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Old 02-12-2018, 01:58 PM
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First off SH doesnít make the cushions for their boats and they were not the only one who had problems. The company that supplies the cushions to SH has changed the texture and material used on all of their boats. I had a Ď17 Ultra 235 with the new material. Second, I lived down the road from the SF factory. Saw what I needed to see before I bought my Pioneer. I talked with one of the guys who worked at SF and they had one of their boats at the same marina as me. I got a chance to examine the boat and have to say I was neither under or overwhelmed. Just one mans opinion.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:02 PM
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This is about what I figured. I think the SF is probably a fine boat, especially for what they do, but I mentioned resale to him and never missed a beat. He is too enamored by the standard features and soft good design to really branch out. It is his money so whatever. I just wanted to be able to give him the best advise possible.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ytmorris View Post
This is about what I figured. I think the SF is probably a fine boat, especially for what they do, but I mentioned resale to him and never missed a beat. He is too enamored by the standard features and soft good design to really branch out. It is his money so whatever. I just wanted to be able to give him the best advise possible.
You would have to look at what he pays versus the actual resale value on each. I bet on a percentage basis they will be on par.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:09 PM
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Actually the SF at my marina hit the back of my Pioneer at the dock. The guy was paying attention to the tits on board his boat instead of where the hell he was going. He gave me his card, thatís how we met. Damaged the engine cowling and nicked the corner of the stern. I had seen him out a few times and I have to say I like the flair and look of the boat.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:15 PM
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Have a 2014 ultra 22.5 sea hunt. Great creek boat and 10-15 mile inshore boat. Lots of great things about the boat.

A few not so good things too..

The cushion work doesnít last. And yes I clean my boat. I have other boats with much better cushions. They mold faster than any other cushion Iíve ever seen.

The they might as well put a realistic speaker system on it. The infinity head unit is awful and the jbl speakers are worse junk.

I would prefer it to be a little heavier. But thatís not what sea hunt is itís and not there fault. Its so light it will beat you at times.

But when sheís clean she looks great, she does party well and pull the kids skiing well and is easy to trailer.

The marine industry should ban those stupid springs latches which it has. Go ahead and breath heavy and have one of those bitches fall on you a few times.

Oh yea powder coats look awesome but rod butts crack and flake it. Stay w aluminum if you can.

Sounds like Iím dogging it. Iím not just pointing out the flaws like all boats have.

PS no matter what you do DO NOT get a dark colored Hull.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Fit and finish is a bit vague. What on your Sea Hunt is finished better than on a comparable Sea Fox? What didn't fit on the Sea Fox you looked at, and what year Sea Fox are you comparing your Sea Hunt to?

If you are finding 1-3 year old Sea Hunts for 50% less than sticker you are dealing with idiot sellers and accomplishing things few can. I have a bud who has sold his last two Sea Hunts for more than he paid for them new.
I do not have a sea hunt... read my signature. I only buy well kept lightly used Grady Whites (on #5) and my bank account at resale has thanked me for it. My brother in law has a brand new Gamefish 25 sea hunt and it rides phenomenally and he got a good deal on it new and can break even today if he sold it 8 months later. I am a contractor not a boat dealer and am simply offering my opinion on the matter. Most people I know hear sea fox and automatically associate bad quality and poor resale. Is it fair?

Maybe not but perception is most people’s reality. My business partner had the best times of his life on an 18’ sea fox flats boat. I had an 18’ hewes at the moment that I couldn’t really care less about and guess who’s boat got more love from the crowd. Guess who recovered more money when we sold them? Just pointing out the obvious reason the OP asked the question. Sea Foxes may be up and coming now but they have a long way before they shake their old reputation. Can anyone say bayliner?

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Old 02-12-2018, 07:53 PM
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I found one floating upside down on the Bahama bank. If you buy one check all the thru hull fittings and hoses.
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:55 AM
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.....overhead compartments up on the hard top, has that big hatch at the transom with a lot of room to work in the bilge.
Sounds like the '96 Proline I recently sold Non suck bilge access should be SOP rather than a selling point but most buyers are uninformed and don't see past the shine, fluffy cushions and "easy" finance terms.

