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Old 09-28-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigWhit View Post

It's been a month. Any difference with the Glidecoat?
I havnt applied it yet. You can buy direct from them although they made it abundantly clear they really dont like selling to individuals, that they are considering moving to a model like Ceramic Pro where they will only sell to a qualified detailer network. Pick some up now.

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Old 09-28-2018, 03:37 PM
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What does washing with vinegar and simple green do to the ceramic coat?
Acid removes water minerals from the coating surface allowing the product to work as intended.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:24 PM
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Great thread. I'm looking to purchase some ceramic coating to do my boat this spring. One thing i'd like to do is the aluminum on the T-top and hope it gets sealed a bit from the salt.

I'll try and get before and after pics as this seems to be a new technology for paint/other finishes. I know a friend had his professionally done and I'll say it's amazingly awesome.
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Is the prep easier on a new boat that was never waxed or is the process the same for all hulls??
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The prep is definitely much easier for new or newer boats, as there won't be much restoration needed to bring back the shine on the hull. Almost ever boat will require at least one step of buffing to remove minor imperfections and smooth the surface to prep it for coating. Even new boats can require some buffing to remove mold release wax that may be left on the hull. New or newer boats tend to be 20%-25% less to have coated than an older boat
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Is the prep easier on a new boat that was never waxed or is the process the same for all hulls??
prep on a new bait is certainly easier. You still have to take care of any minor blemishes and, even more importantly, wipe the surface down a few times to be CERTAIN there is no wax, release wax, grease, oil, etc in the gelcoat. IGL precoat for me with plenty of clean microfiber towels. Immediately after the wipedown, 2 coats of IGL Marine on EVERYTHING. it goes on the gelcoat including nonskid (itís not slippery), metals, vinyl, everything.
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prep on a new bait is certainly easier. You still have to take care of any minor blemishes and, even more importantly, wipe the surface down a few times to be CERTAIN there is no wax, release wax, grease, oil, etc in the gelcoat. IGL precoat for me with plenty of clean microfiber towels. Immediately after the wipedown, 2 coats of IGL Marine on EVERYTHING. it goes on the gelcoat including nonskid (itís not slippery), metals, vinyl, everything.
thanks...thatís good info
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I was skeptical before i looked at Ceramic Pro's website. Now I'm really skeptical. I'm sure coatings add some protection, but....coatings, sealants, and waxes are a sacrificial layer to protect a surface not a permanent new surface.
Are ceramic coatings better than previous polymers, some probably are. Will they last more than 1 yr in my Florida sun with washing, wear, use? I don't think so. When companies advertise "global coatings leader, nano ceramic, molecular bonding, hydrophobic, formulas for marine, auto, aviation, industrial, glass, and fabric" Then offers "gold, silver, bronze" level protection packages available only from small dealers that paid for a territory....count me out.
I'm pretty sure companies like 3m, Mcguires, Mothers, Starbrite, etc have much higher R&D budgets but you don't see them offering thermo nuclear nano ceramic lifetime coatings. For boats I'm sticking with a good sealant 2x per year.
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I'm pretty sure companies like 3m, Mcguires, Mothers, Starbrite, etc have much higher R&D budgets but you don't see them offering thermo nuclear nano ceramic lifetime coatings. For boats I'm sticking with a good sealant 2x per year.
Hard for me to imagine a company that makes their living selling you a temporary solution to a permanent problem would find much interest in finding you a permanent solution and never being able to sell you anything again.

Iím going on three years and the boat still beads water like it was waxed yesterday. As of today I have broken even on what I paid vs what theee years of waxing would have cost me. Now itís gravy.
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Hard for me to imagine a company that makes their living selling you a temporary solution to a permanent problem would find much interest in finding you a permanent solution and never being able to sell you anything again.

Iím going on three years and the boat still beads water like it was waxed yesterday. As of today I have broken even on what I paid vs what theee years of waxing would have cost me. Now itís gravy.
I disagree. The average ownership cycle of cars and boats is pretty short. How many warranty jobs do you think XXX auto dealership did for that $1200 lifetime super poly seal they sold? None i remember at the dealership i ran prep department for. Mcguires would happily sell you a 1x application lifetime product at a high price point if it could actually work and be backed up. Most of these companies selling will be gone, or re-branded in a few years. Talk to any real pro detailer and will tell you the same thing. Think the high end boats and cars at Miami show, Barrett Jackson get ceramic coatings by their detailers? I'd guess not, i didn't buy into Flex Seal or Sham Wow either and might be missing out. But Oxi Clean is the real deal
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Hard for me to imagine a company that makes their living selling you a temporary solution to a permanent problem would find much interest in finding you a permanent solution and never being able to sell you anything again.

Iím going on three years and the boat still beads water like it was waxed yesterday. As of today I have broken even on what I paid vs what theee years of waxing would have cost me. Now itís gravy.
I'm going to do my boat this spring. Friend of mine did his boat and it's absolutely incredible. The plexiglass looks better, the shine is better and he said it takes 1/2 the time to clean up after fish blood, dirt and rinsing the salt off. The detailer that did his gave him a 3 year warranty.

There was an earlier link to a ceramic coating site on hull truth, it didn't work for me either.
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I disagree. The average ownership cycle of cars and boats is pretty short. How many warranty jobs do you think XXX auto dealership did for that $1200 lifetime super poly seal they sold? None i remember at the dealership i ran prep department for. Mcguires would happily sell you a 1x application lifetime product at a high price point if it could actually work and be backed up. Most of these companies selling will be gone, or re-branded in a few years. Talk to any real pro detailer and will tell you the same thing. Think the high end boats and cars at Miami show, Barrett Jackson get ceramic coatings by their detailers? I'd guess not, i didn't buy into Flex Seal or Sham Wow either and might be missing out. But Oxi Clean is the real deal
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:27 PM
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Any folks have some good before/after pics?
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Here'a a before and after of my project bay boat which is coated in the after vid.





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Awesome job cleaning that boat, more pics, and how long did that take? Looks like you would have had to strip it down and restore from ground up and new everything.
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I've done my second boat with Ceramic Pro Marine and it is on a black hull. The stuff is incredible. My black hull is 10 years old and looks better and deeper than a new one out of the mold. My neighbor got me hooked on the stuff after I sold him my somewhat faded dark blue Everglades 255. He had the same shop do his and 1.5 years later the gelcoat still looks better than new. My wife's M3 had it done just before we bought it and I swear the car never looks like it gets dirty. It also makes washing and drying so quick and easy. Just remember that the results are 100% dependent on how good your detailer is and the prep work before the coatings. The guy I use at Paragon Detailing is a true professional detailer and is a complete perfectionist. He usually has a boat for almost 2 weeks to do the complete job. It's hard to find someone like him and I'm very fortunate to have him around here.
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If I missed it forgive me but what’s the process when it’s done n it’s time to reapply?
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Does anyone know of a reputable company that does boats?
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Originally Posted by FishHound44 View Post
Awesome job cleaning that boat, more pics, and how long did that take? Looks like you would have had to strip it down and restore from ground up and new everything.
Every inch of gelcoat was 3 step wet sanded, compound / polished, IPA wiped and coated. Complete rewire and other improvements. It took me about 4 months to complete.


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