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Old 12-30-2017, 08:55 PM
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I am trying to figure out a good first boat in the 35 to 40 range - to date have mostly fished CC and outboard expresses

Uses: fishing with kids and probably a good amount alone, a little weekend cruising with the kids and Admiral

Boat type: express - there is a part of me that recognizes a CC would be easier to get out on to the water...but given the wider range of conditions, and out of elements features, plus ability to short overnight, I am looking for an express - prefer express to flybridge for being able to dock solo and help in cockpit as needed...can't run down ladders fast enough!

Outboard v. Inboard (diesel) - my preference is inboard for fishability - 2 engine for redundancy

Price - would like to stay under 200K, but i recognize that some of the boats on the following list are above that depending on the year

Year - 2000 or newer

Buying philosophy - value shopper; do not want to buy new and pay that premium; care less about the actual dollars spent (within reason) if it represents a good value for what it is - resale down the road would be a plus and I hope that many of these boats have a lot of the depreciation out of them:


Scopinich 35
Henriques 35
Carolina Classic 35'
Bertram 35
Jersey Cape Yachts – Devil 36
Ocean Billfish 37
Tiara 38 open

I am sure there are some i missed...

I welcome any thoughts ... and in particular threshold type questions - so for example, if one of these was only a single diesel and I didn't realize that, it would knock it out

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Don't overlook the Luhrs 32, 36 and 40 Open layouts, The bashing that goes on is usually by people that have never owned one themselves. I talked to alot of current Luhrs owners before buying and I found most of them loved their boats. I did get some owner feedback about the 41 that was not so good though. You should be able to find a boat with low hours and really good condition. I just recently bought a 40 with 1400 hours on Yanmars well within your budget.
The others on your list are nice boats, it will be hard to find resonable hours within your budget on some of them though.
good luck and welcome to the forum
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Love my Tiara
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Id suggest at least getting onboard a couple boats designed ground up for outboards. Done right, the extra space might be worth the other trade-offs to you. Its a lot of extra room to design around. Im not a huge Grady fan but was really impressed with their 33 when I ran one a couple times. Its a big, comfortable boat.
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Love my Tiara as well.
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Tiara here as well. 3500 open w Cummins diesels. Fishes as a much larger boat.

Mine is. 98 but could be had for half of your budget. Pm if interested.
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One vote for a 38Out Island...

38 Tiara/Pursuit is a lot of boat for the money too.
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Watching this one with interest. I am getting ready to sell my 40' Luhrs and will be looking for an express in the 35' to 40' range.
I am tired of being by myself up top while fishing and having to bark orders from the bridge. I am a low key guy and feel like an ass having to direct loudly from up there. Also I want to be involved in the rigging and running lines.
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I have always loved the CC 35. There is a beautiful one for sale here that I lust over. All of the boats on your list are great though. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by bucksh0t View Post
Don't overlook the Luhrs 32, 36 and 40 Open layouts, The bashing that goes on is usually by people that have never owned one themselves. I talked to alot of current Luhrs owners before buying and I found most of them loved their boats. I did get some owner feedback about the 41 that was not so good though. You should be able to find a boat with low hours and really good condition. I just recently bought a 40 with 1400 hours on Yanmars well within your budget.
The others on your list are nice boats, it will be hard to find resonable hours within your budget on some of them though.
good luck and welcome to the forum
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Thanks Bucksh0t - I will confess that in doing research the Luhrs don't fare well - the sense others give is it is not of the same quality - I am not saying that is so...just the image others project about the boat - i will take a harder look based on your comments - one thing is for sure...they are among the lowest priced boats out there on a similar year/hour basis
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Originally Posted by greylion View Post
Love my Tiara
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I have had a 32’ Luhrs for 11 years and loved be it, put over 2000 hours on it. Also, Tiara sorry do like it’s right up your alley
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If you start to consider outboards you can’t go wrong with Pursuit Offshore. Great boats that keep value and would meet all your needs
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Originally Posted by Texas 17 View Post
Id suggest at least getting onboard a couple boats designed ground up for outboards. Done right, the extra space might be worth the other trade-offs to you. Its a lot of extra room to design around. Im not a huge Grady fan but was really impressed with their 33 when I ran one a couple times. Its a big, comfortable boat.
T17 - if i were to get an outboard boat, it would be a grady - if a CC also a Grady for that matter - they have more of a compromise toward family than other hard core fishing CC's (like a contender) - so i am a big fan - i also get moving the engines off the back frees up space within the hull envelope - but i don't like the idea of the entire back of the boat not being fishable up close....
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Originally Posted by dzaslow View Post
If you start to consider outboards you cant go wrong with Pursuit Offshore. Great boats that keep value and would meet all your needs
Thanks dzaslow...i think i am focused on inboards for the moment...but good to know
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Originally Posted by Steiger23 View Post
One vote for a 38Out Island...

38 Tiara/Pursuit is a lot of boat for the money too.
thanks Steiger 23
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Originally Posted by dpdash View Post
I have had a 32 Luhrs for 11 years and loved be it, put over 2000 hours on it. Also, Tiara sorry do like its right up your alley
Thanks dpdash -
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Hi Guys - I appreciate folks saying what they think would be good

it really would be helpful if you would say why - if it is the boat you have, why did you buy it? - what else did you look at? - what features did the XYZ have that the ABC didn't that convinced you? - or was it price or resale - it is the why that i am really looking for

thanks!

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