recommend it. Said it's fine when working, but if you need to trouble shoot something the evinrude unit does more than the simrad. Or something like that.
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More cup holders! Also I agree extra switches for future electronic add ons.
Cant go wrong with more cup holders. Lol

I agree With the switches. Will probably put in a few extra. Plus breaker panel can handle a few more.
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I have no idea where you can add another cup holder but just one would be unacceptable to me. That would drive me nuts every time I took her out.

Why are there switches for the radar and autopilot?

Get rid of the antenna puck on top of the console.

I had a small acrylic lip placed all around the top of the console to keep the inevitable “stuff” that gets put up there from sliding off.

Where are the VHF mic(s)? Another pet peeve of mine is flopping mic chords...especially overhead. Overhead electronics are difficult to use and see. I would avoid that if at all possible.

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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post
I have no idea where you can add another cup holder but just one would be unacceptable to me. That would drive me nuts every time I took her out.

Why are there switches for the radar and autopilot?

Get rid of the antenna puck on top of the console.

I had a small acrylic lip placed all around the top of the console to keep the inevitable “stuff” that gets put up there from sliding off.

Where are the VHF mic(s)? Another pet peeve of mine is flopping mic chords...especially overhead. Overhead electronics are difficult to use and see. I would avoid that if at all possible.
It normally has 2 cup holders. I'm using the real estate for one of them for the idock. I will have 4 cup holders on the back side of the chair on the tackle center. I can always add a few cup holders in the gunnel at a later date.

All good suggestions. Thanks!
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Can the Idock go where the AP is and move the AP next to the radio so you can add a second helm cup holder? The only question is if you would bump the Idock while working the throttles or MFDs. I really think you are going to hate it when your wife uses the single cup holder and you are constantly reaching behind or running to the gunwale. I predict a lot of spilled beer otherwise.

I have 4 cup holders at the helm along with several in the gunwale and seat back. The helm ones are all used most of the time. Phones, glasses etc end up in a couple and drinks in the others. It can be addressed now and look right during the build or I would wager you will end up with some add on jury rigged deal later. I sure understand that everything is a compromise during a build like this and it can make you crazy but things you use every single time you run the boat are the most important.





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Another thought is to add a couple of cup holders on top of the console with good drains.
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post
Another thought is to add a couple of cup holders on top of the console with good drains.
This was my back up, back up plan.
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Filled all 27 dammit

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Put some USB charging ports inside the shelf for phones. You could move the keys down into the recessed area in front of your knees if you needed to free up some space. Looks friggin sweet!
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Good looking build, congrats. I stopped by and looked at the eastward boats at MIBS and they look like a great buy.

Couple questions about your switch layout.

- Why do you have a switch for electronics power? They can all get power when you turn on the battery switch. (switch 3)
- Why have a switch for autopilot and radar? They will only consume power when being used and are already controlled through MFD's. (Switches 4 and 5)
- Cant the anchor and NAV switches be combined? I thought Boca had switches with 2 positions. (switches 8 and 9)
- Why two different switches for cockpit lights? Are they RGB lights? Cant you just toggle through the colors to get what you want? (switches 13 and 14)
- For the bilge pump why do you need a switch for the auto? They should be wired right to the battery. I believe with the Boca switches, and others, if the bilge pump runs automatically the light on the switch goes on but the switch itself only controls the manual function. (switches 20 - 23)
- For the fishbox pumps what is the difference between 'pump on' and 'masserator'? (switches 24-27)

These questions come out of curiosity, im not trying to be negative in any way. I know everyone likes to have things setup differently and im curious why you chose to do certain things.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey111k View Post
Good looking build, congrats. I stopped by and looked at the eastward boats at MIBS and they look like a great buy.

Couple questions about your switch layout.

- Why do you have a switch for electronics power? They can all get power when you turn on the battery switch. (switch 3)
- Why have a switch for autopilot and radar? They will only consume power when being used and are already controlled through MFD's. (Switches 4 and 5)
- Cant the anchor and NAV switches be combined? I thought Boca had switches with 2 positions. (switches 8 and 9)
- Why two different switches for cockpit lights? Are they RGB lights? Cant you just toggle through the colors to get what you want? (switches 13 and 14)
- For the bilge pump why do you need a switch for the auto? They should be wired right to the battery. I believe with the Boca switches, and others, if the bilge pump runs automatically the light on the switch goes on but the switch itself only controls the manual function. (switches 20 - 23)
- For the fishbox pumps what is the difference between 'pump on' and 'masserator'? (switches 24-27)

These questions come out of curiosity, im not trying to be negative in any way. I know everyone likes to have things setup differently and im curious why you chose to do certain things.
That wasnt my layout. Scroll up for mine.
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That wasnt my layout. Scroll up for mine.
Sorry....saw the new picture and assumed it was an updated layout, i didn't pay attention to who posted it. You know what they say when you assume......
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