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Inflatable PFDs - do they count if you are not wearing?

Old 02-12-2018, 01:31 PM
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They only have to be worn (in order to be "counted") if they are Coast Guard approved as a "type V". Otherwise, they DO NOT have to be worn. Read the tag on the PFD. See the pics for two of mine. I am a recreational vessel, thus, they are approved as type II and do not need to be worn to be counted. I have seen other inflatables approved only as type V for commercial AND recreational. Again, see the tag on your individual PFD for clarification.

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Old 02-12-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2TDave View Post
If I’m reading this correctly it does say that it has to be worn IF it is labeled “Has to be worn to be compliant.”
Can you copy and paste what you read to lead you to believe that please.
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Old 02-12-2018, 01:38 PM
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No in FL
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:19 PM
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Regs changed in the last couple of years. Coast guard does not require them to be worn. But,! They do require them to be used in accordance with the label to be considered legal. So, if the label says must be worn, then they must be worn. If the label does not say must be worn, then the can be sitting in a box and you’ll be legal, albeit stupid if you’re actually out and about under most conditions.

I posted up the regs in another thread last year. Search and you’ll find,
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2TDave View Post
I spoke to a US Coastguard Auxiliary officer yesterday who told me they did not have to be worn. He did advise wearing it of course b
There is a reason he is a Auxiliary officer. He's an idiot. The USCG and your local Game warden and marine patrol will write you a ticket. They don't count if not on per USCG regs.
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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
Regs changed in the last couple of years. Coast guard does not require them to be worn. But,! They do require them to be used in accordance with the label to be considered legal. So, if the label says must be worn, then they must be worn. If the label does not say must be worn, then the can be sitting in a box and you’ll be legal, albeit stupid if you’re actually out and about under most conditions.

I posted up the regs in another thread last year. Search and you’ll find,
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This right here is a page from the current USCG regs. As you can see all the way at the bottom. They must be worn.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
According to the regulations linked, and inflatable can be approved for recreational use as a Type I, II or III in which case it does not need to be worn to be counted.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chad54 View Post
There is a reason he is a Auxiliary officer. He's an idiot. The USCG and your local Game warden and marine patrol will write you a ticket. They don't count if not on per USCG regs.
Is he still an idiot if he is correct?
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Is he still an idiot if he is correct?
You and him can think he is correct if you want too. I did enough arguing with LEO in my younger years. Don't got time for it now. If you want to argue over what class your inflatable is have at it. Its not doing you any good stored away anyhow.
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Originally Posted by chad54 View Post
There is a reason he is a Auxiliary officer. He's an idiot. The USCG and your local Game warden and marine patrol will write you a ticket. They don't count if not on per USCG regs.
Wrong. Per coast guard regs that YOU posted only type V have to be worn. I can not believe how many ways the same rule posted more then once can be interpreted.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:01 PM
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My automatic inflatable vests are USCG Approved Type III (they also make Type II) vests and do not need to be worn to be counted as flotation devices. Period.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:20 AM
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Surely the whole point of an inflatable PFD is that it is comfortable and light enough to wear and will save you from sudden and unexpected immersion (which is the majority of cases) when you won't have time to grab let alone put on a PFD. If you're of a mind that you will have plenty of time to find and, don and adjust your PFD you might as well have a foam PFD.
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by chad54 View Post
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This right here is a page from the current USCG regs. As you can see all the way at the bottom. They must be worn.
Come on man. It says type V must be worn. Type II and III there is no mandate that they must be worn.
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Originally Posted by Stickbo View Post
Wrong. Per coast guard regs that YOU posted only type V have to be worn. I can not believe how many ways the same rule posted more then once can be interpreted.
And that right there is why you might be getting a ticket. Because just like on here the officers all read it differently than you, I and the other people around us. The whole point of these vest are they are more comfortable to wear. Now we got guys wanting to buy them to look cool just not to wear them and argue over whether they need to wear them for them to count or not.
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How many of yall wear these with the co2 tank? I thought about it when offshore but couldn't justify the price tag..

Or are you guys just strictly talking about being in code/law?
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:22 AM
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I have never encountered a Coast Guard Auxiliary who ever was wrong. They know all the rules and are not afraid to tell you so.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:15 AM
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Why would you want your inflatable to be counted as a emergency flotation device. My inflatable is nice to wear when running, drifting, or trolling but in a real emergency event I want a good quality foam filled offshore personal flotation device keeping me afloat not an air filled flotation device.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by chad54 View Post
And that right there is why you might be getting a ticket. Because just like on here the officers all read it differently than you, I and the other people around us. The whole point of these vest are they are more comfortable to wear. Now we got guys wanting to buy them to look cool just not to wear them and argue over whether they need to wear them for them to count or not.


it is not about not wearing them. While at a sandbar anchored and the man shows up you have to show him you have enough life jackets on board for everyone on the boat. Not sure why you are trying to make this something its not, but it sounds like you never take your life jacket off while in a boat, whether it is on a sand bar anchored or tied up to the pier. Also, the rules have been posted, those of that can read and comprehend can see that you are just stating your opinion.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:50 AM
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The rules being changed is news to me.
First thing I'm going to do the next time I'm at the marina....take a look at mine and see what the label says.
I've got a buddy who teaches boating safety classes for the Power Squadron and even he is not aware of these rules. He's under the assumption, just like I was, that the inflatable had to be worn to be counted.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbus View Post
I have never encountered a Coast Guard Auxiliary who ever was wrong. They know all the rules and are not afraid to tell you so.
There was a Coast Guard Auxiliary guy who thought he was wrong once, but he was mistaken.
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