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Crevalle 26 Open Special Edition Catastrophic Transom Failure.

Old 07-05-2018, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rjs202 View Post


Quit lying through your damn teeth man. The dealer decides on the trailer and sends it to the factory to pick up boat or has it ready at the dealer for delivery of the boat. I have an Amera-trail under mine. And had the option for others FROM THE DEALER.
Thatís funny because after we loaded my boat back on the trailer Nick noticed me looking at the marks that the PVC guide posts made on the side of the hull. He mentioned what the fix was and that he was trying to work with the trailer manafacture to have them use longer PVC pipes.

The trailer is on the Cravelle spec sheet when I ordered my boat so how does that make me a liar.
Could it be that YOUR DEALER wants to sell his customers there trailer rather then going trough the manafacture? Or maybe your given talking points and you really have no idea how each dealer works with Cravelle. I know how MY dealer works with Cravelle because Iím looking at my original order sheet as Iím typing.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillsboro View Post
Obviously, the manufacture did not test run this boat except maybe on the hose. Albeit a simple mistake such as leaving the oil cap off is not end of the world, running it so that the oil empties out half of it can have catastrophic failure written all over it in the future. I am sure that this may void the warranty on that engine if Mercury finds out.. I am sure someone already knows.
As far as the Sea Star plate. They introduce these way in advance for manufactures to use prior to releasing to the general public. There is no way that Sea Star would authorize or state that a 400 could be installed on a bracket that is only for a 350. Maybe only 50 HP, but the engineering needed for the extra 50 HP to be safe is what their engineers do so they provide a safe jack plate for the application.
Personally, I believe that Crevalle has poor management and needs someone with some true experience in engineering, layup, rigging in order to provide a boat that is worth this money.
Didn't you get the memo? Crevalle's President may have advanced Marine Architecture and Engineering degrees from a top University and may have stayed awake long enough graduate at the top of his class. It's like a major award for mind powers. Not sure what they can do now to make the OP whole, except maybe give him his money back and put his 26 on display in the "How not to do Business Museum"

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluewater65 View Post


And how many posted ď you can bet this will be the best built boat Cravelle ever builtĒ
Well I must admit that I did. From what you said it sounds like the hull is solid. A few nuts, washers, etc.. here and there is not uncommon as they are dropped in irretrievable places in assembly and bounce out when the boat is run. The missing oil cap is not expected but does happen and should have been caught by everyone that ran it when checking the oil before operation. This includes you. Unless I missed something, the bracket did not fail and looking at the two models it is hard to believe use of one or the other caused the failure.
Now with that said, your boat should have had extensive sea trails of all systems by the most experienced person they have before it was detailed, filled with fuel and returned to you with all their apologies for your having to go through what you have had to endure. There is no excuse for that not happening!
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:09 AM
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May well have been tested by Crevalle with NO oil cap. So let’s see, we run that 400R with what appears to be at 50% of the recommended oil level. Do you REALLY think Merc will repair that engine under their warranty? Good luck with that. What’s the last part of the engine to receive oil when it’s pumped through that engine? There’s your likely point of failure if there’s little to no lubrication for starters anyway.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:11 AM
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Dont forget the issues he is having now with the electronics.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Badbagger View Post
May well have been tested by Crevalle with NO oil cap. So letís see, we run that 400R with what appears to be at 50% of the recommended oil level. Do you REALLY think Merc will repair that engine under their warranty? Good luck with that. Whatís the last part of the engine to receive oil when itís pumped through that engine? Thereís your likely point of failure if thereís little to no lubrication for starters anyway.
Merc is good for most guys when it comes to warranty issues. But honestly why would they warranty some repairs on this engine with the oil issue being known. Super screw up on the manufacturer for sure. I would demand a separate agreement from Crevalle that they agree to indemnify you for any warranty repairs rejected by way of the oil cap issue.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:23 AM
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Agreed Merc is typically very good. This however is a serious screw up.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gofastsandman View Post
Not even close.
The R is a race engine.
Max hp at 6400-7000
Different pistons, cams, and heads.
Probably good for 10 or more mph top end.
All hell breaks loose at 6400 with the R where the 350 hits the rev limiter at 6500.
The R hits the limiter at 7500
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Sorry gofast, but to the best of my knowledge there are some errors in your explanation. Note, I always enjoy your posts, but want to clarify some things.

The 400R is built on the same line as the 350. They have the same internals, which are based off the internals of the SCI 350 racing platform (that was a 300 disassembled at racing and rebuilt with new internals), this is straight from Mike G at racing.

The difference in the 350 and 400 is in calibration.
The addition of 50hp will not return an increase of 10mph with all other variables remaining static. At best it is 3mph, but mostly an increase of 2mph. The formula Trond taught me was 25hp increase at same x dimension = 1mph.

In all my testing of the 400r I never saw anything close to 7500rpm. Smacked the limiter at 7k and maybe some over-rev but nowhere near 7500 under production 400r calibration from my experience. The 100mph 390 NT was on the limiter at 7k, I was on the boat at 98mph with Trond, Terry, and Raymond.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:19 AM
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Thatís funny because after we loaded my boat back on the trailer Nick noticed me looking at the marks that the PVC guide posts made on the side of the hull. He mentioned what the fix was and that he was trying to work with the trailer manafacture to have them use longer PVC pipes.

