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Old 12-06-2018, 11:22 AM
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The bolts are secured into the boat and a few attach the pods and platform together from me memory.

The rigging has what looks like a water tight rubber gasket.


Drool.......WANT........lol
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Grey,

Once we weigh mine finished I'll post for you.
Thank you.

I'm a little ways off from being able to get a new boat, and maybe by then they'll have decided to build some 25-26 foot ones that I should have no problem towing.
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[QUOTE=billablehours;12038331]
I asked on the other thread also but was wondering if this was the first one of their boats with a walk though transom. Every other one I have seen has a solid transom. I was just wondering what structural modifications they did besides just cutting the opening and glassing the sides. That can be a real high stress bending and flexing area between the sponsons.

If you look at the pics below, you'll see that the actual transom core spans the tunnel from side to side. The portion of the hull above the transom is more of an extension of the cap then it is a structural part of the hull. The walk-through is cut above the transom core so it does not effect the structural integrity of the hull. In the pic you can see the break line of the transom shear, the walk-through is cut above the break line. To either side of the walk-through we have glassed in gunnel supports that in effect become transom knees. I have done this same style walk-through on many other cats that I have built in the past and it's never been a problem.
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the From the manufacturer in his other build thread:
The center console, powered with a pair of Evinrude G2 200s and aluminum trailer is 99K. I believe the average boat will end up around 120K to 130K by the time it's tricked out with T-Top, electronics, etc. We also factory rig with Mercury.

was the introductory pricing. It has gone up for the 2019 build year. Suggest contacting Dave for updated pricing as there are just a few 2019 slots left.
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I asked on the other thread also but was wondering if this was the first one of their boats with a walk though transom. Every other one I have seen has a solid transom. I was just wondering what structural modifications they did besides just cutting the opening and glassing the sides. That can be a real high stress bending and flexing area between the sponsons.

If you look at the pics below, you'll see that the actual transom core spans the tunnel from side to side. The portion of the hull above the transom is more of an extension of the cap then it is a structural part of the hull. The walk-through is cut above the transom core so it does not effect the structural integrity of the hull. In the pic you can see the break line of the transom shear, the walk-through is cut above the break line. To either side of the walk-through we have glassed in gunnel supports that in effect become transom knees. I have done this same style walk-through on many other cats that I have built in the past and it's never been a problem.
Thanks for the insight. Sounds like you guys did it right with good planning. There is a major player in the cat market that never seems to offer that highly desired option. When I was deciding upon a boat and inquired about a transom door option the owner became very defensive. That was the end of the my interest in that boat
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Originally Posted by BassnBays View Post
Thanks for the insight. Sounds like you guys did it right with good planning. There is a major player in the cat market that never seems to offer that highly desired option. When I was deciding upon a boat and inquired about a transom door option the owner became very defensive. That was the end of the my interest in that boat
It makes me wonder why some boat makers don't seem to understand their customers - cats have HUGE appeal to divers for many reasons, the most important of which is ease of getting into the boat in full dive gear. To be averse to installing or designing a transom door is a huge turn off to most of us.
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It makes me wonder why some boat makers don't seem to understand their customers - cats have HUGE appeal to divers for many reasons, the most important of which is ease of getting into the boat in full dive gear. To be averse to installing or designing a transom door is a huge turn off to most of us.


Cat builders have appealed to divers for a long time with dive doors, huge platforms, and big ladders that get in the way for fishing. Now the fishing crowd is turning its attention to cats, and that stuff is not wanted by most, thus not offerred by those who are building fishing boats, so I get it. Its hard to call it a “tuna door”, as either not wide enough or hard to bring in a fish between the engines. It depends on your needs and wants. I personally would have a clean transom, as I do not dive, but good to see Eastward will acvomodate based on customer needs.

As far as not skimping on options, I dont necessarily agree that you need to go all out on the build unless financing and trying to get it all in on the loan to pay over time. Adding accessories, like the Gemlux outriggers, can be added over time as one can afford to do so. My first boat came with no T-Top or electronics. I added a GPS after a year, then after a couple of years the T-Top, then added the accessories onto the T-Top, installed my own rod holders up front, then additional accessories as I was able to do so, but I was out on the water fay one. There is always going to be something new that comes out that you see and want, but adding all the accessories at once can make an affordable boat quickly not affordsble. Its not like car options where its all made at the factory. Most of the accessories are not made by the builder but simply installed by them. This is whats great about local custom builders, they will do what you like and can afford, whereas dealers will have one base boat on their lot to get you in the door at low entry price, but several that are heavily optioned out and will try to steer you to those so they can sell you that one on a loan where they are also making the reserve income paid by the bank.
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There's more than one way to skin a cat.
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Cat builders have appealed to divers for a long time with dive doors, huge platforms, and big ladders that get in the way for fishing. Now the fishing crowd is turning its attention to cats, and that stuff is not wanted by most, thus not offerred by those who are building fishing boats, so I get it. Its hard to call it a “tuna door”, as either not wide enough or hard to bring in a fish between the engines. It depends on your needs and wants. I personally would have a clean transom, as I do not dive, but good to see Eastward will acvomodate based on customer needs.

