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Old 06-13-2018, 06:24 PM
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See photos of the hoses on my 2018 brand new steiger craft. Sub par?
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:31 PM
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If it exits below the water line (not likely for bilge pump) it does not appear to meet ABYC spec, if above water line it’s OK but could be better. Was it OEM rigged at the factory or by dealer?

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To answer your question.......for sure the ribbed black hose! This hose came on a new boat? Really? Take a trip to your local WM store and compare, you'll see.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:41 PM
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Yes, brand new steiger craft. I believe factory rigged hoses.
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:36 AM
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Those are the super cheapo ones for sure.
Shouldn't be hard to replace with real hoses.
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What about the pump itself. Sahara? they any good??
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:03 AM
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Ribbed hose increases friction and reduces pump output but is more flexible and easier to install in tight places and you can replace with smooth hose if you prefer.

Atwood is reputable marine OEM but integral float or electronic switch is not my favorite since switch and/or pump cannot be serviced/replaced individually. Not a big deal if you have true 3 position bilge pump switch (i.e.on/off/momentary on) since you can monitor bilge and override automatic pump switch if necessary to clear bilge.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:12 AM
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Really frosts me that Steiger would use such cheapo hoses on his supposedly high end boats. I paid a lot of $ for this Boat. Simply inappropriate IMO. Concerns me as to what else he might have scrimped on.
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Originally Posted by LBI View Post
Really frosts me that Steiger would use such cheapo hoses on his supposedly high end boats. I paid a lot of $ for this Boat. Simply inappropriate IMO. Concerns me as to what else he might have scrimped on.
when did steigers become high end boats?
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Yup junk. They crack and break overtime too. I bought new hose online when I replaced all mine. Cheap enough and looks like you have plenty of access. I would just replace it and move on. How’s the wiring looks?
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Why is one bolt cut off to size and the other is not? In the last pic that black wire going through the fiberglass what is that? I would like to see some chaff tube on the wire where it goes through the glass. That hose is as cheap as they come. I would replace with a good quality hose that's reinforced. I would email some pictures to them and see what they say, their boats are not cheap.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:39 AM
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Here in NE generally considered sturdy well made quality higher end boats. Like Parkers. I owned a Parker previously. Thinking Parker higher quality now.
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well with walmart bilge pump and the absolute cheapest- if not dangerous- hoses. You can not say it is a high end boat.

My friend had a Seafox back when they deserved their bad rep and we were drift fishing one day and the bilge kept running. He is kinda clueless about boats, but i started looking.

That exact type hose had cracked and was letting way too much water in to be out there fishing. We high tailed it back to ramp....
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Really frosts me that Steiger would use such cheapo hoses on his supposedly high end boats. I paid a lot of $ for this Boat. Simply inappropriate IMO. Concerns me as to what else he might have scrimped on.

Methinks your "buyer's remorse" doth protest too much. Seems you "believe," but don't really know, if Steiger (which BTW makes a very good boat) actually installed the bilge pump system. The bilge pump, hose and other systems shown in the pictures are not, in fact, "sub par" but are well suited and approved for the applications (https://www.westmarine.com/buy/shiel...09?recordNum=3) and appear to be installed in a workmanlike manner in accordance with standards of the industry. If you don't like the hose replace it with something else.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:07 AM
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It's certainly not the highest quality components, but you might be surprised looking in the bilge of other, so-called "high-end" boats. I don't see anything wrong with the installation, and it's neat and tidy. If that thru-hull is above the waterline, which the hose routing would indicate, I'd run it like it is and not worry about it. I'm pretty sure the Coast Guard doesn't require double clamps on recreational vessels, and the ABYC only requires them on fuel fill hoses and exhaust components. Regardless, I think it's poor practice not to double-clamp everything/anything below the waterline. If you want to get really picky, it looks to me that the zip-tie used to secure the bilge pump wiring was left "un-zipped".
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:32 AM
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I'm with LeakinLena and Commocean. My Steiger is 13 years old with no structural problems. From what I can see, later models have numerous improved characteristics. ABYC standards ensure just about all new boats are very well built. You can replace the hoses if you feel uncomfortable. Overall I think you got a great boat (even the Coast Guard uses them). Congratulations on your purchase.
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Did you talk to Steiger about this, or just immediately put it up on the internet?
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:26 AM
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No need to bash Steiger here... if you want better hoses go to west marine and buy them. This is a small issue. I agree their boats are not cheap, but they are designed to be somewhat rugged. It's a hose, definitely do not let it ruin the enjoyment of a new boat.

What did you buy?
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:53 PM
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I absolutely plan on replacing those hoses & double clamping. My new boat is at my T top/electronics installer. He bought this issue to my attention. I Was simply looking for input whether sub par or not. I never even looked in bilge as I have not had boat in my posession. My installer does work for USCG. He did not like the hoses. Not really big deal. Just seemed odd to me. I guess I expected better quality?
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:22 PM
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Looks like the the ribbed hose in the second photo is the drain for the live well. If that is what it is, then it is a gravity drain, above the water line, & under no pressure. The smaller hose above the ribbed hose looks like the raw water wash down.
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