The trailer is on the Cravelle spec sheet when I ordered my boat so how does that make me a liar.
Could it be that YOUR DEALER wants to sell his customers there trailer rather then going trough the manafacture? Or maybe your given talking points and you really have no idea how each dealer works with Cravelle. I know how MY dealer works with Cravelle because Iím looking at my original order sheet as Iím typing.
You just said it yourself. How your dealer works. Crevalle doesnít supply the trailers, the dealer decides how the trailers are handled. Sorry your dealer offers a shitty trailer (although it does fit with their customer service), but itís not a Crevalle decision.

And suggesting I am being fed talking points?? Iím thinking this whole process has made you go a little cooky their buddy.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:02 AM
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According to Ameratrail's site, they are the trailer outfitter for leading boat manufacturers . Crevalle is on the list.

Chosen by leading boat manufacturers
https://www.ameratrail.com/
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillsboro View Post
Obviously, the manufacture did not test run this boat except maybe on the hose. Albeit a simple mistake such as leaving the oil cap off is not end of the world, running it so that the oil empties out half of it can have catastrophic failure written all over it in the future. I am sure that this may void the warranty on that engine if Mercury finds out.. I am sure someone already knows.
As far as the Sea Star plate. They introduce these way in advance for manufactures to use prior to releasing to the general public. There is no way that Sea Star would authorize or state that a 400 could be installed on a bracket that is only for a 350. Maybe only 50 HP, but the engineering needed for the extra 50 HP to be safe is what their engineers do so they provide a safe jack plate for the application.
Personally, I believe that Crevalle has poor management and needs someone with some true experience in engineering, layup, rigging in order to provide a boat that is worth this money.
I am sure that is a lot of "I am sures'"
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tunnles View Post
You forget Chinese history goes back 5000 years or possibly longer !.
Just a few streets away from my apartment is BRIDGE that's 2500 years old that they were using HERE!.
Parts of this city I live that is criss crossed with hundreds of canals and buildings dating back to the silk road era 1000 years ago ! This city was world renowned for its silk quality ! and Chinese boat and ship builders were way advanced !
Have you ever ventured past the end of you street ??
The first steps I took into histroric world events was Hiroshima and a few days later Nagasaki and that was pretty significant being in those places !Here I visited Nanjing where the Japanese murder thousands of women children babies and men ! these are true and very significant as they happened close to the time I was born !
I also was almost ready to depart for the MARSHELL islands TO WORK but the plug got pulled at the last minute ! Bikini atoll I wanted to see !
Weren't those the places (Marshall Islands, Bikini Atoll) where us dumb, ignorant Americans tested A-bombs. You know, the first A-bombs that were built and fielded? Did the Chinese have those 1000 years ago, too?
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Badbagger View Post
A better idea yet is to just ignore him and STOP quoting him. I put him on ignore a long time ago.
For those of us not in the know, how DO you place someone on the IGNORE list?
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:22 AM
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What happened with this particular boat is terrible, but not the norm. I also know it has been a huge inconvenience for the owner of the boat. I have owned a 2016 Crevalle 26 for almost 2-1/2 years with absolutely zero problems. I have taken it offshore 20 miles probably 10 times with no complaints. I have been inshore fishing and cruising with my family a lot. I have owned all kinds of boats thru the years including Scout, Grady White, Boston Whaler just to name a few. This has been the best overall boat I have ever bought. I am not a engineer so I have no idea what caused that to happen to that particular boat. I am sure Crevalle is going to do whatever it takes to figure it out. I actually went yesterday and looked my transom over inside and out and not a sign of anything. Looks like the day I bought it. Now I only paid a little over 100,000 for mine but its still a lot of money. The boats are very similar with the exception that mine has a 300 Yamaha and no power poles. It will be interesting to find out what might have caused this failure but people need to be patient. Crazy things happen and that's why you research the problem and keep it from happening again. I would think you would have heard other problems if it was something on all of their boats. Just my two cents. The boat and Crevalle has been great to me.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:23 AM
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Tunnles can you kindly tell grey how to ignore you
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rjs202 View Post


You just said it yourself. How your dealer works. Crevalle doesnít supply the trailers, the dealer decides how the trailers are handled. Sorry your dealer offers a shitty trailer (although it does fit with their customer service), but itís not a Crevalle decision.

And suggesting I am being fed talking points?? Iím thinking this whole process has made you go a little cooky their buddy.
I said nothing of the sort. What part of its on the Crevalle order form do you not comprehend! This is the Crevalle order sheet that has every available option Crevalle offers IF your ordering your boat customized. Do your research before you post something that is a lie. A simple call to Crevalle will set you free.

No I donít want to debate you offline as you invited me to do in your PM. Youíve come on this thread and made these stupid comments with nothing to back them up. What makes you think I have time or the interest to ďdebateĒ anything with someone that has zero knowledge on what has transpired from day one.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:51 AM
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Forgive me everyone for distracting from the shit show here, but did Crevalle ever tell you their theory on the transom failure? Surely they said something about it and what caused it?
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Bluewater, was it Crevalle that reinstalled the engine or was it the dealer that removed it before the boat went back to Crevalle?
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Originally Posted by ono loco View Post
Tunnles can you kindly tell grey how to ignore you
I'm sure he can. But to end the pain faster:

from the main page, select "user cp" in the upper left, then "edit ignore list" on the middle left. It is spelled "tunnels".

I have so many on my ignore list I occasionally hit a streak of 5+ posts in a row from diff ppl that are blocked.
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