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Old 03-13-2018, 09:01 AM
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Not saying it's your case but many times riggers will pull the entire bundle through at one time. Often wires will wrap around themselves like a Chinese finger puzzle making removal of just one nearly impossible. If there are several branches it can be even tougher. A hardtop pass through is also a tricky spot and usually the tower leg on top must be unbolted (it's separate from the lower leg!) and lifted to gain a place to pull.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:22 AM
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I would stop and call the boat builder, if the wire is original they can help. I found weed wacker wire worked nice for feeding in right spaces
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lmannyr View Post
No, nothing moves. Like if itís melted/stuck to the piping.
it probably is.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:56 AM
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the inside of the pipe work joints are sharp raw edges. the wire is hanging up on these sharp edges making it very difficult to pull.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:28 PM
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Sometimes you just have to try another pipe route as suggested previously, but there may not be inside openings all the way. Than you need to decide whether to choose a exterior routing along the outside of the pipe ( with optional protective hose or split loom ) or add another chase pipe ( with spare pull-cord included) to match the existing tubing.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:39 PM
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Such a simple task turning into a nightmare.

Haven’t given it another shot yet. Maybe tomorrow.
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:05 PM
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Someone may have put to much 4200 or sealer under the foot and it oozed in around the wires.

I found on mine that the hole in the fiberglass wasn't lined up with the hole in the ttop foot,
and had to pull it to re drill.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:23 PM
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Try another tube.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:38 PM
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You can get a cheap bore/inspection camera on auction website for around 20-30 dollars that works through your phone. It has a built in led too. Shove it down and see what's inside. It's small and produces a Wi-Fi signal that your phone picks up.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishman39 View Post
You can get a cheap bore/inspection camera on auction website for around 20-30 dollars that works through your phone. It has a built in led too. Shove it down and see what's inside. It's small and produces a Wi-Fi signal that your phone picks up.

Those arenít very long. Too short to be useful considering 17 feet of piping. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lmannyr View Post
Those arenít very long. Too short to be useful considering 17 feet of piping. Thanks for the suggestion though.
They have them up to 30'. Mine is 15' long.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishman39 View Post
They have them up to 30'. Mine is 15' long.
Oh!!!! Nice. Good to know. Yeah. I may end up trying this. Thanks.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lmannyr View Post
Oh!!!! Nice. Good to know. Yeah. I may end up trying this. Thanks.
YW, I pulling for you. I've been an electrician my whole career and have fought pipes and wires too much. Another trick is to attach some small Jack chain or ceiling fan pull chain to a piece of small string. Shove the chain in first and jiggle it as the weight of the chain pulls it down. The chain will work it's way through and find the hole. Then use the small string to pull a jetline through. Good luck.
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Vacuum cleaner on the orher end and wad of kleenex on a string. Sucks it thru.

Metal pull chain or a small steel nut, use a magnet on the outside to pull the metal on the inside.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
the inside of the pipe work joints are sharp raw edges. the wire is hanging up on these sharp edges making it very difficult to pull.
Thats the biggest problem. On my build I had the tower builder put a thin long grinder inside the tube and soften the razor sharp edges. I have a second station and knew I would be pulling three hydraulic steering hoses in addition to all the wires.
The other big problem is the 90 degree turns. I dont understand why they cant design 45 degree turns off the main vertical tubes.
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I would be careful using string, I string pulled across other wires sometimes cuts into them, cuts like a saw. When I pulled my wire I had to loosen and remove all the bolts that held the hardtop on ( my bolts went thought the center of my tubes) and had to drill pull holes on the top of the tubes so the wire pulled straight then out the top hole, then back into the horizontal tube ,it made all the pulls easy, just have to be careful with the end loop going back in the pull hole on top. Does that make any sense.
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After 32 years building towers and working on others I could probably write a book on this . Many assholes building towers and also electronics guys coming after will not properly de-burr and prepare for future pulling of wire . Personally I go the extra mile as I know I may go back in . After wires and cables are in forget the vacuum method . You will have to select a sacrificial wire to pull back and leave a pull rope in as well .Flood the pipe with a rich mixture of dawn soap and water from the top down and lube up anything new going in with industrial wire lube and dawn . The benefit is you can re- lube with some additional water down the pipe . sometimes you have to remove EVERYTHING from the pipe and start over . Just the way it is . Good luck .
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:23 AM
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Done!!!!

It required allot of force/pushing hard wil hen it would get stuck or stop. Certainly was not an easy task. Pulled a 10ga and and paracord for next time.

Thanks for all the tips and suggestions! All this to get the horn working. Lol.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Towermaster View Post
After 32 years building towers and working on others I could probably write a book on this . Many assholes building towers and also electronics guys coming after will not properly de-burr and prepare for future pulling of wire . Personally I go the extra mile as I know I may go back in . After wires and cables are in forget the vacuum method . You will have to select a sacrificial wire to pull back and leave a pull rope in as well .Flood the pipe with a rich mixture of dawn soap and water from the top down and lube up anything new going in with industrial wire lube and dawn . The benefit is you can re- lube with some additional water down the pipe . sometimes you have to remove EVERYTHING from the pipe and start over . Just the way it is . Good luck .
Make sure to drain any water from the tube in the event of freezing temps (yeah, I know, you Florida guys don't have to think about that too much).
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