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You would have to look at what he pays versus the actual resale value on each. I bet on a percentage basis they will be on par.
Thank you, the better resale proponents tend to ignore cost of entry and for most the increased cost of interest and insurance they paid over time to have "better resale." Depreciate a 100K Seafox by 50% over 5 years and a 140K brand X by 30% over the same 5 years and the Seafox is still a better deal after paying interest/insurance.

Curb appeal sells used boats - when a prospective buyer walks up and says "wow no way this is an '04" you are 3/4 of the way to a deal and when inspection, sea trial, review of maintenance records etc reveal a well cared for and properly performing rig you can command a premium price. The vast majority of buyers are looking for clean and turn key - a trashed out boat is a trashed out boat even if it says Yellowfin on the side.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:22 PM
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I donít get the Sea Hunt cult. They absolutely are insanely good on resale the last 5 years, but so is any boat due to the incredible inflation in the industry. Sea Huntís Ultraís and Tritonís are horrible riding boats. I did fish on a 25 Gamefish last year, and was pleasantly surprised by the ride, but Sea Hunt is still an entry level, over-rated brand.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ryansdadbme View Post
I donít get the Sea Hunt cult. They absolutely are insanely good on resale the last 5 years, but so is any boat due to the incredible inflation in the industry. Sea Huntís Ultraís and Tritonís are horrible riding boats. I did fish on a 25 Gamefish last year, and was pleasantly surprised by the ride, but Sea Hunt is still an entry level, over-rated brand.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ryansdadbme View Post
I don’t get the Sea Hunt cult. They absolutely are insanely good on resale the last 5 years, but so is any boat due to the incredible inflation in the industry. Sea Hunt’s Ultra’s and Triton’s are horrible riding boats. I did fish on a 25 Gamefish last year, and was pleasantly surprised by the ride, but Sea Hunt is still an entry level, over-rated brand.
Absolutely

Several years back my best friend went out a few times on a neighbors 21 SH and he always bitched about the ride but loved the old 21 Chris Craft I owned then.

All of the cookie cutter 2 pc mass produced hulls are "good" boats, but nothing to be passionate about.

EDIT: Hydrasports are a little different critter amongst the 2 pc hulls
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
Absolutely


All of the cookie cutter 2 pc mass produced hulls are "good" boats, but nothing to be passionate about.
Bullshit. You must now be part of the official THT braintrust.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:12 PM
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SF makes a nice boat. It sure is very blingy on the inside. Almost to much crap.

quality is inline with most mid tier boats. You can nit pick most any of these value boats.

The resale is what gets you on the back end. The past has really put a hurt on the resale.

If you get a really good deal at the start you might end up ok.

But for sure will be harder to sell versus the other well known brands.
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:41 AM
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Bullshit. You must now be part of the official THT braintrust.
Actually sir I am the antichrist of the braintrust, having refused any and all koolaide.

My wife has a bit of an eye for Yellowfins - cant deny the attraction of that sheer line - and I may some day let her talk me into one but aside from that my "next boat" will remain being the cleanest/best cared for example that fits the moments needs/wants/budget. I've owned Chris Craft, Proline, Mako and currently a Seapro - all did me right but none were Alburys or Intrepids. I am fairly outspoken that new Grady Whites or BW represent the least value for dollar you can get but if the right used example came along at the right price I wouldn't hesitate - or think that I had a more capable/better rig than a comparable Seafox. And I would much rather have the right 20 year old 31 Fountain than any of the current 2 pc 30somethings.

Brand fanatics of any 2 pc mass produced boat universally have nothing objective to substantiate their position. They can all be good boats but it's a different check to write to get a GREAT boat.
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Actually sir I am the antichrist of the braintrust, having refused any and all koolaide.

