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Old 02-04-2018, 09:53 PM
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I have been on here before and had really good feedback. I will be buying my new boat this week. I have been to the Houston Boat Show and the Dallas Boat Show. I have my 3 boats narrowed to these three. Blue Wave 2200 Pure Bay, Nautic Star 215 XTS, and Skeeter 210 XS... After going to the shows I have figured the Blue Wave to be about 8k higher than the Nautic Star and 5k higher than the Skeeter. I am going from a 19 foot bass boat to the Bay boat. I will be fishing for bass in freshwater 70% of the time and the other 30% taking wife and kids to tube and etc.... I am concerned about the quality and the ability to take on rough water vs my bass boat. Knowing the pricing difference can you tell me what would be best?? The skeeter and Nautic Star fit the budget much better but getting on the Hull Truth you get a lot of bashing of the other boats. Please let me know the best quality and based off these price differences which one you would choose. I will take it to the bay 2-3 times a year. Thanks
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NS is cheapest quality wise.

The BW is pretty light but well made.

The Skeeter is pretty equal to the BW quality wise. Should be a little heavier.

I don't really like the looks of the BW or Skeeter. To bass fishy looking for me.

Either one would serve you well.

Get a 150 min.
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Originally Posted by captain28570 View Post
...the BW or Skeeter. To bass fishy looking for me...

Get a 150 min.
THATS why you WANT one!

As I've told you, the comparison of ANY of your choices of bay boats will make ANY bass boat seem a joke by comparison with respects to rough water performance and capability! The NS you are looking at is only a 98" beam, it's not as tall or wide (spelled ROOM, roughwater capability and stability) as the 2200 PureBay.

The Skeeter is fine boat but it's a pad boat, essentially a large bassboat with a bayboat topcap put in it. It wont have the ride of the BlueWave but it will certainly outride and perform in rough water better than ANY bassboat in existence.

MAX the power, I know you are trying to save money but TRUST ME you'll thank me later. A 21-22ft bayboat is considerably larger and heavier than any bassboat you are accustomed to. A 150 will be a PIG on one of them! 200 is the MINIMUM I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND to you...
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Default 22 BW only weighs 1700 Dry. Very light boat.

This is a 200 on a 22 BW. A 150 is only 3 mph slower. So over 30 mph's at 4000 and 53 WOT. That's not a pig. That's moving plenty fast.

150 is more than plenty on a 22 BW.

1000 4.7 0.8 5.88
1500 6.5 1.4 4.64
2000 7.8 2.7 2.89
2500 9.9 4.1 2.42
3000 26.4 4.5 5.87
3500 33.2 5.7 5.83
4000 38.6 7.8 4.95
4500 43.4 9.5 4.57
5000 48.8 13.1 3.73
5500 54.1 17.2 3.15
5900 56.4 18.6 3.03
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Default 150 on the Skeeter

The 150 is adequate. Wont be a speed demon but 30 mph at 4000 and WOT over 45 is plenty enough motor.


1000 4.5 0.8 5.63
1500 6.1 1.3 4.69
2000 7.5 2.1 3.57
2500 10.9 3.6 3.03
3000 20.2 4.2 4.81
3500 26.3 5.6 4.7
4000 32.1 7.2 4.46
4500 36.9 9.1 4.06
5000 41.7 11.2 3.72
5500 46.4 14.7 3.16
5950 48.8 16.1 3.03
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Originally Posted by HatchieLuvr View Post
THATS why you WANT one!

As I've told you, the comparison of ANY of your choices of bay boats will make ANY bass boat seem a joke by comparison with respects to rough water performance and capability! The NS you are looking at is only a 98" beam, it's not as tall or wide (spelled ROOM, roughwater capability and stability) as the 2200 PureBay.

The Skeeter is fine boat but it's a pad boat, essentially a large bassboat with a bayboat topcap put in it. It wont have the ride of the BlueWave but it will certainly outride and perform in rough water better than ANY bassboat in existence.

MAX the power, I know you are trying to save money but TRUST ME you'll thank me later. A 21-22ft bayboat is considerably larger and heavier than any bassboat you are accustomed to. A 150 will be a PIG on one of them! 200 is the MINIMUM I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND to you...
Explain to him how beam translates into better rough water capability.
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The Skeeter SX210 probably gets my nod out of those three. The boat comes as a fully equipped package, just add gas and go fishing.

The Blue Wave 2200 Pure Bay is an excellent boat and can be custom ordered with a lot of different options but it is a markedly more expensive boat, as you have seen.

If you're willing to spend the price of the Blue Wave, you might consider the Skeeter SX2250, which is a substantially bigger hull that will have superior rough water capacity at the expense of a few inches of draft over the others. Rig this one with a F200 and go easy on the options and you can be in for mid-upper $40s.

You want to shop at LMC in Houston for the Skeeter.

