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Old 04-21-2018, 08:13 AM
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Hello everyone,
This is my first post but I've been a casual lurker here for the past few months while digging up boat advice.
Basically I need advice on whether a boat is worth restoring. This would be my first boat. All work would be done by myself.

The vessel in question is a 1968 Mako 19. It needs new stringers (and presumably a new transom). The motor is free spinning apparently but lets pretend its junk and not factor it into restoration cost/time.
The seller wants $500 for this boat (but I think I could probably get it for $300). How much is this boat worth as is? Bottom line, is it worth restoring?
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Do it.

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If you want to go offshore, that hull will beat you to death. Find a 21.
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Classic Mako.
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How much money do you have to put into it?

There is a lot of work ahead of you...but it would be a really cool boat if you finished.
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That’d be a sweet little classic boat to run around and fish from!
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How much money do you have to put into it?

There is a lot of work ahead of you...but it would be a really cool boat if you finished.
I'm really looking at it as a learning experience, so I place a lot of value in that. I'm not planning on doing everything at once but I feel like $1500 would be enough for good plywood, epoxy/ resin, fiberglass etc (based on research for supplies on amazon/ hardware stores, etc). Being inexperienced with this I'm not really sure how much it would cost in the long run (excluding a motor).
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The moderate "V" Mako's (17' 19' and 20') make great learning tools for boating, boat construction and boat handling, they require a minimum of systems. They don't need much power to perform well and feature pretty rugged construction despite there flawes. I can't tell you what to do, but understand, in my opinion $1500 won't put that boat back on the water. The saying goes. "Take a realistic esitimate of the coat and x2, take the realistic time for the work, x3" Nothing would make me grin like seeing a classic 19' restored and customized, but you need to be realistic with regards to the time and money. Most other responders will say the guy that currently only this fine vessel sould pay you $300 to take it away. Just be for warned.
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I restored an early 1970ís Mako 19 many years ago, itís a great inshore boat. It will pound if run fast in heavy chop. A 115 hp motor is plenty; this will save you $ in repowering. Itís a great boat to restore, but I donít know what your costs will total. A new motor will likely be your biggest expense. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by cstchristopher View Post
The moderate "V" Mako's (17' 19' and 20') make great learning tools for boating, boat construction and boat handling, they require a minimum of systems. They don't need much power to perform well and feature pretty rugged construction despite there flawes. I can't tell you what to do, but understand, in my opinion $1500 won't put that boat back on the water. The saying goes. "Take a realistic esitimate of the coat and x2, take the realistic time for the work, x3" Nothing would make me grin like seeing a classic 19' restored and customized, but you need to be realistic with regards to the time and money. Most other responders will say the guy that currently only this fine vessel sould pay you $300 to take it away. Just be for warned.
Thank you for your sincere feedback. Considering that you think I should be paid to take away the boat I'll have to re-evaluate what its worth when I show up to look at it. I offered $300 already but if he really wants it gone I might be able to work something cheaper out. I'm in no rush to get a boat on the water. If I go to look at it I'll be sure to take pictures and report back to this thread on the outcome.
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Just some thoughts on a restore. I'm in the process of doing a 23 Seacraft. Not including the cost of boat, trailer and Hermco bracket I'm in it for over $4000.

But, all material is composite, if done in marine ply it would be about 2/3 the cost. Don't really know my final # yet with out power but it's at least 3X what I thought it would be. Listen to the people here that have been down this road.

If you take on the project I wish you all the best.
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:38 AM
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If you have place for it and time do it.
Looks like some of the dirty work already done

​​​​​​​will be way more than 1500, but will be worth it
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I’m nearing the end of my own rebuild of a 20’ Aquasport CCP. My thoughts are only do a rebuild if all of the following statements are true.

1 I'm rebuilding because I want something that can't be found in current production boats.

2 I want the boat to be purpose built with everything where I want it.

3 I will enjoy most of the work of rebuilding and consider it quality recreation. (No one wakes up and says I really want to grind some glass today, but you get my point).

4 you plan on keeping the boat for a long time, and resale value is unimportant.

As for cost, it is possible to do a rebuild and save money. You can use less expensive materials like marine ply and poly resin (both great choices). You can reuse the outboard or repower with a used motor. Use surplus hardware or even reuse some of the original hardware. Be happy with a workboat finish. These things would get you through a rebuild and save some cash.

If you are like me, however, useing epoxy, vinylester and composites; planning on new power and only happy with top-quality components, it will be hard to escape without spending close to the cost of a new or late model boat.
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You need to learn boat investment parts mathematics...
whatever you assume ◊ 2 ( 5 ◊ 5 ) + 10 = reality.

Now time investment calculation.....
Pretty much the same.....as parts investment

Best of luck!!!
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You don't have to spend a fortune to get the boat up and running but a "restore" is going to cost $$.

Don't get carried away.. Poly resin, plywood deck, and fill the stringers/transom with seacast.. should be pretty cheap.

If I were looking at a project I wouldn't be turned off by it.
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you will spend 1500 on hydraulic steering alone
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Originally Posted by gofastsandman View Post
If you want to go offshore, that hull will beat you to death. Find a 21.

I wouldn't go that far offshore in the 21 either, both are nice bay boats
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I wouldn't go that far offshore in the 21 either, both are nice bay boats
The old 21 is a serious offshore pocket boat imho.
She dwarfs the 20.
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Thank you everyone for your boat buying advice! I really appreciate the time everyone took for me. Unfortunately I didn't hear back from the guy so he must not be that motivated to sell. I'll take my project money and buy an old but working boat I guess.
I was looking for a boat to restore technically but I'm sure whatever I get will come with its own future issues.
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Originally Posted by Jabiru View Post
Thank you everyone for your boat buying advice! I really appreciate the time everyone took for me. Unfortunately I didn't hear back from the guy so he must not be that motivated to sell. I'll take my project money and buy an old but working boat I guess.
I was looking for a boat to restore technically but I'm sure whatever I get will come with its own future issues.
Thanks for being cool and honest.
You could easily toss 8k in materials and parts used and you still have a near shore boat.
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