My wife has a bit of an eye for Yellowfins - cant deny the attraction of that sheer line - and I may some day let her talk me into one but aside from that my "next boat" will remain being the cleanest/best cared for example that fits the moments needs/wants/budget. I've owned Chris Craft, Proline, Mako and currently a Seapro - all did me right but none were Alburys or Intrepids. I am fairly outspoken that new Grady Whites or BW represent the least value for dollar you can get but if the right used example came along at the right price I wouldn't hesitate - or think that I had a more capable/better rig than a comparable Seafox. And I would much rather have the right 20 year old 31 Fountain than any of the current 2 pc 30somethings.

Brand fanatics of any 2 pc mass produced boat universally have nothing objective to substantiate their position. They can all be good boats but it's a different check to write to get a GREAT boat.
Itís kinda funny in a strange way that you or anyone can state emphatically whether or not someone can be passionate about their boat. I mean come on man. I think I see some kool-aid dripping from your chin. BTW, I own a 2018 GW and I am damn proud of her. But I guess if I said I own a fountain youíd be my best friend.
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Being proud of something you worked to obtain is 10,000% fine and completely normal....with some part of me saying being proud of material possession's is kinda silly.

Jumping up and down on THT about how great brand X is with only personal bias and subjective reasoning makes you just another brand cheerleader.

And everyone knows Fountains are magnitudes cooler than Gradys
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ours has been great. 0 issues. cross shopped the TW & SH but didn't like the transom seating. SH and sportsman are all nice but considerable more money and didn't see the value of the price jump. Check out all of them / sea trial. We mainly cruise 75% of the time and runs well in the Chesapeake bay.

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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
Being proud of something you worked to obtain is 10,000% fine and completely normal....with some part of me saying being proud of material possession's is kinda silly.

Jumping up and down on THT about how great brand X is with only personal bias and subjective reasoning makes you just another brand cheerleader.

And everyone knows Fountains are magnitudes cooler than Gradys
Go look at my posts Einstein. I don't push the brand I have on other people. I think this meaning of "proud" applies to you:
having or showing a high or excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importance.
IMO you sure as hell can be proud of material things.

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Absolutely

Several years back my best friend went out a few times on a neighbors 21 SH and he always bitched about the ride but loved the old 21 Chris Craft I owned then.

All of the cookie cutter 2 pc mass produced hulls are "good" boats, but nothing to be passionate about.

EDIT: Hydrasports are a little different critter amongst the 2 pc hulls
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Bullshit. You must now be part of the official THT braintrust.
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Actually sir I am the antichrist of the braintrust, having refused any and all koolaide.

My wife has a bit of an eye for Yellowfins - cant deny the attraction of that sheer line - and I may some day let her talk me into one but aside from that my "next boat" will remain being the cleanest/best cared for example that fits the moments needs/wants/budget. I've owned Chris Craft, Proline, Mako and currently a Seapro - all did me right but none were Alburys or Intrepids. I am fairly outspoken that new Grady Whites or BW represent the least value for dollar you can get but if the right used example came along at the right price I wouldn't hesitate - or think that I had a more capable/better rig than a comparable Seafox. And I would much rather have the right 20 year old 31 Fountain than any of the current 2 pc 30somethings.

Brand fanatics of any 2 pc mass produced boat universally have nothing objective to substantiate their position. They can all be good boats but it's a different check to write to get a GREAT boat.
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Itís kinda funny in a strange way that you or anyone can state emphatically whether or not someone can be passionate about their boat. I mean come on man. I think I see some kool-aid dripping from your chin. BTW, I own a 2018 GW and I am damn proud of her. But I guess if I said I own a fountain youíd be my best friend.
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Being proud of something you worked to obtain is 10,000% fine and completely normal....with some part of me saying being proud of material possession's is kinda silly.

Jumping up and down on THT about how great brand X is with only personal bias and subjective reasoning makes you just another brand cheerleader.

And everyone knows Fountains are magnitudes cooler than Gradys
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Go look at my posts Einstein. I don't push the brand I have on other people. I think this meaning of "proud" applies to you:

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Old 02-14-2018, 10:42 AM
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Hey HTJ started it.

But since it's a 2 pc hull not sure why he's here.
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