As far as not skimping on options, I dont necessarily agree that you need to go all out on the build unless financing and trying to get it all in on the loan to pay over time. Adding accessories, like the Gemlux outriggers, can be added over time as one can afford to do so. My first boat came with no T-Top or electronics. I added a GPS after a year, then after a couple of years the T-Top, then added the accessories onto the T-Top, installed my own rod holders up front, then additional accessories as I was able to do so, but I was out on the water fay one. There is always going to be something new that comes out that you see and want, but adding all the accessories at once can make an affordable boat quickly not affordsble. Its not like car options where its all made at the factory. Most of the accessories are not made by the builder but simply installed by them. This is whats great about local custom builders, they will do what you like and can afford, whereas dealers will have one base boat on their lot to get you in the door at low entry price, but several that are heavily optioned out and will try to steer you to those so they can sell you that one on a loan where they are also making the reserve income paid by the bank.

Not to finance unless you really have to is very good advise on boats but many folks do and it can really create financial and family problems. Paying on a toy for 10 plus years is generally a bad idea imho. If you can’t own it in 5 years you probably can’t afford it but to each their own on bad financial decisions.

The difference between an $85 rod holder in a box and $125 installed by the builder is not a wise savings nor is sticking on a TTop later that can crack or wobble and not be covered by the warranty. There are plenty of examples out there of people who have things added to the boat after purchase that adversely affects the value, look and reliability of the boat. This is especially true when people are trying to save a buck and don’t have the knowledge, insight or experience that the boat builder has. I can see buying a used boat or even a mass produced new boat without some of what you want and adding it later but if you are getting a semi-custom boat or a boat being built specially for you from the factory it is not a wise move to get it without most of what you want. It’s just asking for problems later.

Sure we we all add our personal touches to our boats but some things are just penny wise and pound foolish.
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It makes me wonder why some boat makers don't seem to understand their customers - cats have HUGE appeal to divers for many reasons, the most important of which is ease of getting into the boat in full dive gear. To be averse to installing or designing a transom door is a huge turn off to most of us.


I went offshore with Dave on his hull#1. I could see 6 divers and 18 tanks running 30K getting 2 mpg making day trips to the Middlegrounds. Running in our 3-4’ Gulf close set chop won’t even slow the day down. Rock solid. Point and run manners without the handling quirks that result in there being lots of used WC’s and GB’s on the used boat market.
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Not to finance unless you really have to is very good advise on boats but many folks do and it can really create financial and family problems. Paying on a toy for 10 plus years is generally a bad idea imho. If you can’t own it in 5 years you probably can’t afford it but to each their own on bad financial decisions.

The difference between an $85 rod holder in a box and $125 installed by the builder is not a wise savings nor is sticking on a TTop later that can crack or wobble and not be covered by the warranty. There are plenty of examples out there of people who have things added to the boat after purchase that adversely affects the value, look and reliability of the boat. This is especially true when people are trying to save a buck and don’t have the knowledge, insight or experience that the boat builder has. I can see buying a used boat or even a mass produced new boat without some of what you want and adding it later but if you are getting a semi-custom boat or a boat being built specially for you from the factory it is not a wise move to get it without most of what you want. It’s just asking for problems later.

Sure we we all add our personal touches to our boats but some things are just penny wise and pound foolish.
I don’t disagree with you, however, not everyone has a FAT wallet that allows them to build out a boat the way they want.
I am building a basic pilothouse and even then I am struggling with keeping it within my budget. Yes, I can finance it or wait but I am choosing to build a basic boat and add to it as my budget allows. Dave will build in all the must have items from the builder. Then I can add in items like electronics, interior/exterior seating later.
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Default Console popped from the mould!






The base has to be scribed and trimmed, then set in bonding putty and glass interior with 4108.
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That's awesome looking! Can't wait to see the finished version!
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My dad and I are going up to check out production and meet Dave today.

I spoke to him on the phone yesterday and was impressed. I already have my "dream cat" but I can't sleep on it... Will be fun to talk.
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So this is the llebroc seat model I am considering.




This is a recap of the color motif the boat will have. Basically gray, black and white.

Hull sides: Medium Gray
Ttop piping black linex
Underside of ttop, medium gray to match hull sides
Acrylic doors, drawers, and inserts will be black
Motors black

So which seat design does everyone prefer? (See next post)
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I think I'm going with black powder coat metal arm brackets. Stitching will be black on either option.

Option 1. Black arms and head.








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Option 2.

Gray arms and head.
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I would not want any part of the seats black, besides maybe some piping, black gets so damn hot!
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I agree with treble that black will be hotter than a frying pan in August.
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I would not want any part of the seats black, besides maybe some piping, black gets so damn hot!
That's a good point. I wasnt sure with the seats. I thought that about the linex piping but it didnt seem any hotter than normal. I also was thinking the seats would be under the ttop for the hottest part of the day. Third, the fabric is new and doesn't feel like normal vinyl.

Does anybody have black in their seats now?

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