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Thanks guys. The skeeter has been the boat that gives me the best deal. However, I am a little worried about it being a pad boat. Is this something that I should be worried about??? Also, is it worth paying an extra 5k to just get the blue wave??
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You really need to go demo a boat or two before you make up your mind. The ride may not be as much of an improvement over your bass boat as you are expecting. Although for the short interval chop you'll likely experience the extra length will likely make a difference. Do not worry about the skeeter having a pad. Other factors will play a larger role in the ride. The pad alone won't make a big difference in the ride.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Explain to him how beam translates into better rough water capability.
Two of the hulls he has chosen aren't exactly an "apples to apples" comparison. The 98" Nautic Star and the 102" BlueWave are quite a bit different in OVERALL size. With respect to beam, all other things being equal, it (beam) of and by itself doesn't necessarily influence roughwater ride as much as keel length, deadrise, pad vs vee etc... But what beam does add is perceived/felt/"seat of the pants" feel with regards to stability and less pitch and roll & the added security of a wider boat (simply spelled MORE boat!). Casey is buying this boat for primarily freshwater bass fishing and family time with his wife and kids, including towing the kids on inflatables. Salt will be it's least use but considerable on the bays he frequents. Momma will notice a better ride in the larger hull and the extra space (aided by beam) will become a WELCOMED addition as the family gets larger and if they are like mine, they bring more crap with them each day and that grows annually!

Casey hasn't been in a bay boat, especially considering he's looking at 21-22ftrs. His only point of reference are bassboats. I told him that NO bassboat made will remotely even approach the roughwater capability and ride of ANY of the bayboats he's looking at. Not even in the same ballpark! I owned the finest riding bassboat built, the Allison XB-21 2+2 for a decade. As great as that boat is in roughwater, there's simply NO comparison to any of the much larger 22', deeper & wider bayboats. (I went from my 21 A-boat to my 24 BlueWave. Like comparing the ride of a Ferrari to a large SUV limousine!) He's going to be ASTOUNDED at the difference during his first spring fishing trip on Sam Rayburn!
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Ok. Here’s the deal. The Blue Wave 2200 PB is what I want with a 200 Yamaha V6. Does anyone know where I can get one for 50k. The boat has cyclones seat, 80 pound trolling motor with I pilot and 9 inch screen. I am getting priced at 57k....Please let me know if you know where I should go..Thanks
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No one on here is going to be able to answer that if you're talking about new boats. All you can do is start calling dealers from as far away as you're willing to drive and then the whole "only by local" crowd here starts on you. A dealer reading this isn't going to answer you on a forum and a guy that bought the same boat yesterday can't guarantee you could get that deal tomorrow, too many variables
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Originally Posted by caseyneil12@yahoo.com View Post
Ok. Here’s the deal. The Blue Wave 2200 PB is what I want with a 200 Yamaha V6. Does anyone know where I can get one for 50k. The boat has cyclones seat, 80 pound trolling motor with I pilot and 9 inch screen. I am getting priced at 57k....Please let me know if you know where I should go..Thanks
Hold on... Yamaha 200 is a 4 cylinder, not a v6. Secondly, you want a fully loaded boat for a base boat price, generally that isn't realistic. And finally, going to the edges of the earth to save a couple grand is not worth the dollars vs headache. Your local bluewave dealer will absolutely service you and do your warranty work, but you will be the back of the line. If forced to choose between your boat or a customer who bought a blue wave from him on his service/repair schedule, for the sake of business, he will choose the local guy who chose him to buy from. Fostering a relationship with your local dealer is always the wiser move. I have seen this from Sea Hunt dealers, to Sea Ray dealers.

In addition, I also give the nod to the Skeeter. I feel it is a little better established, has an impressive tournament and pro following, and will likely see a carry over in terms of better resale.
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My vote is for the Skeeter. This is a solid boat, with plenty of guides, whose livelihood depends on their boat, running Skeeters.
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Yamaha does make a SHO 200 which is a 4.2 L V6. Maybe that’s the V6 he talking about.
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That V6 200 engine is a waste on the 2200 Pure Bay. Either a 200 4-cylinder or a V6 250 is the way to go.

You can get a 2400 Pure Bay with a 250 for $57K so I can't imagine what dealer is quoting you that for a 2200.

Here's a leftover 2200 with a Suzuki 250 asking $46K: http://www.getrmp.com/inventory/22-blue-wave

Here's a leftover 2400 with a Yamaha 250 asking $58K: https://www.southernfishingboats.com...=xAllInventory
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Originally Posted by caseyneil12@yahoo.com View Post
Ok. Here’s the deal. The Blue Wave 2200 PB is what I want with a 200 Yamaha V6. Does anyone know where I can get one for 50k. The boat has cyclones seat, 80 pound trolling motor with I pilot and 9 inch screen. I am getting priced at 57k....Please let me know if you know where I should go..Thanks
You can beat that price handily. You'll just have to call around.
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i fish in Venice, La every year and i'm always amazed at how many Skeeter bay boats that are being used by the guides there. maybe they all got a screaming deal, but there's quite a few of them. that being said, BW is a pretty good hull too.
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Here's a leftover 2200 with a Suzuki 250 asking $46K: http://www.getrmp.com/inventory/22-blue-wave

that seems like a deal with the engine upgrade- no questions on that being underpowered....

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